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finn and rose told dj the plan. They didnt know when the republic was leaving just that they were. All the first order had to do was aim the guns towards the fleeing ships and hope to hit them.
Saw it last night. I’d give it a 5/10 at most.
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Pros:
+Kylo and Rey’s weird relationship was interesting.
+Seeing Yoda and Luke onscreen together again was cool and Yoda dropped some gems. Also Frank Oz hasn’t lost a beat unlike James Earl Jones who sounded like he had the flu in Rogue One.
+Scene with Luke facing the First Order battalion dolo was cool though it would’ve been cooler if he were actually there though and not simply projecting.
+Special effects were good.
+Some of the jokes were funny.
Cons:
-Rose was pointless, as was her and Finn’s whole caper. Failed to get the original Master Codebreaker, and got a knock-off who ended up betraying them anyway. They literally didn’t accomplish anything, which would have been fine if they were both better written characters.
-Luke was handled extremely poorly in both movies and it’s overly obvious they’re just trying to shuffle the old guard out to make way for their inferior new characters. My problems with how he was written, really carry over from TFA. Running away when shit gets real to hide on some planet while friends and allies get slaughtered only to show up at the 25th hour to provide a distraction long enough for an already decimated rebellion to escape before his pacemaker goes out. Weak as shit and not how I envisioned OT Luke ending up. Also his whole “I’m scared now” about Kylo was lame coming from a guy that faced Vader and the Emperor. You mean to tell me some man-child autist who got bopped by a chick with no training is supposed to be the scariest thing he ever saw? Reminds of 90’s comics where they would introduce a new character by having them beat up an established one in order to legitimize said new character; weak and contrived. Apparently Mark Hamill agrees judging from some interviews.
-Poe was written to be brash and incompetent and a terrible leader. For a second there it almost got interesting with the whole rebel mutiny thing (something we had never seen before) but I guess it’s taboo to have a flawed female character in these movies.
-Rey has no real growth and is too powerful already so there is really no where to go with her character She was already kicking ass and taking names since the first movie and even bested Luke in this one. Luke had progression and growth in all three movies. She does have a little arc with the whole ‘you don’t have to come from a sacred bloodline to be a Jedi’ which was interesting. In fact her interactions with Luke on the island were the most interesting parts of the movie too me. But from here where do they go? It kind of looks like they are going to ship her and Poe.
-Leia’s thing; you know what I’m talking about.
The problem is Rian Johnson tried to subvert everything. You think Rey is somebody? Nope. You want to learn more about Snoke? Sorry. You think Luke is going to train Rey? No way. No nostalgia and callbacks to a detriment; and I’m not some nostalgia junky. We see Luke’s X-wing underwater never to be seen again. In this case it was cutting of your nose to spite your face. I think from here on out we are going to see a gradual decrease in the profitability of Star Wars movies. This movie and episode IX will still make a killing relatively speaking but the sales are going to steadily and steadily decline from this point. With most of the old guard being killed off and hack writers at the helm this thing can only sustain itself for so long. When people get tired of binging on nostalgia what’s left? [/details]
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Did they tell him that on screen?
Either way, I suppose that’s a plausible explanation for it, even if I’m still not fond of it.
Spoiler
yes. While you dont hear everything they said it’s clearly obvious what they told him
After seeing it, they really did push in scenes shots of highly diverse crew on both sides. Not that it was a bad thing but it was very noticeable.
After going through so much hate, what did everyone WANT to see?
i don’t care how ppl here or elsewhere justify what they saw…IMHO this movie was trash.
it was a bad movie in general, not just a bad star wars movie.
things seem to be 50/50 split down the middle.
lets give it a few years. see how we like it.
or not.
J-Ride is right about the “every girl right, every man wrong” thing.
deducting 1 point for that lmao.
bitches be trippin
Podracing and midichlorians
Stop this sjw, mary sue nonsense.
Bruh, your /pol/ is showing!
I have to agree that SJW feminist shit isn’t really a big thing in this movie. The only way I could see it is because of Holdo basically telling Poe to fuck off for most of the movie but that’s just because they wrote Poe as a fucking retard in this movie. And Rey is about as Mary Sue-ish as fucking Anakin, it’s not an issue of her being female, it’s an issue of them introducing characters that are, “WHOOO look how fucking sick they are with the force isn’t that cooooool!” instead of the force being something that people are sensitive too and have to train to get the cool shit.
A movie with a continuation of plot points established in the previous movie.
No shit but elaborate.
It did. Just not how a lot of people wanted
This sounds familiar
Just got out of seeing Last Jedi.
Not a fan. Shit bored me to tears.
Spoiler
He didn’t tell them where they would be: he mentioned the cloaked evacuation plan. They then scanned and found them. They mentioned this after they pay him.
Liked it a lot more on rewatch. Definitely not what you would have expected. Absolutely not where I would have gone.
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Fuck this who will turn bullshit though.
It’s almost like people didn’t watch the trailers, listen to interview, or read articles that pretty much stated that this was gonna be something you won’t expect. Hell, even in the movie it was trying to get you to move on from the past or at least let go of it.
I just think this movie was too meta for some people who just wanna a “popcorn movie”. The craziest thing of all though is how most dislike the face that The Force Awakens was a retrace of A New Hope and wanted something new or different. Well you got what you wanted, but you hate on it because it’s not what you expected? Da fuck?
Here I tell you what, go take this 500 Mil and go make your on Star Wars movie. . .
Gotcha.