Stop doing this in combo videos

Is it even possible to make a good combo vid with rap/hip-hop music… I haven’t seen any yet. I hear some tracks and I think they could work, but they are hard to find. (too much unrelated/distracting subject matter.)

Theres a couple guilty gear ones that work out with rap… o wait its Rand B so never mind…

Anime scenes have nothing to do in a combo video but for everything else that has been said here I’d hang you all. I’m gonna talk about kof combo videos, because rarely I’ve downloaded combo videos of other fighting games. You weren’t there to see when all the combos that appeared in cmvs were basic and practical, in the first 2 years when the combo videos scene was still growing. When it grew and a lot of groups started to make combo videos they disemboweled it discovering and putting in videos all the possible variations of each combo that the game had. Then when the human limits started to get in the way of the creativity and the urge for more and better videos that the community claimed, the external tools such as software that helps you to program inputs began to appear, and the combos became more and more conditional, given that there weren’t many new things that you could do to add hits in a combo that hadn’t been done already. Why do you come now to cliche them relating conditional combos with good edition? It’s like the fact that many here have a distorted idea about kof because they have never had where to develop their skill playing to see if it is good and why. The 5 minute intros have never bothered me, I can simply click on when the combos begin (but I usually don’t since I enjoy watching everything), the credits don’t bother me either, I could just close it when I know that the combos finish passing. The music is generally fine unless it’s annoying metal/rock or too much jap pop. What does the video edition have of bad? it’s just to celebrate the quality of the combos. Really some of the things that I’ve read here make me think that some are jealous.

the editing distracts from the combos, it doesnt ‘celebrate’ them :confused:

i agree mostly with the intro…but sometimes the intro is done so well that i jsut dont care. One of the best ones i can remember is the 3s tutorial with shenmue in the beginning

Hee hee.

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Just been browsing through this thread and I agree with most of what people say however with regards to effects I don’t mind them as long as they work well and go in theme with the combo vid and music. Eg:

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I actually like this combo vid alot.

But random shout outs mid way through a combo vid is gay as hell and needs to stop. Random anime pics are kinda stupid too.

Imo combo vids come in two distinct categories:

  1. To educate (simple)
  2. To amaze (its this type that is full of shitty OTT editing)

Yes, this forum sucks because 98% of the threads aren’t about KOF 2k2.

It’s just unoriginal.

I used anime in this CMV, but not Excessive and the combos are bored. :looney:

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Btw, those combos are kind of basic for today’s kof videos. I’m not sure when you actually released this video but many of those combos are back from like 2003 and have been done by me in actual matches.

But anyway, the editing is reasonable I guess, but I thought Maxima’s “anime scene” that you gave him was kind of lame looking.

Edit: But…it doesn’t seem like you used macros for this video, which many new combo videos do use, so that’s good.

Why do people think that anyone owes them congrats just because they worked (hard) on something? If it sucks, it sucks. Old or not. It’s not like he says you still suck (if he did I didn’t catch it; and if he did maybe you actually dO). Respect (for your craft at least) is earned. If we dislike it, that’s YOUR problem, cuz we’re NOT downloading OR watching it for over half of a minute. And I don’t think you put in all that hard work to be ignored, did you? Instead of just lashing out because someone didn’t like your stuff, maybe you could reanalyze your approach to video game media.

All that anime shit is irrelevant. All that bad music is distracting. We don’t have to like and if we don’t trust me when I say that we’re not downloading it. Constructive criticism isn’t disrespectful anyway. If he REALLY didn’t respect you would he have put any time into suggesting better alternatives. If he REALLY disrespected he could simply say that your shit sucks, give it one star on youtube and be on his marry way. Instead, he made a thread, opened a discussion and put together a big list of things not to do so that anyone watching could hopefully better themselves.

So, I’d like to know why James Chen’s music (in his Ode to the 2 hit combo) is considered good for combo videos, while “anime music” is generally considered bad.

The main problem is that the wrong people seem to be watching these videos. Robot-Hero’s kof combos, for instance, require great knowledge about the game’s mechanics, about game bugs, frames and hitboxes. Some combos don’t look THAT special unless you really know what’s going on. It seems that nowadays, people rate combovideos without even evaluating the main point of the video - the combos. It’s especially worse when the evaluators know little about the game to begin with.

So Robot-Hero, whether his editing is good/bad, should obviously get recognition because his combos are all new and very difficult to perform, as opposed to just doing what everyone’s already seen. It’s especially difficult when kof2k2 has been out for 4 years, yet people are still finding new and interesting things thanks to the usage of hex.

Because James Chen actually uses pieces that are superb and appropriate and matches up the rhythm of the footage to the music.

Whereas “anime music” is usually crap, and rarely is relevant to the game/footage.

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I’m making my 6th combo video that I’m sure you’ll all not like. I’ll let you know when I finish it.

the indignant wap returns!

My pet peeve is combos that take some insanely unrealistic setup. Like all the combos where a character throws a projectile and the other character cooperates by back dashing 10 times then letting it hit them.

Combos that require your opponent to help you aren’t really combos. If your opponent is going to help you out you might as well just have them not block and call everything a combo.

A lot of combos with projectiles fall into this category. It really bores me when 90% of the combos in a video are combos you can never even attempt unless your opponent is an infant.

I tend to turn the volume to zero when watching most combo vids. I don’t mind the J-Pop and J-Rock, since they’re a very diverse genre; but people tend to pick the most archaic, overplayed and just downright lame songs to go with their combo vids.

And at least have the music match the video. Soft songs + Yamazaki going crazy do not go together, it’s common sense.