SSF4 Akuma thread

^ this. Usually, when people talk about Sagat being “broken”, it’s because they think he’s too good, too powerfull. Is there another reason why people say this? Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure it takes plenty of skill to use him. But the sad fact is that a lot of beginners can have an easy time by picking Sagat because his power and health advantage over another character like say, C. Viper or Akuma for instance which may have a more varied toolset, but are more difficult to use correctly (at least IMO) and have a health disadvantage.

There wasn’t a different meaning in either my posts. It was both to say the same thing: avoid making Akuma become overly powerfull (and so “broken”) by making his ultra connect more and/or giving him a health boost, etc (I.E. Don’t buff him!!). When I first started playing SFIV, I would’ve agreed with some here that his Ultra is useless, but now that I know how to use it, it’s actually an amazing asset and a real game changer when he has revenge meter. That said, I think it would be actually pretty neat if Akuma was more like Gouken who, even though he’s supposed to be a Shoto character, plays so much differently than either Ryu or Ken (or Akuma). Though I guess that would probably be another way to “break” him…

Oh well… Ya can’t win! LOL

I’m still new to the game but I think these are reasonable improvements to Akuma:

  • Ultra doesn’t feed the opponent so much super bars, sometimes I think twice before landing an ultra on Ryu, that damn super of his can really hurt you in the next round!
  • HP is fine as it is IMO since Akuma can do very damaging combos, but it would be nice to raise his stun to around 900 instead of 850.

f.hk is pretty disgusting. You can utterly rape characters using that one normal.

make it so st. hk doesn’t whiff on any character.
faster dive kick.

I would like for j. down mk to be a little faster or have a tiny bit more hit- and blockstun to make it more viable.

It would also be cool if they removed the voice sample during demon flip startup. Its pretty easy to distinguish a demon flip from a normal jump, so that would increase the mixup potential a little.

Apart from that hes fine.

Or players who don’t know you can stuff it.

You can stuff lk. scissors but that doesn’t make it easy to deal with.

scissors are way harder to deal with than hk. That shit is safe on block, right?

I like having to work to land my ultra. I don’t want no fadc>ultra.

Both are +/- 0 on block.

f.hk cannot be canceled from a normal, but it has a faster startup and leads to combos.

True, but scissors never whiff crouching opponents and works far or close. But this is neither here nor there, they are both good moves, and neither is ‘broken.’

Pretty sure it’s done purposely for that exact reason.

The same thing with me being able to listen for Giefs punch lariet and get a free demon on it.

I bet most characters have sound specific moves… you just don’t notice them.

I think that they should make him transform to Shin Akuma by using his Ultra to the max… LOL

I agree but if they did that, do you know how many Misogi whores we’ll have running around out there?..it I great move and I love it but I don’t want it to become a disadvantage towards others unless they make a way out of it besides jumping:china: If they brung the superfireball back, that would be a great touch

Oh $#@%, that would be freaking great!!! or just make him into a useable character:wow:

sf4 is to much about balance its never gonna have a shin akuma or the like. especially an ultra like misogi its too ambiguous to use u can seriously throw that out and have the opponent guess where its gonna land. meanwhile u urself dont know either.

**I just had a thought.

Wouldn’t it be nice if you could cancel Demon Flip in mid air with a PP command. like Viper’s seismic hammer?

Thats shit there would make him Jesus.

fantasizes about canceled D. Flip into tatsu**

:wow::wow::wow:

This

How do you figure he is fine? please in what way is he fine enough not to give him some upgrades and a combo able ultra or/and super? I swear some people in here needs to just stop posting and clearly do some serious research on specific characters. If your not a serious dedicated Gouki player then don’t post in here.:nono:

Akuma IS fine, that’s just it. He’s top tier, I’m sure he’ll get some new shit anyway. He’s going to get a new ultra, that’s enough for me.

Personally, I’d rather keep the super demon than the ultra demon.

hell yea, but also make sure to refill his life gauge when he transforms so we won’t die in a hit.