That would be an interesting thing to see. Maybe someone can do that at some point.
Fortune Cookie: “We don’t know who we are until we see what we can do.”
Gen is reaching out to me, guys.
From what I can see so far, MK hands will still be a dominant footsie tool for him, combined with the new c.MP hands (thought it seems to be hard to get all 4 hits connected at max range). His most effective range will stay there or it might get changed to max range of s.LP. TCs are there for you when you’re in close range with opponents which would, in turn, make c.MP xx Roll combo obsolete unless you want to keep pressuring the opponent without knocking them down. s.MP -> s.MK xx hands will still be viable seeing how his s.MP works very well as a meaty.
I hope they removed “AMATEUR” and “YOU CANNOT GUARD -” voice. Actually, I wouldn’t mind if he doesn’t have a single line where he talks except for some kind of quiet laughing part.
I’m not ignoring Gen’s buffs, it’s ok that he got some TC’s. It will certainly help with different sources of damage output, theorycrafting will have to be put on hold because unless Gen got additional points of damage on his normals then scaling will still be the same, just we end up with potentially maybe an extra 20-30 points of damage off a FADC, which is ridiculous.
My issue is that TC’s and the note of already cancel-able moves on the dev blog feels like they had their priorities of balancing Gen are out of line, either that or they saw too much work in re-balancing their mistakes and slapped some TC’s to make us happy, or they overlooked the problems and honestly thought this was a major buff. Both of those options give me a headache.
Seems to me if your gonna post major things like Abels ultra 2 nerfs, Makoto buffs there should have been a major change to Gen that was noteworthy, ie Jump arcs or Gekiro changes. Even a solid crane combo into roll would have been noteworthy, but I’m not seeing that, currently links into crane so you can roll are difficult to master with a very little payoff, if Crane C.Lp could link into C.Mp~Lp roll Gen would have a very much needed string in his crane arsenal, that’s all that I could potentially hope for at this point.
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I didn’t know Rufus was Australian!
Sf4 - Gen, Gouken, Blanka
Ssf4 - Gen, Blanka, Gouken
SSF4A- Gouken PERIOD…unless gen gets some damn damage
I’ve met him, he’s awesome. 
But unfortunately this is how I talk, dot pointing things at this stage aren’t going to get the full message of the problems at hand out there, there is a reason for asking what we are asking and hopefully other people can single it out from all the other complaints every other character has. Sorry guys if you have a hard time reading my responses but this is the best I can do, I know it’s unheard of that theres long ass posts on forums like these but sometimes you need to go into detail to get your message across.
“Gen sucks, buffs not right, change him plz” doesn’t do the problem the justice it deserves.
I think you’re the first one I know of who hates his lines. =/
I don’t hate the lines themselves xD, but I don’t like the fact that he has lines at all. Silent Assassin my ass. I hate some of his win quotes, but that’s probably just me.
change your language settings. That was the first thing I did on both Vanilla and SSF4. When you cant understand it, it just falls off into the background. Plus it sounds cooler in Japanese.
I cant stand; “You cannot dodge what you cannot see”
Every time I play on a set-up that has English I just cringe at his lines.
oh man i just saw this…
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good old times
maybe… just maybe… it will happen again!?!
The old man must return, he must…
i hope so i need more good tourney gen videos so i can learn from, same thing goes with Cody although i dont think i can get the whole notation of when i should use a frame trap while watching a good Cody video. my pressure sucks with him so much.
I actually enjoy both JPN and US voices for Gen…it makes me believe he is somewhat of a smart ass like myself whenever he shouts out “Amateur” but if they were to take it out then maybe the devs could give him his air grab (alpha series) back =)
The voices themselves are okay, I just wanted him to be more silent like Alpha version, but oh well, I’m sure they wouldn’t remove any since he’s literally a different character (I actually hate one of the win quotes about the netherworld, both in NA and JPN voices).
I just checked wiki, and Dudley MP part in LP xx MP TC isn’t cancelable to anything, so when I hit the lab I’m going to try s.LP xx s.LP xx s.LP xx s.MP xx s.MK xx uppercut. If uppercut cancel works, then most likely Gen’s new TC1 works after mashing c.LK and then you can cancel into LK Gek (IF it hits) or other stuffs. No more point in ending a jab/short mash with s.LK provided it works that way.
I can’t get mk hands, but c.mp hands is simple. Any tips? I would guess it’s the fact that kick isn’t on the same line as the punch buttons that gets me. As for a Gen player to watch, I’ve been watching all of The Hoigek’s, he seems pretty solid.
Crouching Mp~Hands and standing Hp~hands are simple in that its all punchs, and some characters like Chun and Honda it’s the same, Honda can cancel off of lk but 95% of the time it’s going to be off of a lp. Anyhows, check out the Gen video thread and look on youtube for Gen Mk Hands suggestions by Jibbo if im not mistaken.
The Gen Video thread also has the recorded Norcal stream where Nubbb did really well in beating Marn, Valle and nearly taking down Mike Ross as well, in a teams match. Otherwise keep an eye on Hoigek’s videos, maybe look up Glassy 123 or Myself on Xbox Live Replays, there are some early Videos of my Gen on Youtube when I was just starting out, Mk~ hands is tough to learn so keep with it.
Most people I’ve talked with have taken anywhere between 2-3 months to get it 100% and then there’s FADCing which will take more time >.< I’ll say that my method is using my thumb for the Mk and sliding with my middle finger from Hp-> Lp -> Hp. Works for me but I still know people who piano it, I’d say this is a harder cancel simply because of the window for cancel on Mk is so short, will take time but hope there’s enough info here to help.
Otherwise check the Gen forum. I’m sure there’s a library on this somewhere 
Mk hands isn’t a game breaking tactic as much as it used to be, but its still good to know. If you use a ps3 pad, heres a quick video of doing it in one of the many ways.
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I’m practising this method, sort of got it down but I’m not consistent yet:
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Except I don’t use my thumb, I just use the index finger for both buttons. Works for me (sort of) but yeah I can relate - it is WAY more tricky than c.mp hands.
As for Gens to watch - check out the video thread for Nubbb and Nightwalkers videos. Profecery and Rokotsu are the two other great japanese Gens. The 0Shinakuma0 channel has a bunch of japanese Gen videos. Bayarea510 has a lot of videos on youtube too.
^^^ not arcade changes…
…but also not whining so eh!