SSF4 AE Vega Changes

Really?

Really?

REALLY?

What do people get out of that ~____~

LOL wow

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we have a web redemption!!! This thread just turned godlike.

ShadowOS you dirty little slut, what you just did is the web equivalent of a reversal scarlet terror into a bait trap. you are heading straight to losers bracket There. Seriously folk add potassium bromide to your diet.

tag… you’re it

Quick questions for all you guys, as I have not found a comprehensive list anywhere and I’m too lazy to sift through 32 pages.

  • does EX ST have any invincibility?

  • is there any change to izuna drop damage?

No on both accounts.

sadface :[ was really hoping for a viable reversal

I got AE at my school, so if anyone wants something to be tested let me know. I haven’t really dived into testing changes that were not revealed, so the brainstorming would help me test things.

yo so we finally got it in seattle

I think U1 is the main ultra to use

cr. fwd is awesome haha

i don’t know if you can do this in Super but today i Ultra 1 towards bison/honda ex psycho and headbutt and beat them clean basically reacting like a fireball.

still need to practice ex roll fadc U1 to see it connects but if someone already answer this theory please tell me what was the outcome

also crossed up U1 a crouch blocking cammy today going to try and see if there is set ups for it

and what are his new combos?

thanks you guys been away from the forums so i don’t know shit about AE vega = ) later

hey man!
vega’s ex rcf can be linked into crmp which inturn can be canceled into an izuna drop( character specific i think)

thats honestly all i know.

anways, im just curious, do you know of the once really well regarded seattle ryu player? the guy who used to post those great tutorial vids? that guy still plays the game? after one year of being inactive he randomly uploaded a video of him eating barbeque, i was like wtf! hahahah!!

u1 beating headbutt may be because of a hitbox change, or it probably beat it in the first place. Bision’s ex psycho crusher I can explain. It’s already possible in super, because ex pyscho crusher is considered a projectile.

i haven’t played AE…but watching all the new interviews from sygacity, they say AE is more offensive based and kinda leaned away from charge characters…so are we vegas fucked? vega didn’t exactly all of a sudden become a rushdown character…

ooooookay.

not to be a debby downer or anything but i guess some of you havent been paying attention

we already know everything about ae vega, sorry. vega is shittier than before

u1 is better for more much ups than it was in super imo, but u2 is still keeps mouth breathers away from reckless jump ins. its anti-crossup abilities are almost null now, however.

c.forward is cute, yes

u1 is anti fireball, bisons ex-pc = fireball. works in super. ex-st also destroys ex-crusher. i didnt know about it working on hondas headbutts though. to me it doesnt seem like it would work but i guess ill try that out on my own

vegas dashes were not improved at all. ex-rcf is now +4 on hit so do the math. if it was 2 or less frames away from being possible in super, then it is now possible in ae.

u1 could always cross up. it’s harder to cross up than ex-fba since the hitbox is smaller, but you can still do it. one set up is after a successful izuna drop, immediately slide towards the opponent. wait a brief moment (a couple frames), then execute. someone in my scene taught me that one. cool dude.

vega has no new combos other than linking c.mp or s.rh after ex.rcf. it’s surprisingly easy for a 1 frame link
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and to quickly recap for those who may have missed it by living under a rock:**

ch is terrible and 0 on block at very max distance. anything else and you are in the negatives, aka your opponent gets a free block string, srk, or command grab

ex.st does not have invincibility

ex.rcf is +4 on hit. use your head to know what that means for combos

c.mk is now 6 frames. this does not introduce any new combos. it is better for harassment and can combo into itself on counter hit

all hitboxes are unchanged. anything bad from super is still present in ae (wonky hitboxes, whiffs)

u2 is 1 or 2 frames longer. crap for any crossup that’s half decent and you may miss some anti-jump in attempts now too

sir i dont know which series you’re playing but in sf4 vega was always fucked

Vega was actually a strong character in Super. In AE, he’s mediocre at best but he can still compete. If you were able to hang in Vanilla days rocking the claw, you should have no problem here.

He can already do this in Super. Just Sayin’

Personally, I agree with Kouryuu, that he was a strong character in Super. If anything, I considered him perfect (by my standards anyway, okay so U1 needed to go back to how it was in vanilla where he didn’t lose it before he got to the wall, but that was my ONLY gripe with him).
Maybe I was just happy feeling so many buffs aftr scraping by in vanilla and was just content with that.

Well…I may be able to play this in May since I’ll finally be going up to London then. I’m waiting for the moment where I forget about the CH nerf and get punched in the face XD

meaty cr.mk, cr.mk, cr.mp will probably be viable. 2 frame links. you just need a setup to hit the low forward meaty.

^mashed shoryu beats it at anything other than max range, i tested that specifically today against a mashing scrub :frowning: -3 is such a joke and at the range where shoryu beats it id think it’s even more in the negatives the closer you are, though capcom never mentioned it. logically it would be, right?

@koryu i think it will be a harder fight than in vanilla. i miss ch so much ;_;

vanilla was terrible because the claw/mask loss was too painful, and damage output was low before we had the c.mk>c.mp>exfba combo work on everyone… ae is terrible because (as i keep bitching) the precious ch is gone. it’ll be a different kind of bad. not sure if it’s a lateral movement but i feel it will be more difficult than vanilla since damage opportunities have been stripped. it’s definitely against many people’s core style with vega

francys, when was the last time i said i wanted to stick my tongue down your throat?

Shadow Stfu, seriously… there’s shit thats funny at times and there’s just plain retardation and overkilling it.