3 bars, blech. Unless it leads into Ultra 2, I’d rather save those other two. Kthx.
Also if you’re throwing out random EX walldives…uhm…stop that.
why wouldnt it be able to cancel into U2 that would make no sense at all seeing that we can go into U2 after a juggle CH
We can, but there’s been no confirmation of people being able to do it.
Just because it LOOKS like it should be able to do that, doesn’t necessarily mean it will.
I was just about to ask that…has anyone ever performed this?
Is there any videos?
Didnt read past the first page but it seems im the only person hyped for i-frames on EX ST. Now everybody has to use 4 frame safejumps on Vega when he gets knocked down. Respect…feels good.
Oh and a nerfed backdash but buffed forward dash? Dash up kara’s will be the ultimate lol for me. Poke the shit out of someone and scare them into not pressing buttons > dash up kara throw. And a c.mp comboable-mp.rcf? Ill take the nerfed walldive if all the buffs are true.
is there any videos of ANY of the new footage yet. just calm down man im going off of the new updated info.
Hmmm… I dunno about all this.
Who cares about weakening his backdash. Option selects make backdashes not useful in the situations you want them the most.
Sure, i-frames on scarlet terror means that the armies of intermediate players you play can’t jump in for free with a huge-ass safe jump window, but it will always be 100% useless against top players who use perfectly timed and spaced crossups on your wake-up all day every day.
I-frames on a charge move aren’t as good as i-frames on motion moves because you can’t mash constantly. If you mash an EX ST and your opponent used a true block string you lost your charge and can’t mash another for 45 frames of which they might slip that tick throw in.
Nerf on Ex wall dive is a true nerf… no Claw players can argue there.
If MP RCF has faster startup (and can be combo’ed off of c.strong) that is a very true buff.
So in conclusion:
- EX ST buff helps a lot at intermediate level and the noob level but not really so important at high level play.
- Backdash nerf hurts at intermediate and noob level but not so much at pro level because they are going to alway OS you when you need your backdash the most.
- EX FBA nerf all around sucks
- MP RCF startups all around rocks
Claw was mid-tier in Super. Had he not been such a pussy against rush down, he would have been high tier.
I wish they would have only made minor buffs to help against rush down and for the most part left him alone.
where did they say that his c.mp can combo into m.rcf?
They never said that, just that it couldn’t be combo’d off of cr. jab, and someone said “well if it can combo from cr. mp” then everybody else kinda assumed
JDH Option Selecst are the least of Vega’s worries
People don’t have to use them against him at all
KKK Flip completely dodges most OS’, so if people want to think about option selecting, well they don’t really need to. Most of the time just a jump in into shorts / jabs / overheads / ticks will take care of any problems. If Vega backdashes, well they’ll probably just jump again, or, at least, Vega’s just putting himself further in the corner.
EDIT: This is why this site is fucked up. Everyone just wants their character to be top tier. Lame ass. As to the guy who said you can’t win tournaments with Vega, never ever stopped me once.
Meh, ppl know my stance. I’m pretty sure it’s redundant for me to say anything. Here’s to hoping they just leave him the way he is.
Who said you can’t win tournaments?
I almost won my first one xD
This’ll just make it easier, i think ;_;
Where are you guys getting this info from? How is backdash nerfed? and Why the hell would they nerf it if it is? How did they buff his forward dash? and comboable mp RCF?
I will be sad if they nerf my Ex FBA. Hopefully its only a minor nerf.
if m.RCF can be comboed off c.mk xx c.mp or c.lp xx c.lk then all is well
Yeah, its never been explicitly said, but if MP ‘goes forwards as quickly as the weak version’ then that could mean they have similar startup.
Again, it is assumption that may be false as well as it is true.
Reversals are not a get out of free card. All it means is that now they have to respect you.
@Francys
when Cammy Rufus are jumping in on you there is no thinking involved. its guess is he going to throw, or do what. You guess your way out or you wait it out.
@JDH
its more useful than you think. invul frames. Now they have to Respect you and your wake up. NO more free pressure. It has to be safe jumps, which limits options, which is good. Know every knock down is not a big deal, and you still can retain your momentum.
@Lax
sure, but its not about match ups its about options. Its about not being free every time you get knocked down.
Yo, this just in: Jai has a Seth Dakimakura (Body pillow) he humps every night. 
You avatar keeps changing. I’m rofling XD
What can I say?
It’s the astral testicles 
Vega is now completely fucking retarded tier.
With a strong wakeup, he now has absolutely no weaknesses. He’s always had amazing ground and air priority, good combo potential (though it can be hard to land full-fat combos with him), good keep away/runaway, but now he’s lost the one weakness that kept him from being stupid: no wakeup options.
So? I mean its not like he is not going to be unbetable. Now you have what you called well rounded balanced character. I mean even if he becomes omfgwtfbbqftw tier, he isnt going to be any stronger than the next top tier. I mean even in games like 3s the top tier didnt always equal victory. I do feel bad for Sagat and Seth. Those two are not getting any love.