SSF4 AE Zangief Changes, Videos, Match-up Discussion

excuse me ,but doesn’t that video show you exactly how useless u2 is against ex headbutt, which is Honda s only good anti air?
butt splash ? I don’t think any good Honda will use that vs gief as anti air

Um dude, those two SB misses were off a whiff lp GH oki, the second of which would have landed if he executed it lower to the ground. That was NOT!!! an AA situation. Also, notice how many times Gief can land a j.mk on Honda. Spaced and timed right it makes it very difficult for him to AA, and once you have u2 loaded it becomes a scary situation for him.

You my friend are failing to realize the power of the ultra is not in landing it, its making Honda think TWICE before he just goes on auto-pilot with EXHB’s for AA’s.
Also, butt splash timed late is a decent AA and more Honda’s are using it situationally since jab.HB got nerfed. It will also obviously blow up empty jump spds.

Does it matter if zangief is better or worse in AE? Just play another character if you don´t like him anymore, his playstyle is still unique and he is fun.

He always has been a terrible tournament pick due to loopsided matchups and in this game if u dont play yun/yang/fei you are not going to win tournaments consistently so it doesn´t really matter, you should be thankful zangief is at least viable.

Also lol @ gief footsies not being good, and I don´t know what do u mean by giving him his short back, you can still prevent people from jumping away with shorts.

And yeah, ALL the top zangiefs use u2 against honda but it´s useless.

When did the zangief forums become a cry fest? This is really pathetic, less forums and more playing.

This.

I’m so sick and tired of sswyu’s crying. He does nothing but cry. I don’t know why he even visits the gief forums. Or maybe he’s just crying in all the threads he visits. I’m not quite sure why anyone keeps giving into his trolling either. If you hate AE gief that much, just leave this place and be done with it. There are 38 other characters you could be playing! Holy crap, just quit your damn crying.

lol, crying???
the reason I keep saying zangief is shit because some idiots including some idiot commentators keep saying how zangief is good against twins, how he got buffed, misleading the ignorant scrubs.
gootecks even recommend using zangief and T.HAWK( you believe that?) to counter yun on the live stream
just when itabashi beat someone’s scrub yun on the stream.

LOL, I remeber vangief gets beaten by yun both in team and single in the recent tournament, and the Feilong is also giving him big trouble.and that’s just some week 1 or week 2 yun against a 2 years top level zangief.

if you guys still remember I said chunli and honda was going to be zangief’s new nightmare when they just announced super change, especially chunli. probably the 1st one to say that. because chunli honda is not such brutal MU in vanilla
and how it goes??
chunli became a legendary counterpick, and zangitan is pretty much free against a good chunli.

Some people is just smart enough to see through things on day one. the majority , don’t.

And I said Oni is the new horrible MU. Twins have advantage against zangief, most people dont agree with me at that time.
Mark my words, see what it pan out 6 month later, maybe not even need 6 months, LOL.

yea, Oni seems like a terrible MU for Zangief. I don’t think Zangief can even jump at all against oni. But no use in crying about what capcom does to grapplers now. Either stick with Gief, move on to another character, or just quit the game.

Vangief lost due to lack of knowledge he didn’t know on reaction ex hand or lariat stops dash punches which he did lose to.

Sent from Hueco Mundo using Garganta Talk.

In round 2 if Itabashi had pulled Zangief into the corner instead of towards Honda when he launced U2 it would have caught him. Honda technically wasn’t off the ground when U2 got activated but it could have connected.

Also so what if ex gh has no knockdown anymore? Without it, you force your opponent to guess what your next move is; they backdash you can catch them with with another gh (ex or not, it’ll knockdown either way if you hit them in the dash), they jump back you can buffer U2 from the ex gh and snag them out of the air, or they stay put and you can grab them with a SPD.

I completely agree with Flash and Trini, Zangief is much more deadly AND interesting than before.

He’s a decently bad matchup. Once you learn to deal with his amazing long range pokes he’s a kitten though.

Yea of course. Oni’s wakeup Game is shit. Once gief gets a knockdown it’s pretty much over for Oni.

who said his footsies werent good? people neglect to read lol again. right … crlk keeps people from jumping away lol consistently goood luck with getting that shit down lol. ALL THE TOP LEVEL GIEFS IN AE HAVE LOST TO HONDA WITH U2 … show some facts of gief beating a honda in tournament in ae with u2.

Also for those people talking about people crying… NONE OF YOU FUCK HEADS HAVE CONTRIBUTED ANYTHING TO THESE FORUMS WITH SOLID INFO… ONLY U2 IS GOOD VS THESE CHARACTERS BUT YOU NEVER SEE ANYONE GETTING CAUGHT WITH THAT SHIT AFTER ONE MONTH OF AE

DID YOU NOT SEE THE MATCH vs itabashi … i fucking swear man, people refuse to accept the facts. Mike ross rarely ever used his charged moves, RARELY… HE BEAT HIM WITH PURE GROUND NORMALS .i see why ultradavid,renegade,vance, don’t waste their time here anymore because no matter how thoughtless something may seem people will … be like there’s that 0.001% chance that it might work so… yeah it works lol

Wow final cry cry cry. Switch to yun please. All you talk about is how bad gief is just drop him.
So were you able to win with him in ssf4 because I never saw you rank at any tourneys are the people you used to own in ssf4 now beating you in ae. Or is this all because now you are seeing vids of the Japanese gief who are not that good IMO losing because it’s not vanilla anymore. I’m sorry the gods of zanitan and ibi-who the fuck cares are getting owned it’s not gief they just are not that good deal with it.

I don’t know, if anything, I’d say the lack of participation would be mostly due to all the crying going on. When every other post on here becomes a some crying rant, what’s the point in even visiting the gief forums?

listen man… your ass and How you play zangief is a disgrace… don’t go there bro please.Also, no one is crying, i’m talking about facts how is that crying, also until you have contributed here please don’t talk

Well I never see you winning shit so you can call me a disgrace but when was the last time you went to a major and did something. Igot 17th at ufgt losing in winners semi’s of my pool to pr balrog and then losing in losers finals to juciebox have you ever place top 20 at a major. Unless I missed something I don’t think no one cares that your good at links your still just a stream monster till you get some wins.

I’m done feeding trolls.

they even said it back in vanilla, when gief was awesome why they don’t contribute anymore, so it goes waaaaay before people are so called crying about the gief changes in ae. Because people would, no matter how scrubby it was would try and justify scrubby strats.If anyone doesn’t want to hear people speaking the truth then you can deny it all you want bro. i have gave alot of time and effort into the zangief forums and i guess towards you guys that doesn’t amount to anything. even when the gief forums was dead during super, i tried to revive to get people to play gief, so its not even that i don’t like gief in ae, it’s just some of the things people say are pretty damn stupid… like u2 vs honda is good, or j.mk at honda is good when honda meter or not has answer for giefs jump attacks as seen in the video. I mean, if people want me to find more videos to prove how it’s not that good is in that match up.

oh, shit i’m sorry but at ufgt, i didn’t see your name anywhere lol . good shit though making shit up… As for me, i live for myself and not a video game. Also, i don’t live with mommy and daddy that pays for everything for me, and sit at home playing street fighter for hours with nothing to show for it. Stream monster …nice shot but try again bp your trash all you rely on is gimmicks you just rely on whiff lariat command throw or crlk lariat … i don’t get how can you be playing a character for 3 yrs and still can’t do basic shit and lets just say if you did get top 17, it took you 3 yrs in one tourny and who knows who the fuck was in your bracket, NO ONE ON HERE RESPECTS… DON’T YOU GET WHY MOST PEOPLE IGNORE YOUR POSTS LMAO.

So many bitching post man the fuck up and move on changes happened crying isn’t changing shit.

I think the point is if not so many people misleading about zangief’s MU in public occasions, I would not go all out to say that much about zangief.
like in the shadowloo stream , some idiot commentator said zangief vs honda is honda’s bad matchup. another idiot in the stream said zangief vs dhasilm is dhasilm’s bad matchup.
all these bullshits. all these idiots know is – no fireball or no free escape?? — zangief has advantage.

They are forgivable, because they know no shit about zangief most of the time.
What shocked me is even some gief player thinks their gief gets buffed.and if you asked them based on what they think of that, they make example of scurbs’ play, but sadly all top zangief’s AE videos prove otherwise.and Japanese Aracad BP list proves othewise. and so far no zangief player has sezied a position in SBO 2011.

As far as ultradavid concerned, I think he made his point of view quite clear in the previous posts. you guys should read it again if you like.

and now you are the one worrying about getting grabbed,not your opponent.
LOL,