Star Wars

tataa8P · December 20, 2017, 12:20am

So great seeing people going off on various tangents just to hate on the movie.

It’s all about perspective and vision; what you saw in TLJ is Rian Johnson’s take on Star Wars. Love or hate it, the purpose of the film was to elicit a reaction from the audience the same way ESB was polarizing when it came out.

Honestly, it’s getting annoying that people will keep forcing their own agendas and asinine arguments just to make a point. Keep grasping at straws plebs.

dodgers2213 · December 20, 2017, 12:36am

dodgers2213:

[details=Spoiler]if resistance truly are devoted to their cause, get a few of them to kamikaze the First Order Fleets and they’ll win before happy hour ends.

That one ship laid waste to like fucking 12 Star Destroyers and the ULTIMATE SUPER SUPREME MYSTIC STAR DESTROYER

[] Most of this entire movie would not need to happen of purple hard broad shared the plan with the rest of the crew. Why was it a secret escape plan? that shit caused a fucking mutiny. There was no mole or some sort of tech where they were eavesdropping.

Had purple haired chick explain to Poe the plan, no need to send Finn to find code cracker guy that ends of betraying them and getting almost everyone killed except for a small classroom sized group of people

Finn is hot garbage of a character. It would have been better for him to die in a heroic sacrifice. It made no sense how Poe peels off the troops and says it’s suicide, then Finn continues forward and is not shot at… At all. He was seconds from saving the day until annoying Asian chick comes out of nowhere to “save” Finn and we get a forced cringe kiss. And the two of them walk 5 football fields back to the base and not shot at by any of the First Order Mechs. All this just to have Luke Skywalker die. Yes, the writers and director felt we needed to keep Finn around and kill Luke Skywalker instead. Garbage

I always wanted to have a social commentary on animal cruelty and rich people in my Star Wars movies in a shoe horned in pointless sequence. Oh, a lot of tension their too with the silly jokes and such. I fucking rolled my eyes when Finn and Rose think they failed, the code cracker is gone, and the First Order is gonna kill everyone… but the trip was “worth it” because they saved like 4 alien dog/horses in some emotionally confusing scene. Was I supposed to feel “awe” or “hopelessness” I dunno but hey 1 second later Del Toro comes back.

We’re never allowed to sit on any given scene. Everything goes to another joke or another scene. Nothing is allowed to breath

Worst of all, the movie is fucking overall boring. I don’t have any reason to care about anything, so all the action just feel so fucking boring. Shit happens on screen but so fucking what. This movie is straight GARBAGE. Uninspired trash. At fucking least the prequels had some imagination. This move is… Hey remember super star Destroyers? Remember At-at walkers and the Hoth battle? Hey remember Palpy, Vader, and Luke and the temptation of the Dark Side? We have that too. Snoke just says shit we heard from a superior character in Palpatine.

Hey we have shirtless Kylo Ren in a sexual lyrics awkward joke with Rey.

Don’t forget we put Superman in this movie too in the most awkward and cringe scene in many fucking years. Maybe ever

I’d rather play Mahvel infinite [/details]

Edit

[details=Spoiler]
The movie also would have been over if all the Star Destroyers launched like a BILLION fighters.

Kylo return to the ship because we can’t cover you… So fucking what? Kylo and his squad destroyed the hangar of the remaining 5 Resistance fighters. They just 5 minutes ago lost pretty much their entire fleet. The bridge of the lead ship is gone. Why fucking withdraw a because you’re capital ships can’t cover you? What a fucking CONVENIENT plot. This movie is such shit [/details]

I’ll repost my full thoughts

dodgers2213:

[details=Spoiler]if resistance truly are devoted to their cause, get a few of them to kamikaze the First Order Fleets and they’ll win before happy hour ends.

That one ship laid waste to like fucking 12 Star Destroyers and the ULTIMATE SUPER SUPREME MYSTIC STAR DESTROYER

** Most of this entire movie would not need to happen of purple hard broad shared the plan with the rest of the crew. Why was it a secret escape plan? that shit caused a fucking mutiny. There was no mole or some sort of tech where they were eavesdropping.

Had purple haired chick explain to Poe the plan, no need to send Finn to find code cracker guy that ends of betraying them and getting almost everyone killed except for a small classroom sized group of people **

Finn is hot garbage of a character. It would have been better for him to die in a heroic sacrifice. It made no sense how Poe peels off the troops and says it’s suicide, then Finn continues forward and is not shot at… At all. He was seconds from saving the day until annoying Asian chick comes out of nowhere to “save” Finn and we get a forced cringe kiss. And the two of them walk 5 football fields back to the base and not shot at by any of the First Order Mechs. All this just to have Luke Skywalker die. Yes, the writers and director felt we needed to keep Finn around and kill Luke Skywalker instead. Garbage

I always wanted to have a social commentary on animal cruelty and rich people in my Star Wars movies in a shoe horned in pointless sequence. Oh, a lot of tension their too with the silly jokes and such. I fucking rolled my eyes when Finn and Rose think they failed, the code cracker is gone, and the First Order is gonna kill everyone… but the trip was “worth it” because they saved like 4 alien dog/horses in some emotionally confusing scene. Was I supposed to feel “awe” or “hopelessness” I dunno but hey 1 second later Del Toro comes back.

We’re never allowed to sit on any given scene. Everything goes to another joke or another scene. Nothing is allowed to breath

Worst of all, the movie is fucking overall boring. I don’t have any reason to care about anything, so all the action just feel so fucking boring. Shit happens on screen but so fucking what. This movie is straight GARBAGE. Uninspired trash. At fucking least the prequels had some imagination. This move is… Hey remember super star Destroyers? Remember At-at walkers and the Hoth battle? Hey remember Palpy, Vader, and Luke and the temptation of the Dark Side? We have that too. Snoke just says shit we heard from a superior character in Palpatine.

Hey we have shirtless Kylo Ren in a sexual lyrics awkward joke with Rey.

Don’t forget we put Superman in this movie too in the most awkward and cringe scene in many fucking years. Maybe ever

I’d rather play Mahvel infinite [/details]

Edit

Why the movie should be over in 15 mins

[details=Spoiler]
The movie also would have been over if all the Star Destroyers launched like a BILLION fighters.

Kylo return to the ship because we can’t cover you… So fucking what? Kylo and his squad destroyed the hangar of the remaining 5 Resistance fighters. They just 5 minutes ago lost pretty much their entire fleet. The bridge of the lead ship is gone. Why fucking withdraw a because you’re capital ships can’t cover you? What a fucking CONVENIENT plot. This movie is such shit [/details]

Edit :I’m on mobile. Hard to post properly.

Pertho · December 20, 2017, 12:41am

I know that Disney is run by zionist masonic jews who are pushing multiculturalism so that white women breed with minority men and create a mongrel with a lower IQ that then said zionist masonic jews can rule over…But,

This thread is about Star Wars. While there are a lot of cultural things going on in how the actors were chosen, ultimately what matters is their performance and the story they told. Making a big deal about them casting minorities is about as fucking dumb as complaining about white people being in the movies.

So quit all the SJW stuff and discuss the movie based on its merits and its flaws. Please don’t make me come in here again over some bullshit.

Optimus124 · December 20, 2017, 12:44am

Agreed.

dodgers2213:

dodgers2213:

[details=Spoiler]if resistance truly are devoted to their cause, get a few of them to kamikaze the First Order Fleets and they’ll win before happy hour ends.

That one ship laid waste to like fucking 12 Star Destroyers and the ULTIMATE SUPER SUPREME MYSTIC STAR DESTROYER

[] Most of this entire movie would not need to happen of purple hard broad shared the plan with the rest of the crew. Why was it a secret escape plan? that shit caused a fucking mutiny. There was no mole or some sort of tech where they were eavesdropping.

Had purple haired chick explain to Poe the plan, no need to send Finn to find code cracker guy that ends of betraying them and getting almost everyone killed except for a small classroom sized group of people

Finn is hot garbage of a character. It would have been better for him to die in a heroic sacrifice. It made no sense how Poe peels off the troops and says it’s suicide, then Finn continues forward and is not shot at… At all. He was seconds from saving the day until annoying Asian chick comes out of nowhere to “save” Finn and we get a forced cringe kiss. And the two of them walk 5 football fields back to the base and not shot at by any of the First Order Mechs. All this just to have Luke Skywalker die. Yes, the writers and director felt we needed to keep Finn around and kill Luke Skywalker instead. Garbage

I always wanted to have a social commentary on animal cruelty and rich people in my Star Wars movies in a shoe horned in pointless sequence. Oh, a lot of tension their too with the silly jokes and such. I fucking rolled my eyes when Finn and Rose think they failed, the code cracker is gone, and the First Order is gonna kill everyone… but the trip was “worth it” because they saved like 4 alien dog/horses in some emotionally confusing scene. Was I supposed to feel “awe” or “hopelessness” I dunno but hey 1 second later Del Toro comes back.

We’re never allowed to sit on any given scene. Everything goes to another joke or another scene. Nothing is allowed to breath

Worst of all, the movie is fucking overall boring. I don’t have any reason to care about anything, so all the action just feel so fucking boring. Shit happens on screen but so fucking what. This movie is straight GARBAGE. Uninspired trash. At fucking least the prequels had some imagination. This move is… Hey remember super star Destroyers? Remember At-at walkers and the Hoth battle? Hey remember Palpy, Vader, and Luke and the temptation of the Dark Side? We have that too. Snoke just says shit we heard from a superior character in Palpatine.

Hey we have shirtless Kylo Ren in a sexual lyrics awkward joke with Rey.

Don’t forget we put Superman in this movie too in the most awkward and cringe scene in many fucking years. Maybe ever

I’d rather play Mahvel infinite [/details]

Edit

[details=Spoiler]
The movie also would have been over if all the Star Destroyers launched like a BILLION fighters.

Kylo return to the ship because we can’t cover you… So fucking what? Kylo and his squad destroyed the hangar of the remaining 5 Resistance fighters. They just 5 minutes ago lost pretty much their entire fleet. The bridge of the lead ship is gone. Why fucking withdraw a because you’re capital ships can’t cover you? What a fucking CONVENIENT plot. This movie is such shit [/details]

Optimus124:

dodgers2213:

Whether or not you agree there was a message of Women > Men on this movie–which to me is a minor detail–the problems of the movie lie in the script and the horrific contrived plot, and how long and boring it is. Useless side stories, silly political undertones of animal cruelty and rich people, and the entire movie should have been over by the 15 minute mark in favor of the First Order or at about the 2 hour mark (ZzZzzz) for the Resistance.

You could say the same thing for the entire Original trilogy given the odds. The Rebel threat shouldn’t have been a thing.

I’ll repost my full thoughts

dodgers2213:

[details=Spoiler]if resistance truly are devoted to their cause, get a few of them to kamikaze the First Order Fleets and they’ll win before happy hour ends.

That one ship laid waste to like fucking 12 Star Destroyers and the ULTIMATE SUPER SUPREME MYSTIC STAR DESTROYER

** Most of this entire movie would not need to happen of purple hard broad shared the plan with the rest of the crew. Why was it a secret escape plan? that shit caused a fucking mutiny. There was no mole or some sort of tech where they were eavesdropping.

Had purple haired chick explain to Poe the plan, no need to send Finn to find code cracker guy that ends of betraying them and getting almost everyone killed except for a small classroom sized group of people **

Finn is hot garbage of a character. It would have been better for him to die in a heroic sacrifice. It made no sense how Poe peels off the troops and says it’s suicide, then Finn continues forward and is not shot at… At all. He was seconds from saving the day until annoying Asian chick comes out of nowhere to “save” Finn and we get a forced cringe kiss. And the two of them walk 5 football fields back to the base and not shot at by any of the First Order Mechs. All this just to have Luke Skywalker die. Yes, the writers and director felt we needed to keep Finn around and kill Luke Skywalker instead. Garbage

I always wanted to have a social commentary on animal cruelty and rich people in my Star Wars movies in a shoe horned in pointless sequence. Oh, a lot of tension their too with the silly jokes and such. I fucking rolled my eyes when Finn and Rose think they failed, the code cracker is gone, and the First Order is gonna kill everyone… but the trip was “worth it” because they saved like 4 alien dog/horses in some emotionally confusing scene. Was I supposed to feel “awe” or “hopelessness” I dunno but hey 1 second later Del Toro comes back.

We’re never allowed to sit on any given scene. Everything goes to another joke or another scene. Nothing is allowed to breath

Worst of all, the movie is fucking overall boring. I don’t have any reason to care about anything, so all the action just feel so fucking boring. Shit happens on screen but so fucking what. This movie is straight GARBAGE. Uninspired trash. At fucking least the prequels had some imagination. This move is… Hey remember super star Destroyers? Remember At-at walkers and the Hoth battle? Hey remember Palpy, Vader, and Luke and the temptation of the Dark Side? We have that too. Snoke just says shit we heard from a superior character in Palpatine.

Hey we have shirtless Kylo Ren in a sexual lyrics awkward joke with Rey.

Don’t forget we put Superman in this movie too in the most awkward and cringe scene in many fucking years. Maybe ever

I’d rather play Mahvel infinite [/details]

Edit

Why the movie should be over in 15 mins

[details=Spoiler]
The movie also would have been over if all the Star Destroyers launched like a BILLION fighters.

Kylo return to the ship because we can’t cover you… So fucking what? Kylo and his squad destroyed the hangar of the remaining 5 Resistance fighters. They just 5 minutes ago lost pretty much their entire fleet. The bridge of the lead ship is gone. Why fucking withdraw a because you’re capital ships can’t cover you? What a fucking CONVENIENT plot. This movie is such shit [/details]

Which again, You had a band of about 30 fighters go up against the Death Star at the Battle of Yavin. They should have launched a bajillion TIE Fighters or moved in a fleet of Star Destroyers to intercept.

Agreed. The movie didn’t care to keep things the way that they were. It’s not perfect, but at least it gave you something new.

Foolinfection · December 20, 2017, 1:20am

Necrotrophic:

Foolinfection:

I think it’s hilarious how people are mad about females and minorities being front and center. Like it matters,guys. Lmao.

that isnt what this is about at all. nobody cares if women and minorities take lead roles.

the issue is that if its done in a sjw style, it lacks authenticity. hell, the first thing i complained about with this movie, in this very thread was mark hamill, who is a straight white male. obviously the issue isnt identity, bit rather the execution and the script.

there are many movies and various other forms of entertainment that I’m into that have minorities and women in the main roles, but they’re more from the heart

the issue isnt the identity, but rather the nature of the script and how the identity is used as a tool in the movie.

Again. Like it matters. What makes it SJW style? It’s a silly thing to focus on and be bothered by.

Necrotrophic · December 20, 2017, 1:27am

Foolinfection:

Necrotrophic:

Foolinfection:

I think it’s hilarious how people are mad about females and minorities being front and center. Like it matters,guys. Lmao.

that isnt what this is about at all. nobody cares if women and minorities take lead roles.

the issue is that if its done in a sjw style, it lacks authenticity. hell, the first thing i complained about with this movie, in this very thread was mark hamill, who is a straight white male. obviously the issue isnt identity, bit rather the execution and the script.

there are many movies and various other forms of entertainment that I’m into that have minorities and women in the main roles, but they’re more from the heart

the issue isnt the identity, but rather the nature of the script and how the identity is used as a tool in the movie.

Again. Like it matters. What makes it SJW style? It’s a silly thing to focus on and be bothered by.

I’m not really bothered by it, I’m just stating my opinion on the flaws of the movie. I’m not angry or anything. Ever since the prequels I’ve kinda had to come to terms with the clunky acting of star wars. Its really just me discussing the film.

as for bad acting and dialogue, it just takes me out of the movie experience because it doesn’t feel like real people. it kinda ruins immersion. it felt like human emotion was being skipped over in favor of making a shallow political point

I already stated what i needed to say about what makes something sjw, read a page or so back. so I’m not going to go there anymore

if we had a sjw fail thread maybe we could discuss it more in depth… just sayin

Pertho · December 20, 2017, 1:28am

@Foolinfection look you fucking idiot, drop it means you dont reply to the stuff either.

Foolinfection · December 20, 2017, 1:29am

Necrotrophic:

Foolinfection:

Necrotrophic:

Foolinfection:

I think it’s hilarious how people are mad about females and minorities being front and center. Like it matters,guys. Lmao.

that isnt what this is about at all. nobody cares if women and minorities take lead roles.

the issue is that if its done in a sjw style, it lacks authenticity. hell, the first thing i complained about with this movie, in this very thread was mark hamill, who is a straight white male. obviously the issue isnt identity, bit rather the execution and the script.

there are many movies and various other forms of entertainment that I’m into that have minorities and women in the main roles, but they’re more from the heart

the issue isnt the identity, but rather the nature of the script and how the identity is used as a tool in the movie.

Again. Like it matters. What makes it SJW style? It’s a silly thing to focus on and be bothered by.

I’m not really bothered by it, I’m just stating my opinion on the flaws of the movie. I’m not angry or anything. Ever since the prequels I’ve kinda had to come to terms with the clunky acting of star wars. Its really just me discussing the film.

as for bad acting and dialogue, it just takes me out of the movie experience because it doesn’t feel like real people. it kinda ruins immersion.

Okay. So what makes it a flaw?

Foolinfection · December 20, 2017, 1:30am

Sorry. Didn’t see your post above. Not trying to start shit. I’m just curious. No need to call me a fucking idiot.

Darksakul · December 20, 2017, 1:30am

No one cares if you are, Vegan, vegetarian, part-time vegan, communist vegan or what ever you are. Your screaming out, crying over SJW is only showing how insecure and sad you really are. Real men aren’t threaten by a strong woman, they hold them in high regards. Take your bitch-made He-mam woman hatin ass to 4chan.

r00ster22 · December 20, 2017, 1:32am

Sorry if it was already said but this movie messed up Luke bad. He was the guy that could see light in Darth Vader and still wouldn’t strike him down in the end. The second he sees his Kylo’s dark side he wants to execute his nephew in his sleep? This movie has some prequel level bad writing.

chadouken · December 20, 2017, 1:33am

Thank you SO MUCH for telling us how awesome you are!

Sacr3D · December 20, 2017, 1:33am

Anyway that [details=Spoiler] milk [/details] scene was random lol

Necrotrophic · December 20, 2017, 1:36am

no problem bud

odin · December 20, 2017, 1:36am

Aaaaaaaaanyway… This is just a bad movie. The more I think about it, the more I dislike it.
Enough plot armor to protect a Smurf from Thanos.
And pointless characters and subplots.

And how you gonna do my Jedi Grandmaster like that. I’m glad Hamill hated the script.

Pertho · December 20, 2017, 1:38am

Bro, you hit like on it before you posted.

Gtfo with that bullshit.

Foolinfection · December 20, 2017, 1:40am

Must have been on accident while scrolling as I’m on mobile. Happens all the time. So you can just change that attitude of yours. I honestly don’t appreciate it.

Like I’m dead serious. I didn’t see your post. No bullshit.

Optimus124 · December 20, 2017, 1:41am

Hamill also gave Kudos to the director

JokeeBoi · December 20, 2017, 1:45am

I’m just now reading this shit about how apparently it’s 4chan and Russia’s fault that this movie has bad audience scores as if its just fucking unfathomable that people just aren’t liking the movie because it bad.

That is some next level reaching to justify some bad scores lmao.

odin · December 20, 2017, 1:45am

Cool.
And he also said

http://fandom.wikia.com/articles/mark-hamill-doesnt-like-luke-written-last-jedi

Then he bit his tongue and went back on it when he felt it wasn’t gonna go over well.

But whatevs, movie is still shit.