Stop doing this in combo videos

Re: not so good tutorial videos

I like the content but the intro is almost a fucking minute long and the outro is over 2 minutes.

Thank you damn…the fucking truth…someone rep this man!!! :rock:

Like I said I can’t even watch CMVs anymore really…for this purpose…how many Combovid makers are top players???

Very few… (Their little “toys” do the work in the vids as I said before)

Their shit is as practical as the guy who thinks he’ll beat me, Faust, JeRon, the Triad, etc in NGBC or in any SNK game just because he can beat the Boss on Level 8…

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH!!! :rofl: :rofl:

Thats false in many ways you not looking.

For one,some places pleople don’t have enough or any comp to hold a tournament,the way gas prices is…,I like tournaments but I be damn I’m about to ride a state or 2 away for anything local tournament to prove anything.

Second,

There are people that enjoy CVs more then watching the same old matches.Marvel for example,same old teams :rolleyes: I stop watching mvc2 tournament matches years ago,Same old shit.But now something like Duc jr. vs Clockwork/Drama with a money match,more interesting.What local tournament matche videos hype up marvel then that?

But anyways you forgot that alot of players lack comp,therefore most of them won’t bother traveling weekly to go and lose in a local tournament then have to ride all the way back home.That’s stupid.

Third Dark Geese agreed with your post,now your post super failed

Oh! in less that person is some lazy bum that as no job,that lives off there parents money,umm yea I can I see them going to weeklys then.:tup: yea?

Sinn now let me disagree…I*** have practically no competition in my area*** (one person to play in KOFXI, NGBC hahaha no one, others no one etc)…so I have to leave to get competition so it all boils down to desire…if they aint gonna fucking get off their lazy asses to get competition then “you reap what you sow.”

I have no sympathy for those that have the means but pity themselves in the “Woe is me” mentality.

Put up or STFU…as the other thread says…STFU and play…

And esp for these combovids where you see the same shit more than once by different combovid makers copying the same shit over and over…WTF?

This thread and the STFU and play one go hand in hand…go to a tournament and play…

And I dont wanna hear* “I cant I dont have the means…”*

WTF??? I have broken my back sponsoring people FOR THIS VERY REASON…if you want to get it done you’ll find a way…maybe too many of these combovid makers are just casual gamers…have you thought of it that way??

They feel they will never be good at the game so this is their “way out” (Very much like the Money Matches!!! Not all are this way…some!)

I get sick and tired of trying to help people that dont want to be helped…it is a waste of my time…been there trying to help these very types of people go to this shit and front them cash only for them to make up some lame ass excuse everytime.

Means they dont got the gumption…the heart…the passion…what it takes to be successful in ANYTHING…

And without that I want no part of it…:tdown:

Sorry for this rant but I am very very passionate about what I do!

-Dark Geese

someone should make a combovid tutorial on how to make good combovids :wow:

Yes,it boils down to desire,but some without local comp,it truly boils down to Pure Realality.Ok.For just this once DG step out of fantasy land into the world.Some people have jobs and and bills to pay,Gas prices are a mother fucka too?NO comp means,NO practice,desire isn’t base on that.That’s not true desire.Desire is if that person,loves and still enjoy the game enough to watch CV’s,come on SRK,or try to make it to a tournament or 2 when they have the chance. That’s desire not giving up where you came from.

What does that have to do with anything about this thread :confused: CV’s shit now?

^ I stop reading here.

All you know is SNK,so you must be talking about Snk CV makers,Im sure anyone would put there money on a CV maker in any game other then snk,against you.To be honest you talk like you are more skillful then the CV makers themself.

I am talking about these SNK combovid makers…many of them are just that…combovid makers…they can do the combo but they cant tell you about a certain matchup???

That doesnt add up does it??? Hell they cant even tell you how to play the character at a high level!!! Something smells fishy here….PHONY!!!

And about the first thing…hmmm lets see…I work on a measly teacher salary…so trust me I know about work…I have a full-time job…and guess what…I have found a way to get it done…

Do what you gotta do…

Now stepping outside of that I understand some may not be in situations that permit that…but…

Show the effort the desire at least to do it…

And work towards that goal…and it will happen.


Let me tell you something about me…***

A year ago I was almost at rock-bottom financially…couldnt do shit…lost my car…lost my job, got kicked out of Grad School, almost lost my house…

But I kept at it…had my goals above me…to do what Im doing now…and guess what…


I found a Way***…to do what I’m doing now and be pretty good financially now…

That is what I am talking about…
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Some people have no goals or don’t know how to go about getting them…**

Believe it or not casual gamers keep the scene alive.At my arcade we have a good scene,everyone there is causal.That what keeps the scene alive.But agreeing CV makers should stop making videos,going to kill the scene faster like you ever imagine.You say you are for helping the scene,I dont see how thats helping.

But some fighting games are not meant for CV’s,I can agree on that if you saying from that direction.Like dbz games for example.But CV’s helps gets people into the game with it being a tutorial or just flashy combos.It’s a local player here where I’m from use to make marvel videos,and people seen his videos in our city and the marvel scene increase alot here.Also I seen some umk3 CV’s,shit it’s a old game,but I wanna play it now,I didn’t know the game was the broken.All I’m saying CV’s has it’s effects,without em,and their manner updates,that’s one less thing to help the scene.

***Okay we see eye to eye now…especially with the last part.***.:lovin:

I can totally agree with you…thats one way to help the scene I agree…:tup:

I just wish more of these combovid makers would go play in tournies…

Its like I can agree with inkblot and see where he is coming from with his thread…some seek fame from CMVs or Money matches ignoring Tournaments altogether…and we gotta remind them there is no “Get rich quick scheme”, they’ve gotta put the hard work in like all the rest of us.

I teach people fighting games, one thing I cant stand is the fickle person…the person that expects to be the best “overnight”, or believes they will be able to beat me overnight…but gets frustrated and quits the next week because it aint happening as fast as they thought. That bothers me…EVERYONE has their ups and downs…even the Mighty Justin Wong IN MARVEL. I say good for him…because ***I know ***he had to bust his ass to get in that position!

Hard work pays off there is no substitute for it!

But if this is just their way to help promote the scene (Like Thongboy Bebop) I have the utmost respect for them…

Kudos Thongboy Bebop…:china:

The legit Combovid makers I respect…its the phonies that I can’t stand…

Hey! Don’t copy my avatar! :rofl:

Haha, Magnetro.

Not a horrible idea. If I wasn’t like 10 videos behind at the moment I’d jump on it.

Aww shucks. Thanks yo.

I just try to make videos people would want to see, ya know? I figured that since the content was so dry (but SO necessary), people just needed a hook to make it digest better. Much unlike the next video, which is pretty much completely defined by the content with minimal assistance from my overhyped editing skills.

By the way I understand time, the it’ll be out in a few hours. In normal people time I think that means tomorrow morning or late tonight.

N - Ultra, you’re up next.

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:rofl::rofl::rofl:

+++ to dander, indeed.

What about KYSG, his little toy does all the work for him. His shit is as practical as the guy who thinks he can beat me just because he gets an MSF on every fight in arcade mode (dander)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! :rofl: :rofl:

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

One thing people fail to realize is that, for most Combo Video makers, making a Combo Video has nothing to do with competitive gaming. I don’t make Combo Videos because I think I’ll make myself a better player, nor do I think it’ll make other people better players. I make Combo Videos because it’s FUN, I like doing video editing projects, and I happen to have a subject by which I can make a video with the resources and finance that I have that is intersting to lots of people. It’s a hobby separate from being competitive.

And THEN, if a Combo Video maker wants to be competitive, he’ll play on the side as well. I used to practice a whole lot, going to SHGL once every week when it was still around, but I still made Combo Videos at th same time. They are unrelated. I hate it when people harp on Combo Video makers for being “average” players. So what? They aren’t doing Combo Videos to scare people or threaten people at how Godly they are. They are doing it for entertainment purposes.

(And I am talking specifically about Combo Videos. Tutorial Videos, obviously, serve a very different purpose.)

Well yeah. Everybody already knows I’m great.

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Combo videos designed for entertainment purposes can be fun to watch. Such as wacky or impractical content with a good editing and such.

Though, combo videos can also serve the same (or better) purpose as a written combo FAQ, too. A video representation can serve to help people with timing/spacing and situational combos.

A text based transcript like [c.LP]x2, LK xx qcf+HP-HP-d+HK, (VC2), OTG 360+K, rdp+LP-HP (hp whiffs), [DP+HP, qcf+HP-toward+HP (qcf whiffs)]xN

etc… doesn’t mean a whole lot to people when you just write it. But if you can show them the combo then maybe they can learn the timing and spacing for it. That example combo fails unless you time the OTG perfectly.

Honestly I watch combo videos for two reasons: to see a game I’ve never played before, or to learn combos from characters I don’t play.

I guess when I make videos I make them for both entertainment and education. Though in my case I hope the content is enough to provide entertainment on it’s own. I rather it be a combo video than a combo movie, so to speak.

so umm are you guys ever making another video? maybe another a3 video xeno?

EDIT: how much money did you lose thongboy for not having your new video out by the new year?

oh god:confused:

I don’t know if it happens so much nowadays, but in the heyday of the Alpha series, it seemed like a lot of stuff that Americans deemed “for entertainment purposes” and “impractical” for competitive play ended up being used–very competitively–by Japanese players.

I don’t remember exactly, since it’s been a while and a lot of my braincells have died since then, but I’m pretty sure the first time I ever heard of Demon Flip VCs or Genei Jin combos were from exhibition videos, not tourney play. So I think the entertaining combo videos have a lot more instructional value to them than might first meet the eye. The just-for-fun stuff and the practical stuff are no longer so easily separable.

I suppose it may depend on whether the combo is possible in actual play. Speaking from a very limited experience, most of the Guilty Gear Combo vids I see (for instance) are done in training mode, with unlimited tension, or free counter hits, or whatever. It makes for very amusing things, but they are completely outside the limits of actual play, since you’re playing with greatly expanded resources.

I tend to think that ‘difficulty of execution’ should never be considered in a balancing argument though. If stuff is effective and will help you win, people WILL learn it, no matter how hard it is to do. Sort of a related discussion.