hey… i thought mk hands loop was out of super?
It has to do with his wonky hitbox. Deejay also can’t be hit with crane j.mk c.lk c.lp reset. Nonthless it’s cool that Kokotsu has found this, though I can’t see this working on others.
I’ll have to try this on other characters. YOu have to use the MP version of hands to get it to work on DJ
please do, i would realy like to know who else it works with!.. man imagine mp mk hands loops worked one everyone. it’ll be like the old sf4 days… hehe!
It doesn’t.
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Try Abel or other big characters.
I’m going to also try MK, MP Hands, Sweep
no go, tried a few characters. MK Hands loop doesn’t work. nor does sweep, even on DJ
So I dunno if this is for every grappler. But Makoto just EX Command Grabbed me during Hands… WTF?
I’m pretty sure that’s impossible unless her active frame was during your startup frame. Also, hands have a tiny hitbox, so it could have been the reason why.
she may have been crouching. I’m going to check the replay to see wtf happened. but I hit her with MK Hands and first hit her than boom she Command Grabbed me.
hey. how the hell do you stop adon from randomly jaguar kicking. i think thats the right one. not when he goes to the wall, but the other one. i can whiff punnish them pretty well, but it seems like he gets free pressure from them at a certain range. and i dont have the best reactions online, so its really hard to dp them.
for those of you who have good success against him, i need help. is there a certain range i need to keep? is there a particular response to the pressure i should try?
Wait the Flash kick one(Jaguar Kick) or Rising Jaguar (DP Motion)? if it’s the Rising Jaguar, do not fall for it after he does his Jaguar Tooth (wall dive) that is a pretty common Flowchart move. A lot of Adon players stay in the air a lot. they will either try to cross you up or use the Jaguar Kick the flash kick one. Gekiro Beats that. If he jumps in, use Gekiro or Gen’s Crane c.HK.
A couple of things to add for Adon.
If he is block stringing you and then hitting his heel kick then Adon can choose to cross you up with his heel kick (after certain block strings the lk one always cross up on crouching opponents). Don’t go back dashing it - he’ll get you with the lk one and maybe the mk one. Beware his baiting you after the block strings ending in c.mp - if he does hk heel kick it will whiff short.
Make sure you play him with the sound on. If he doesn’t say Jagwah kick then you need to block it high (he can instant air it, kinda), and his EX one needs to be blocked high. The recovery on heel kick is bad but if he can hit it at the right distance then its really nowhere near as bad. Its one of his best pressure tools for those without a good reversal.
Do not be throwing out focus at mid-range in this match. You will eat s.hk.
Also, and I’ve not tested this, but if you are doing the Oga thing at the end of his block strings then he may be able to cancel instead into Jag Tooth and hit you. I reckon he’d win in that battle of wall kicks or it’d trade in his favour (read: he could get U2 out of it).
If he Jag kick FADC - crouch tech, his options are throw, another jag kick or block string. Time it right and you win.
Finally, beware him faking out the cross up. At good ranges the j.mk will cross up but the j.hk won’t.
the reverse flash kick looking shit. i can play the rest of the match well, but i cant stop him from spamming it during footsies. i could just block, but i feel like im giving him free pressure and chip damage
@HNIC Mike, yeah, thats kinda what I tried to address in my last post. A good Adon will abuse the hell out of it against characters without a good reversal. The only thing I try to do is to listen, if he doesn’t say jaguar kick I focus it and beat him down. Other than that its his best tool against us.
Unfortunately he can go anywhere from one character width to half screen with one. It really does suck that hard. Only if he misjudges the distance can you do anything about it.
I played him for a while and picked up some good habits. I know that its probably gonna be a crap connection but if you want practice and to level up against him I can play you if you don’t have anyone else nearer that can do the same.
If he uses it after a block string just Gekiro it.
The problem mainly comes if he makes you crouch block and then crosses you up with one. THAT is a real pain in the neck. I tried to WTF it but it always whiffed or it came out too late and I got hit.
If you do WTF kick it (not that easy on reaction to the start up) then next time if you try to psychic it you will eat jaguar tooth.
In footsies its really hard for us to do anything about it if he really knows what he’s doing with it. He also has an amazing s.hk, s.hp and s.mk. Its not that easy to take down a good one.
if he uses it when he’s in close, dash under, same with his cross up game. A lot of Adon’s like to block string then cross up. Just dash under and get away, regroup and force him to start again or change his game.