I believe it was RF who said that the twins were easy matchups for Sagat.
Lololol. Yun needs a teleport just as much as Rufus or Cammy does. Hahaha.
Unless all of yuns OS’s have been discovered and optimized for matchups, I don’t think we can really know how redonkulous he his compared to akuma yet.
But still don’t know why there is any debate who is top 3 for ae. (At least at this stage of the game). So how about we talk bottom tier instead?
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I believe the #1 Akuma in the world was quoted for the longest time saying how much he hated fighting against Yun. I’m not sure where he stands now, but that’s probably as close to 100% as you can get.
I don’t know what the score is in this match up, but the only thing I can gather from this is that good Sagat’s kill bad Yun’s.
dan, hakan, and gen.
im convinced as of now that gen will be bottom tier. the best arcade gen, amiyu looks pretty free against other top players. he’s got like a 83% win rate, but im sure hes farming weaker players or something. he got to like 50k bp which is good, but now he’s got like 5 characters with close to as many points. shows me that he dosent like getting blown up in all the team tourneys
gen just dosent have anything that really compensates for his low HP. for everything he has that is close to being good, there is another characer that can do that and have more life and some other cheap shit while doing it. the only way he would be better would be to get some serious damage upgrades, the TC’s he got are marginal improvements at best
im not saying gen is terrible, but why pick him when there are other characters that have his strengths plus more to offer.
dan and hakan are just too much of joke characters for a top player to take them seriously. so they just wont ever get fully fleshed out, and will be low tier because of it
I don’t know dude, Hakan’s got some shit. He’s got stuff no other character in the game can emulate. Way too much of it. You need to know how to fight Hakan if you want to fight a good Hakan. You need to know those tricks.
he’s also got no reversal
Yeah Hakan looks like he’s got some serious mindfuck potential in AE. And for real…with AE finally making its way out of the arcade and becoming more widely available we’re likely going to be seeing a bunch of new Hakan technology finding its way on the internet.
I dunno man, he just dosent seem to be worth a damn without oil. yes he’s interesting, but interesting wont win matchups
reversals dont make characters. you can be poor on wake up and still be a good character. chun li and AE makoto
Dan is a good shoto with mad mixups. Danku is anti-everything. You can’t focus vs Dan, you can’t anti-air him, you can’t throw or crouch tech him. You can’t press too many buttons. Plus he has decent footsies, stamina, strength and has a great backdash/reversal. Only thing he lacks is good zoning tools and hit confirms.
He’s really underestimated imo. I don’t think he deserves being bottom tier. He certainly isn’t high tier but I’d say he’s low mid. Like C or something.
As for Hakan, I dunno. It’s too early to say how he’ll do in AE. Not a lot of top players use him. Heard he got quite a few buffs.
HNIC Mike, I’ve really enjoyed and agreed with a lot of your posts on this thread.
I do agree with the people who say Hakan has potential. His normals are REALLY weird, and at least one of his ultras is pretty good (the one where he lies down). He can do some damage, too, with his grabs. Of course, if people get experience fighting Hakan, he probably wouldn’t be too good. But we all know almost no one actually is going to get that experience haha
On that note, Ryu is probably going to be a bit tough to win with in AE because he’s the weakest he’s been, so much weaker than in vanilla, and everyone knows all of his shit so well thanks to Daigo and the million Ryus we have all played against. Not saying he’s bottom tier by any means, but everyone knows the match up so well.
I don’t really know who is worse than Hakan other than, as you said, Dan and Gen. Dhalsim is hurting, but he was really good in console super so it seems really hasty to put him that far down. Elf, sadly, has got to be really bad in AE. Did Cody get nerfed much? If his damaged was nerfed at all, he’s probably shit, because he’s so slow and has near zero options when knocked down and absolutely zero without meter.
So guys, how about Sakura? That’s usually good for starting like three whole pages of arguing. 
Dan got hit confirms off 3-frame lk now. I thinking about picking him up in AE, real talk
Cody got nothing. 2 minor changes I think but it won’t really help him much. Honda and Cammy were nerfed so that might help him a bit but I don’t think he’ll climb in the tier list.
Not sure how he does vs the Twins. I think it’s in Cody’s favor. Nah just kidding he gets murdered. 
Cody’s new 3-frame short is probably a big deal at least to Bison. After blocked lk scissors, Cody could use cr.mk (among other things) to stuff most of Bison’s options, but it lost to Bison’s cr.short. Now that Cody has a 3-frame short, it seems like the braindead go to option to stop all of Bison’s momentum, because it will trade. Also, it’s special cancellable, so he can buffer Criminal upper afterwards if he connects.
I thought the match was pretty even in Super, but that small buff might give Cody the edge in AE.
SSFIV Theory Fighter Reboot.
Also how is 3 frame short for Cody a minor buff? He got way more punish ability, and it helps him vs. Fei/Boxer a lot.
Real talk high level dan play makes me say “HOLY COW”
Not hasty at all. a ton of characters below him are jumping and the twins spank him royally. Plus this is “supposed” to be capcoms last ditch effort for a rush down entry in the series. Hence down-back monsters have seen better days. He certainly aint bottom, but the best in the game are his toughest matches. NOT included are some of the shittier characters in the game that give him issues, just that no one really plays them (looking at you Juri). US Sims are going to have to learn to “rush down” kinda like some of those Jap dudes on the shinakuma replays…
^ Got any vids of a great rushdown aggressive Dhalsim? I always wanted to see that.
Yeah, should have kept links but basically there is some uncommon sim gameplay out there on the aggressive side. For sim that typically means he acknowledges he’s playing a character that he can’t keep out forever and he instead presses the advantage rather than run for 99 secs and risk a zoning mistake. He’ll stay in less than half screen and do alot of max distance slides or b. Mk xx flames/fires, will pressure you into the corner with light limbs and is willing to play games (not just u1) on your wake up. Unfortunately shit like this vs Yun.is… is… um yeah probably not a good idea.
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