Sorry, I meant HDCP stripper with HDMI output. Everyone knows about the HDFury already.
Has anyone heard of the HD80E capture card : Which records from hdmi to a expresscard (and apparently has no problems with PS3 HDCP) Here is their home site .
This would be great for streams that use a windows laptop with a expresscard slot(like me :D). Also what I found interesting about this is that it appears to not be limited to working with the software that came with it unlike the HDPVR1212. In this video the guy uses VHcapture to record this test MGS4 footage. It seems that the quality isnt jawdropping only because his laptop isnt that great and the encoded bitrate isnt very high. If i had a extra $200 I would give this a try since the there is still a meager number of laptops that the Blackmagic Intensity Shuttle work with.
I haven’t heard of it. But it looks interesting. The Matrox Mini has the expresscard option as well. And allows for using Adobe CS for capture and edit. But if this handles the HDCP then I’d be interested to see how well it works.
Really impressive I guess it load the CPU so much, the deal with the HDPVR hauppauge working only with their software is it transcode on the fly on h264, i bet that HDMI capture card dosen’t, is quite cheap too on ebay france (for europe almost) if it load directly into xSplit Broadcaster (i ask to the guy on YT) i thinking about give a shoot too 
I’ve had the AverTV HD DVR for a couple of days now and done a lot of stream tests with it. So far I am very, very, satisfied with this set up right now, in particular it’s ability to bypass HDCP using the version 22 drivers. Basically it does more than its advertised to do and is stable and is the cheapest solution compared to the Hauppauge and Blackmagic cards. Not much else I can ask for.
I don’t miss having HDMI out on the card because I want to split the signal direct from the console anyways.
Edit: if you are planning on using a desktop streaming solution I suggest you pick up one of these ASAP because I think AverTV is coming out with a new model soon which will not support the HDCP bypass trick anymore.
Would this laptop be recommended for streaming and recording with a Hauppauge HD PVR?
http://www.frys.com/product/6671104
I’m not looking to do anything professional just some decent and hassle less streaming and recording.
The hardware specs on that laptop are solid, though it is an HP so bear in mind that it will be loaded with bloatware. Make sure to uninstall as much of it as possible as those background programs may give you trouble.
wasn’t too convinced with the HP laptop so got this one http://www.frys.com/product/6716635
So now I have my Hauppauge HDPVR, a decent laptop, and Flash Media Encoder. Is this all I need? I see some people are using Xsplit and Wirecast, should I get one them? I kida wanna start just basic but I do want player names on the video.
Just use Xsplit first. I think you’ll find you’ll discover what you like and don’t like about your setup after you actually start using it and then make your decisions from there.
So, I’m looking to get into this stuff in the not too distant future. What’s the most cost-effective streaming hardware I can get that fits the following needs. Assume that I already have all the converters and cables I need (and I probably do).
- accepts HDMI and Component (or accepts only one of them but can be used in tandem with converters for the other format)
- accepts 1080p video input @ 60fps (doesn’t necessarily have to be able to record/stream at that resolution, but that would be a plus)
- allows for text overlays such as player names and other labels during record/stream (Do hardware encoders prevent this?)
- is external and easily portable between different PCs (not essential, but would be a big plus and I’d be willing to spend a little more for that convenience)
My current PCs specs are listed below. Let me know if anything looks like a bottleneck that needs to be upgraded:
- OS: Windows XP 32-bit (yeah, I know; don’t feel like upgrading until I finally run into something that warrants it though)
- CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo 6300 @ 1.86 GHz
- RAM: 3.5 GB DDR2 (cannot be increased further without upgrading to a 64-bit operating system)
- GPU: ATI All-in-Wonder 2006 PCI-E, 256 MB RAM (fairly old card, but is capture hardware more CPU-dependent than GPU-dependent anyway?)
- HDD: two IDE drives (80GB, 300GB) and one SATA drive (200GB); Windows partition is on the 80GB. I don’t recall the drive speeds off the top of my head.
One of my main concerns is HDCP protection and how to get around it for HDMI set-ups. I have a 360 and would expect to be using that primarily, and I don’t think it encrypts with HDCP (right?) but I would like to cover all my bases.
Sorry 645, but that processor wont get you very far in terms of recording or streaming HD content
So, other than using an audio mixer to plug my xbox’s audio straight into my computer, is there another way to get the audio coming from my HD PVR onto my Wirecast stream? And FunkyP… You said something about not using Wirecast to stream? Just use FME? What do you mean by this? How would I stream with FME but still get the WC overlays?
Also, as far as getting the audio to work, I’m on Windows 7, so I don’t have stereo mix. Also, I’ve been trying to use virtual audio cable, but anytime I use audio repeater KS, it crashes my computer after selecting my computer speaker as the input…
Figured that might be the case, but that’s why I’m asking. Since I’ve got a steady job now I’m just looking into this kind of stuff for the first time. And since it looks like that particular processor’s socket is outdated entirely, that’s making me lean toward buying a brand new system, preferably a laptop since I don’t already have one at all. What kind of specs do you recommend? I don’t have a particularly tight budget or anything, though I would like to get my money’s worth out of it. And my only requirement is that it be a Windows machine.
645: You’ll be able to stream using FME. However, you won’t be able to multitask (interact with the members). If you’re planning to invest money into your current computer, don’t. Make your own computer and see which graphic card is good. Processor, RAM, etc.
Solid: I don’t know if you have the full version of Wirecast. When you load Wirecast. Go to Window > Audio Inspector > Start Demo. You’ll see “Live Input” and find your PVR Audio Device. Enable it and see if you’re getting a meter. You might get a water mark. Save it and reload Wirecast. This will remove the watermark and your audio should be there.
Thanks for the info guys, I’ll test things out this week.
When looking for a new laptop make sure the processor is an new intel sandy bridge i5 or i7, so something like a i5-2XXX(k) for what ever desktop or mobile model.
If you have the money make sure you have get the QM model , which is the denotes a Quad Core for the 2nd getn i7 line (Sandy Bridge)
You won’t be seeing 1080p60 video input at the consumer level electronics for a while, I’ve found a few cards that do it, but you’re talking about 1k for a capture card, and having to do quite a bit to get that setup working. While I’m with you, and I’d like to record 1080p, most games today run at 720p. It just doesn’t make financial sense for anyone to buy these ultra expensive PCIe 4x capture cards that are designed for high end medical equipment into their computers.
Your computer is well outside the class for 720p capture. I barely got the job done with a Core 2 Duo at 2.16, and a laptop Core 2 Mobile at 2.0 with a specialty motherboard. I was able to keep up due to use of low CPU utilization capture codecs like Lagarith, silly amounts of process killage, a fast RAID0, and the use of a second and third computer to manage the stream channel. The less powerful the hardware you use, the more people will need to be involved to keep up with what you’re doing. When I was working with the Core 2 Mobile based system for streaming, I was literally spending my entire stream session managing the hardware, trying to keep the hardware from going under in the process (Although that computer was pretty crap. I won’t lie.)
Now I have a Core i7 2600k with 16gb of ram, a NotFuckingAround Computer, and I literally set and forget the whole mess. It does all the work and I just don’t care because it works and I don’t need to babysit. I still use my laptop to manage the channel, but that’s more convenience than it is need.
Now that I’ve shown my hand, I’m going to point out a few things:
To do 360p H.264 streaming at 60fps, you’re looking at 2.16ghz as a bare minimum on 64 bit windows, and you will probably barely make it. You’re a couple mhz, and 32 bits of Operating system short there.
Your GPU will probably do exactly 0 video playback acceleration for you, which is lame. Get something midrange! You don’t have to spend a lot to get a lot here. Something like those 90 dollar ATI cards from the latest generation are way more than enough for what you need.
Ram: You’re OK. 4gb is a good amount for this, but if you’re shopping new you might consider punching up to 8 or 16. Ram is cheap and gives you really awesome benefits. Try something stupid if you get 16gb of ram: Install Fallout 3 to a 9gb ramdrive, watch the load times disappear!
HDD: You’re going to hate this. If you have a SATA II disk, that has good throughput, you can do 720p recording using Lagarith to it pretty decently as long as the disk is dedicated. Anything more than that and you’ll want something RAID0 based. IDE just won’t cut it at high resolutions, but those disks are perfectly good as storage for things that you’ve recorded or resultant files from re-encodes.
I agree with everything said above, and he hasn’t even gone into the bandwidth requirements of streaming. A 360p stream looks pretty good at 2Mb/s. A 720p stream is 4x the area and I would guess needs 4x the bandwidth. 1080p is over double the area of 720p as well.
My advice is to start small with what you have already and upgrade as you discover your bottlenecks. There is no need to be dropping $1k+ on a 1080p capture card when you’re limited in other areas like bandwidth.
y was buyed that capture card. i have bigest problems whit hdcp. some times found really some times!! may be drivers. the last driver dhcp suport no realeased. not found fine 
. I am try install on w7 32 and 64 bits every time its a same problems hdcp. Some times problems a record on signals no hdcp " record error"