STL Garbage VII: The Return of Garbage!

Any chance someone gets something going tonight?

mr k - you’re an idiot. I DO beat you consistently you dumb fuck. let’s see, rufus vs gouken i dominated you. flow chart blanka vs gouken, i DOMINATED you like 12-1. ryu vs gouken, it went something like for every 4 i won, you win 1. i dunno how much more consistent i need to beat you for you to understand. the reason you take games off me is because i play reckless against you. i don’t think at all, i play flowchart and you catch me on it sometimes by countering a flowchart. i don’t respect your game. the reason you NEVER beat glen is because he actually tries to play you to win the games. i don’t care about winning or losing against you. i just DO things because i know i can get away with it most of the time and still win a majority of the time.

if i was trying my hardest, i’d dominate you like 40-0 with any character i play. well, maybe you might get a few games in because you seem to have decent mixups in which i can’t always guess right. but all i’m saying is you’re nowhere NEAR the level to scare me into playing hard.

and if you think your style is anything close to rex’s, you’re an idiot. i don’t really complain about rex’s risky style because he plays good 90% and has a solid base structure for his groundgame and incorporates a bit of high risk high reward type play to add to his variability in his gameplay. you’re just an idiot who just throws shit out like wakeup ex’s all the time. but i will call rex out on some retarded bullshit he does if i see it. i’m gonna relate this to poker because rex plays poker and can relate. If you go all in with the best hand and someone calls you with a 2 outer draw and the drawer hits. it doesn’t make it a GOOD play because he won. it just means you got lucky by making a risky move and getting paid off. that’s your style mr k except it’s more prevelent in sf because you’re not valueing money, you’re just valueing the round.

don’t even compare your style to alex valle. he doesn’t even really play risky. he plays aggressive rushdown really well. his style lends itself to people wanting to press buttons on him. and his thought process that he goes through is far more complexed than yours. what may seem random, might not be.

but you’re just an idiot. i’ve been playing sf a lot longer than you. i know game theories, sf mechanics, zoning, ground game, reactionary concepts 100x better than you do. i’ve played multiple games at fairly high levels of competition and i know how to become a top player. you on the other hand have a millenia of struggle before you can touch my level.

do you HONESTLY think rex won the AR’s he has by playing risky? you fucking dumbass. do you think alex valle wins the tourney’s he does by playing risky? fucking moron. alex valle is soo good that he can be a lil risky at times, but a majority of his gameplay is solid as FUCK. you’re sooo fucking stupid, omg. i can’t believe you just tried to compare your styles together. most the time, they don’t even NEED to play risky because they are just controlling the match most the time and opponents just fall victim to it.

naive :-/

you know what i found really funny too? when i was playing blanka against you. i was playing MAD flowchart. but you kept losing to it. you never found a good answer for any mixup i had. you never took the time to slow down your gameplay to think about your options. you try to think too fast and react. that’s how i know you suck. you don’t THINK. and when you do, you think too fast and stupid to know what’s happening to you.

you just need to stop talking because i’m not losing an argument to you.

Allen it seems like I can’t win this argument against you. No matter what you’re gonna hate me and not even really play against me. If you don’t want to play against me, fine. You want to act like you’re fifteen times better than me, fine. But you’re the only one throwing around insults and getting angry. It’s always been the case that I’m not gonna be worth anything to you until I beat you in the tournament. And I will.

You’re the one who wanted to play me. You’re the one throwing out insults. You’re the one telling me to completely change the way I play to fit your ideas of what SF is. If you can live with hating on someone then I can’t stop you.

You think I don’t know that Rex and Valle play smart 90% of the time? And even if I’m not as good as them, I can still have role models. You are not my mentor, I don’t want you to be my mentor.

I never found an “answer” to your mixups? There is no fucking answer. My only reversal against throws is EX tatsu, which you obviously don’t want me throwing out. My OS tech got caught all day because Gouken has a fucking six frame crouch short. And stand teching is just looking for death against blanka. That’s a bad matchup that I stuck with and tried to learn by playing against you.

Play me Seth vs Blanka and we’ll see how well you do with a flowchart. I would have been playing Seth the whole time against you but he wasn’t unlocked.

i don’t hate you because of the way you play. i dislike you because you’re gay. let’s get that straight. i was talking to shekeib about like certain things you said and did at the hookup that we both kinda thought you were a ******. and i didn’t even bring it up, he did. he was like…“why is mr k gay?” i was like what do you mean?..“he was like saying and doing some really dumb stuff”…“oh? like what?” “well, like he would always like chuckle whenever you got hit by a move, lol… it happens when you’re trying to get in on sagat with rufus”. when he brought that up, i was like…“yeah man, that was annoying as shit, but i didn’t wanna bring it up cause i didn’t give a shit anymore”. it’s just your mannerisms that lend me to dislike you and your gameplay. like for real, imagine me playing glen’s sagat and i hit him with ryu’s c.mk often, you’d just chuckle everytime and it would be annoying as SHIT.

like for real, if you were a cooler guy, i wouldn’t even be getting upset with how you play. it’s the fact that you’re stubborn as shit and act gay that makes me just dislike you so much. you just don’t fit the social norms at all within social groups. like, when you are in a room filled with top players, most people would try to change themselves a little to fit the norm of the personalities of the people in the room. you still act like a ***. it’s just weird to me. i mean, not even just a little change?

i’m not even trying to be your mentor. i never was. i honestly think rex is the only top player in missouri that likes you. he tries to be cool with everybody though.

and u know what, i noticed you didn’t talk much shit when we played. but you still kept your stupid mannerisms.

Just settle this drama at AR-ASTL. Pride match, ft5. What do you guys say? There is no need to have hella drama over stoooooopid shit.

Oh…and I’m 10000000000000000000000000000 times better than both of you in SF4…I just don’t care enough to show you because you’re not worthy of my TRUE skill.

See how that sounded? C’mon guys, lets level up all of STL and get this infighting on the squash. If you got some beef, just man up and settle it on the game stage.

Oh…and I got $10 on Allen but infy props on Mr. K.

jeff - it’s not pride i care about. i just don’t like his personality. so then i just hate everything about him. the way he plays videogames, the way he eats, the way he walks and talks, the way he just BE’s. i love watching my roommate’s english bulldog just BE. you know, live his life. but mr k, his existence is just annoying.

LOL!!! The hate is thick!

Just so it doesn’t get lost in this, Round Robin this tuesday at mid rivers mall 6pm :D. Getcha level up on in time for super to drop!

Oh and jeff, is the next ar really gonna be all three days?
New sig, german’s insightful look at the impact of a trip to iowa on your sf game lol

Well I’m sorry if I irritated people by laughing. I wasn’t laughing at the player, I was laughing at how unfair the matchup was at that very point. It’s funny to me how bad Rufus is from far away against Sagat because of how dangerous Rufus is up close. It’s a total paradigm shift. It’s funny because of how hard Rufus has to work to get in. And then when Rufus gets in it’s funny because he has so much random bullshit like EX Messiah into ultra. If my laughter was annoying I wish someone would have said something. I’m not psychic, I didn’t know that people would take my laughter personally. I never even thought about it. I was there to have fun and learn. The Sagat/Rufus matchup was entertaining to watch to me.

If I’m irritating multiple people I have no problem changing my behavior. But you have to tell me, or at least hint. But I play SF for fun, and I don’t know if I could go the entire night without a lighthearted mood. I’m just trying to be friendly.

Edit: Really, laughing at the Rufus/Sagat matchup wouldn’t be any different than laughing at the Seth/Rufus matchup when Rufus gets j.hk -> EX Snakestrike, right? I wouldn’t have any problems with people laughing at me getting hit with EX SS because it is funny how much damage it does. Hell, I usually laugh when I get hit by it too. But I can see how I could irritate someone by laughing like that. Sorry.

@Rex - the official AR will be on Saturday. We’ll run all of the money tourneys then. Manny just hasn’t updated the thread with the info.

lol… welcome to the club, baby allen. I didn’t expect the reoccurence of the tumor within a month…:rofl: apparently it’s not curable no matter how much money he pays for the surgery…LOL

mr k - what were we supposed to say…“god damn, shut the fuck up, why are you laughing everytime i’m getting hit?” it was just annoying at the time. and the fact that i told you something was a weird risk and then you like said something dumb. ok, listen, it was a stupid risk to do wakeup ex hurricane kick with the life lead you had. everything about that night was just you annoying me. yeah, i got hit by it, but it was still stupid. you coulda won that match by other means. i didn’t put you on being so damn risky there. i gave you too much credit. you whiff that, you lose, simple. you were willing to throw your lifelead away and lose the match on a laggy ass wakeup reversal, good for you mr k, very smart shit.

and i’m glad u like to have fun and whatnot, but sometimes, u need to know when to and when not to intrude with your obnoxiousness. it’s a good life skill to have. if you’re talking shit to a loud player who can take it, it’s funny. if you’re talking shit to a quiet player, you’re just being an asshole. you need to just get the hint already. we shouldn’t have to make it very obvious by like whiserping shit and then looking at you like this…O_o

edit: and the rufus/seth example you gave isn’t the same. we can laugh at the damage, it’s very apparent what you’re laughing at. but laughing because i get hit by a standing rh or a fireball? am i supposed to like sherlocke holmes that shit and investigate why that’s funny to you?

Hello STL!

Its like a salt truck came in here and just dumped all over this thread, this must be especially funny to james since i predicted this thursday night to him on facebook lol.
Gotta say, no way MrK gets six games on allen if they were to play for money lolol(and he’d be able to use his main hehe)

Jeff- good shit, i really didnt wanna have to come out there all 3 days >_<. I can’t wait for the HDr tourny!

Scamp- OH NO HE DIDNT! HYME HYME HYME!!!

lol… so not even mom mom rex is gonna root for him now eh? how sad…:pleased: he will never get a lead anyway~ baby allen can fuck around all day and still take his money…:smokin:

I guess no session tonight.

Well, I don’t mean to pry, but I just wanna say that idk which is harder, learning or teaching. I know both take a lot of compassion. Then again, a teacher is never done learning, and one who learns can often teach. Learning takes humility, no doubt. But teaching takes tact, and patience.

I guess I’m saying that if you can’t show compassion, and be tactful and patience, then you shouldn’t teach. And, just the same, if you can’t humble yourself, while also being compassionate, then you shouldn’t put yourself in a position to learn.

Both also take wisdom. It takes ensight to know when a person doesn’t show the compassion to be able to teach. So, then, when you realize that such is so, you have to determine if you have the patience to deal with whatever it is the teacher lacks. Just the same, if the teacher realizes that the learner doesn’t have what it takes to simply learn, then it takes wisdom to know when to just cut ties.

I know I wasn’t there whenever this happened, which is why it’s easier for me to not take sides. LOL. Just a few nuggets, though.

ok, this is hella funny.

who was the first person to ever think mr. k was stubborn? oh yes…it was me. LAST YEAR!

many months later and NOW ppl start seeing it. damn, i must have some hidden power.

i posted how i felt many months ago, J posted his feelings a month ago, allen posted today, and rex just doesnt want anything to do with it. rex in my opinion is the weakest king to express opinions, but hey thats his style. my respect for for him is still high in regards to fighters, but as someone to tell it like it is, rex is a joke. he is worse than a scrub when it comes to being blunt. almost everyone here knows ill be blunt when i have to.

my views of K changed from the months before when i bashed him so ill express how i feel now. of course he will always be stubborn. for that i will never like K. tolerable? sure why not. do i notice the mannerisms? yes. annoying? beyond belief.

going on to sf4. yes, i believe his stubbornness does effect his gameplay ALOT but i also do believe he thinks when he plays. the thing is, when i picture mr. k thinking, his thought process is high risk mediocre reward. so lets say mr k is playing a dp character, he will do dp’s with no bars to back him up more than half the time. use this against him.

aks - ill be honest with you. i dont even try against mr k but at the same time im not gonna play reckless. he’s dumb but not THAT dumb.

lastly, beat allen in AR? that topped the cake. i know mr K is hella cocky, but this is just sheer fucking retarded. he didnt learn his lesson against J. id be surprised if ANYONE put money on K.

PEACE!

edit - makin fun of luger aint cool. 'specially when we know he is imo the one with the BIGGEST drive to wanting to get better. sure, traveling = more exposure = more experience, but yeah…iowa is a bad example. all im saying is, dont bash on someone who we know and seen personally trying to learn and wants to get better.

So, Glen, I’m curious. What’s your opinion on me, besides the fact that i’m ‘fraaay’?

LoL at scrub at being blunt :D.

It seems like this hole thing started cuz K was taking a good amount of games off allen(when i told james, he said “tell allen to quit sucking” and i had to reply “no fucking way dude, hes maaaaad salty acting right now”).Allen told me- “nah i like mrk, but if i were to lose to him then i would get pissed” which was kinda what happened. K made it worse with his response, but as big an ass as MrK was being, allen has to know he looks like one too with his posts.

It’s not healthy for the scene for all the top players to try and “gang up” on people for being scrubby or whatever, cliquing up like this is high school lol. And who in their right mind would read this thread and want to play street fighter?

And k does have a point about saying something to someones face at the event of occurence, to me, posting stuff online is not being blunt with someone. When it comes to saying things in real life, im more blunt than even you glen :). For real if mrk was pissing me off, i would turn around and tell him to stfu(see raeli at aerial rave :smiley: ), i wouldn’t go post about it two days later lol.

Im not taking sides, cuz thats more retarded than this beef is in the first place. I just think people need to chill out…

The asian brodas all posting up like “we godlike haha mrk get put in your place son you cant fuck with us hahaahah” is like, wtf. Who cares outside of you 3? Everybody knows the kings are better than mrk thats obvious. Your pumping yourselves up to yourselves, and i dunno if you see that. This thread has grown way past the “good ole boys” it was before, and i honestly think you guys are showing yourselves in a bad light. Now i know you prolly thinking- “oh who cares? there scrubs i only care what the good players think”…which prolly means that these other players dont give a fuck what u guys think. If that makes any sense lol iv started drinking :slight_smile:

Oh and everybody remember, drama and beef free Round Robin this tuesday at 6pm. Do it big!