Uryo: Akuma, Seth and Abel seem strong. All chars now have bad matchups, team tournaments should be the most interesting format (over solo). Ryu is strengthened, still the icon of the series, yet unleashing his real power seems reserved to top players such as Umehara, Momochi.
Haneyama: boss fighter 2012.
Tonpy (Viper player): prefers AE2012 over current version.
Iori (elf): will at least sub Seth
Kok (Fei): Top tier is Sagat, C.Viper, Seth, Gouki, Cammy, Sakura, Adon - Mago: Sagat is back (does not say anything about his own char choice though). thx Oro for the translation.
I like that Sagat sounds so strong but still has a lot of bad matchups, even among the top tier (Seth, Adon, Viper, Akuma, maybe Fei still, etc). I can live in a world where Sagat is strong but still has to really earn it.
Anybody know how the 2012 update was given to arcades? Was it downloaded online, or updated physically via new hard drive/USB? How hard is it going to be for foreign arcades to get it, I wonder?
Fei can’t be anywhere near the top 5 anymore. It just doesn’t make sense. Good fundamentals only get you so far, after that the versions have proved you need either a solid mix up game, high damage output and/or decent Ultra set ups.
He’ll still be a great character, still viable, but believe me, If I don’t see Mago wearing Thai boxer shorts and an eye patch over that ginger mullet, I’ll shave my heed.
Fei is still the best character he has a ton of mixups Capcom hasn’t nerfed him enough, we’re still gonna see all these tier whore feis online and at tournaments.
Mix ups like what? His j.mp is about as ambiguous as it gets. If your getting mixed up by a Fei Long who now has no way to hit confirm a sweep, your definitely doing it wrong. The reason he’s so good now is because of his retarded damage and his standing jab, coupled with the fact the charge characters are all ass. Frame trap wise the risk of him running the second blocked rekka now is not worth the risk, same for the delayed rekka.
No more jab, regular damage, charge characters buffed, ergo…
Don’t get me wrong, he’s still well viable and a great character, rekka’s will always be a problem, but Fei Long’s straight forward, he can be lamed out quite easily if your character has the tools. He can’t open you up like Yun/Yang/Akuma/Viper etc.
LOL looks like your not playing him right, how can you not be able to play such and easy mode bs character
Anyways i can’t believe they haven’t given Ryu his 1 hit shoryuken back from vanilla, it was his trademark Srk from the ST days, also ultra 2 buff is usless he should be able to combo into it from a non counter hit ex hadouken.
Many players have said Sim is gonna be one of the better characters. Sim was good in AE, but Yun existed :P.
Rose imo, if you’re going by that list will be in B+, because her buffs in conjunction with a lot of the other character nerfs will allow her to rise up from the lowest tier :P.
Do you guys think the the update will allow us to choose between the three versions(SSF4, AE, AE2012) or will it just write over the AE DLC? I hope it lets us choose between the three.
entirely possible. shit, the entire low group that i made could just be mixed in with the next highest group by the time we figure the game out. but like i said earlier, i dont think which tier your character is in will matter as much. looks like everyone will have a bad match. it will more likely be about does your character have any exploitable matches to make for easy counter picks.
thats why i dont think that highly of sim. he has multiple matches where the other character gets in and kills him in a hurry.
Yang and Fei were just as bad.
Makoto had become bad, Viper was bad…
Add the fact that he did not beat strong characters aside from Sagat and he had many issues.
Him beating Ryu, Honda or Guile did not matter much in AE.
I dunno about you, but I think if they did allow it there would be like 3 seperate forums that would bitch and moan about every single part of SSFIV and than the song “I Predict a Riot” will soon come to reality… Worst Case Scenario.
I will say this though, even if they did allow it in AE 2012, I think that most people would flat out IGNORE IT, others may cling to it, or just don’t care… Like me, for instance, and well that’s because I’m too busy mentally preparing the changes for AE 2012 and finding new characters to experiment on and possibly replace my current main. A lot of characters have gotten stronger so I think ppl will stick to AE 2012 since its balance is something we could debate for many months to come… Until 2013 or SF5 comes.
They clearly stated it will overwrite AE and it’s for everyone
There won’t be a choice where you want to download it or not (well yes there will be but you know what I mean)
You will have to choose between Super and AE2012
I take back what I said about ken not being top 5. After watching and talking to kenzo, it seems like the buffs to his FTK, TC, and F.ST.HK have more then made up for his sweep nerf or, at the very least, left him on par with his AE version. I’m pretty sure Ken will be in the top 5 when the dust starts to settle on AE2012
I love it when scrubs rage at me for using top tier because then i can usually invite them to an endless lobby and rape them for a few matches with random select until they quit
