No it won’t. They must have known this in development. Seth’s hitbox is different. Hk will not connect, but cr mk will connect without strict timing for the knockdown. I guess that’s the trade.
Im actually very suprised at some of these, but I have no doubt that you know these matchups much better then I. I look forward to a more detailed break down.
Zangief sure seems like a stand out, he certainly seems like a much easier match up to me ATM (6-4 for Duds, same with Hawk), same for Cody, and Dictator is one of my most difficult matchups, almost right up there with Chun/Boxer. I will mark these differences up to my relative inexperience when compared to you though… ;p
Actually, if your uploading some vs shoto vids (huzzah, would love to see that to be sure), I would kill for some insight into the Dictator matchup, st rh and scissor loops are the fucking bane of my life right now… (and Rufus, fucking fat bastard…)
I really can’t see why Dudley-Chun would be a harder MU than Ryu. Certainly she has the tools to keep Dud out, just like the Dhalsim MU, but give the big guy 8 seconds in the proper range and it’s basically gg.
Now Ryu has win button to keep us out and even if we get in the range, he’ll probably have a decent life lead and plenty of get-off-me move fadc to unload, so it’s even at best at close range.
Zangief can pretty much win with one button if he can help it. s.mp beast your everything, and you have to be on point hitting it back with s.hp cause its hard as shit to do so. u cant OS c.mp xx mgb cause its SPD punishable, hell going for c.mp puts in in SPD by itself. jumping in on him is a guess cause he can crouch lariat which is a trade in his favor cause now he has oki. gief should never jump in on you beacuse he has ground dominance. it’s pretty much a battle of attrition but it will swing in your favor if you catch a few lucky s.hp’s on him cause then he has to start approaching you and that puts you at advantage.
Why is Chun considered 7-3? She can’t jump at you at all and s.hp can beat all of her pokes if timed well besides cr.mk/cr.lk and those don’t have the range of the other ones. You can kinda jump at her if she doesn’t have charge/ultra. And she has to hit you more than you have to hit her because s.hp doese 130 damage and she has lower health. The only really annoying things I see are her backdash because you can’t consistently OS it and her fireball.
Everyone is going to have there different opinions on matchups I do believe ryu is the hardest for dudley. I think gief is in dudleys favor and viper is pretty free because you can punish any burning kick you duck under with RT. I would feel the same about fei because you can punish any ducked chicken wing with RT, but he has amazing pokes soo thats pretty even. As far as chun is concerned that match up is a beezey it seems to me like you have to level one focus at least 2 of her pokes to get a life lead then the match up becomes more bearable.
I find the st hp and some of Duds bigger target combos allow for me to control the pace of the match while avoiding SPD pain, if he jumps hes fucked, if he throws out a green hand he eats massive damage, its a boring fight, but one I almost never have issues with, but again, thats just my current experience, I may just not be fighting any good Giefs, lol. (pretty much ditto for Hawk on how this plays out)
Dictator though, damn, he pisses me off, and Rufus/Kuma are nightmarish. (Kuma’s pathetic health is a saving grace in that matchup, 2 combos = win)
This. I don’t have a problem with Rufus though. How can he beat Dudley besides EX Messiah Kick?
I have a very hard time getting him off me once he is up in my face, and Jesus kicks are amazing still, and U2, oh god, and U1 is still hella easy to hit confirm. Dude is god mode, I am at a loss for what to do once he gets in, meaty dive kicks beat everything outside of an ex jet upper.
I’m still having trouble with rose… man i hate that B****… i’m going to upload some of my vids if it’s ok with you guys, and hopefully you’ll help me with trouble.
I don’t have too much trouble with rufus. St.hp the dive kicks when he’s trying to get in, st.mk if he tries to do late ones. St. hp hurts rufus a lot more than his dive kick even if it trades and because of his low stun so he can’t take many of those. Os tech with the crouch hp makes him think a little more about his pressure. Safe jump os cross counter will beat wake up ex messiah. You can safe jump the fuck out of rufus. After a dash upper, forward dash then forward jump=safe jump on rufus, balrog, and probably a few other characters. Plus there is his safe jump off of forward throw. I might start picking rolling thunder for this matchup because you can reversal his cr.hp with it limiting his footsies options. I don’t think corkscrew cross is as good because using it as an anti air is hard against rufus since he can vary his jump so much and dive kick can beat it at certain angles. But I haven’t tried U1 in this matchup I just learned this in training mode. Going to try it out today though probably.
if he’s whiffing s.rh/s.mp in your face, you can counter poke with s.rh OS ex mgb for big damage/reset the screen/push him to the corner. s.fp also stuffs df.rh and d.mk to some degree. While gief has good pokes, he’s definitely doesn’t dominate the ground game vs dudley.
outside of bliocking/ex jet upper/cc/ultra his full range j.fp owns everything else dudley tries to do.so make sure you stay out of that range. c.fp is your friend vs all his other jump ins.
Ha!
I totally wasnt trying that, I keep forgetting how insane CC can really be!
Nice, if I can make them scared to EX Messiah on wake up I can open up the can of whoop ass, thanks for that little tid bit!
Just to let you know the safe jump has to be really good because otherwise you could get counter hit.
uh…I’m still waiting on Vega advice.
I dont know if this is known. But i didnt see it at the top. Anyway Able’s ultra II can’t grab dudley, when he is in his full swing blow animation (going back and forth, the actual punch can be grabbed). When Able tries to catch me after i jump, i ex-fsb as soon as i hit the ground. Saved me a couple of times already. Also usefull when he does it on wake-up. This turned the matchup around for me so… Hopes this helps people that didnt know already 
Full Swing Blow?
do you mean Back Swing Blow… or Short Swing Blow… the HCB + K move!
This thing has too many names.
Anyway, good info.
How exactly is this OS CC thing performed exactly?
You do the safe jump, then immediately input the Ultra command. The idea is that if the opponent backdashes, Ultra will come out and hit him; otherwise, nothing happens.
HCB + K Yes, oh yea its short swing blow :). It realy work though, tested it and am using it in matches.