Stop doing this in combo videos

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Yeah, I would like to. I’ve been posting little clippits in this thread here for SFA3. Mostly V-ism combos. Not a movie production, just videos.

I’m also working on contributing combos for a combo video collaboration for Monster. Won’t be my video, I’m just helping with combos for it. Though I’d really like to do a SF3:3S video for Ibuki, I just don’t know when I’ll get to it (massive project, like the Guy video).

Another thing I’d like to make eventually is a tech-trapping, guard breaks, and guard crushes audio tutorial for SFA3 similar in nature to Sirlin’s ST tutorials (explaining the whys and hows).

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They put infinite tension, but they still use as much tension that is actually possible. Training mode without infinite tension isn’t a good idea since it takes a few tries to perform a good combo, and thus would require combo makers to keep refilling their tension the “legit” way.

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Heh. There was a way I cheated with Guilty Gear training Modes for that. I gave myself a normal meter, but gave myself Infinite BURST. So whenever I needed to start again, I would run up and Gold Burst to get my meter back, and then continue.

And most of the time in GG videos, when they get those multiple Counter Hits in a row, they do it by pumping the opponent’s Guard meter alllll the way up. So it’s a REALLY specific situation, but it is “possible”. But that’s how almost 95% of the 100% damage combos are done in that game in Combo Videos.

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James, this gives you a reason to use Ayumi Hamasaki - Evolution for your trailer. http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=3876459&postcount=314

another arcade in CA is closing! :^( and its not FFA like everyone thinks :^(

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Not to sound like an old geezer here, but I remember back in the days really good combo videos like Joo Vol 1 and 2, where it was just 3 seconds of intro and 2 minutes of combos and 3 seconds of credits.

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Yep, some problem? Can you do better?

:tup:

Nice vid. I particularly like animes in some parts of vid combos, but nothing excessive.

Yep…

Im curious about it.

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My complete feedback later… :wonder:

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Polarity, first thing.

In my mind, isn’t fair, you use my old projects as reference to explain your indignation with that style of combo movies.

I know, my old CMs was ridiculous and horrible, but I was excessively young and didn’t understand absolutely nothing about cmv production.

Today, that kind of video, boring me.
Today, the simple things and clean combo videos is the best way and the best choice to me.

But , YOU NEED, respect the peoples, include editors, and everyone that like work and produce videos with focus in edition, exotic musics ( why not ? ) and other things… It’s an option… You can hate, it’s your problem, repeating “IT’S YOUR PROBLEM” if you dislike of that videos, don’t download, it’s simple, right ?

In Cyberfanatix website, and in SNK community, ( in specially KOF Community ) The video editors stay working hard to improve your skills, because it, that videos have long intros, many effects fx and more things.

But in my opinion, if I hate that kind of videos, why I will go download ?
You have your opinion and I have the mine, but I never disrespected anyone because of different tastes

Yes, you have a mother, maybe her gave to you education or need teach you how respect different tastes, different peoples and different ways to do the same things.

Sorry for my poor, basic and horrible english.

:confused: tsc… tsc… tsc

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im only offering constructive criticism its not like i can make everyone adhere to my views, nor am i trying to belittle anyone’s efforts

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Hey Robot-Hero, you released anything new after Genesis? I liked that Genesis combo video.

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Every combovid maker needs to have as good musical taste as jchensor.
Otherwise, just stick with the fucking in-game music.
Also, quit with the random anime shit that has nothing with the game you’re playing.

That’s all I’ve got to say.

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Don’t matter if we’re top players or not. Some games don’t even have top players in the U.S. scene to contact(they play, but just by themselves or they prefer not to share their info/profiles) to begin with… EFZ, Metrimelee and the rest of PI, Martial Masters, Variable Geo, Melty Blood, etc to name a few. I don’t know about others, but the stuff in my video at least are what I really use in tournaments and I had some success with those, even though I have really bad executions. A valid strategy is a valid one no matter who uses it.
Why do yall care so much about music, though? I mean, seriously. Its job is to keep the viewers not fall asleep, and that’s all there is to it, the way I see it. Compare to visual footages, what happens in audio is neglectable, unless there’s some sort of special things revolving around audio. In my case, I basically put the footages together, take a look at the duration, and slap in bgm that most closely matches the length of the video. No need to be anal about shit.

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Because 98% of combovid makers pick some of the shittiest music I’ve ever heard to put into their videos…seriously </quiche>

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I would like to address Robot Hero’s concerns. I compeltely understand where he is coming from. As a Combo Video maker, I understand the drive of making Combo Videos: it’s fun to do Combos and it’s fun to edit. This is why we all do it even though we, essentially, get nothing out of it. Which is why it hurts, obviously, when someone criticizes your work.

At one point, I was determined to make a Combo Video for Vampire Savior, but the problem was that I wasn’t interested in Combos anymore. I was onmly intersted in making a cool video where the actions on the screen matched the music (beats, lyrics, etc.). So I was gonna have Combos in it, of course, but I wasn’t interested in making crazy Combos (this philosophy eventually led to the 2-Hit Combo). I was only interested in making a “music video” per se.

I honestly think that the videos that Robot Hero make are easy targets for Combo Video purists. But from an editor’s standpoint, their technical skills are unrivaled in the community. Some of the things they do are extremely impressive, but they do detract from the Combos themselves… the main reason people watch them.

When I wanted to make my Vampire Savior video, I was determined to not call it a Combo Video, but rather a Combo Music Video to try and distinguish it from a typical Combo Video. I wanted to give it the implication that, yes there are combos, but no it’s not the most important thing. The editing is. It’s for a differnet audience.

I think that’s what Robot Hero’s work should be classified as. No directly a Combo Video, but more a Combo Music Video. So I think it deserves its own set of criteria on how it should be critiqued. In terms of being your standard Combo Video, admittedly, there is a lot to nitpick about it. But I think it’s unfair to not recognize the good things that it does do.

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Great post. I don’t like combovideos for the most part, because they usually don’t help at all with strategy or practical play.

Other people may like it because they like cool combos, and only the combos. They don’t care how ugly the video is, if you can see all the combos asap.

And others like to see a nice video, where the music goes well with the combos, or some animations appear here now and then.

I even have to admit that those japanese crazy match video on You Tube were crazy interesting. The guy outs cartoon special effects in the middle of the fights and all becomes really interesting.

All in all, there are different types of videos, for diff types of players.

But Polarity made a nice post. I understand that its humor made it cruel for some people, but the tips are mostly pretty good for the majority of combo video fans, IMO, and it may help who wants to appeal to a larger crowd.

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lawl :rofl: :lol:

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Maybe you should stop coming here.

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I just post here in the funny SNK related threads, bcuz this forum and 90% of the users are funny when they speak about SNK games, so I dont get bored in my forced home staying days :rofl:.

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Ya know now that I think about it, polaris you should make a similar post like this in Cyberfanatix.com cuz some/most of their combos have what u were mentioning in the first post.

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Great idea dude! I liked this post because had some ideas about CMV, but i desliked the flames… I will edit soon and I will use some animes and some sound tracks of movies like 300 etc. :angel: