tatsu i would still say that the cosmic heel nerf is extremely unfair,although you could loosely categorize it as a braindead move,i would argue that vega just like every other character in the game deserves a safe move of that kind.not to sound too pessimistic but chars like feilong and chunli are definitely going to be a lot more tougher now.
As if them Chinese fucks weren’t tough enough already. >_>
And I sound bad saying that because I’m part Chinese o_O
are there any tatsu vids? all the vega vids so far sucked
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forward dash looks pretty quick to me.
You know, I hate to be a pessimist, but when super first landed, FlashMetroid very adamantly asserted that Viper was better even though she received less i-frames on fierce tk and less stun on all versions of tk and burnkick. Her c.strong was buffed considerably which gave her a good ground game buff. He felt the improved ground game made up for the changes.
A few months later he temporarily dropped her saying she ‘wasn’t worth it.’ He did a total 180 from his original position.
That’s why I don’t want to jump on the happy train just because Tatsu, North America’s #1 Vega, thinks he was ‘buffed overall’. If FlashMetroid did a full 180 after a few months of playing, Tatsu could very well do the same.
He doesn’t play Viper anymore?
He eventually returned to her. But he did drop her for a while. He is currently playing her again.
Ahh I see
I don’t know why, but i’m not too concerned about these changes. Maybe i’ll get slapped in the face when i hit the arcade next month.
I trust tatsu judgement. Considering some bad matchups got nerfed and c. Mk buff I think its a better fit for Vega. Flash m is salty who cares. Wolfkrone doesn’t bitch Lo and behold he is now a more effective viper.
That’s just the thing. I think we all trust Tatsu’s judgement. But I trust Flash’s judgement as well. I’m not saying he’s wrong, its just that one night of playing isn’t enough, not even for top players, to create an accurate assessment.
It’ll take awhile for the the match ups to digest. Our six frame c.forward could be huge, but it could be something that players eventually find out counter strategies that render it not-so-consequential.
Everything looks faster in that video. Cant really really see a 2 frame difference especially with a shitty quality video.
Anyone can form an opinion based on what we’ve seen so far but no one really knows. Im betting that vega is worse off and at best doesnt move from his current tier position but i doubt that.
nah
pretty sure vega is better now you guys!
i can’t possibly be wrong. i’m tatsu
now that you’re putting it that way, i sort of feel reassured!
i played a first to 5 vs haitani on the console today, the dude didnt know the matchup at all lol.
Thats good to hear, but it seems like Capcom didn’t fix the flaws of the character that will never get him past mid-tier.
I still remember James Chens word as you played (at SCR?) saying something like Tatsu is an extremely intelligent player with only his choice of character holding him back.
Thats sad, but true to an extent.
Maybe Vega doesn’t need those things as a character but he very well needs at least I-Frames on ST in this game to be really competative.
Seeing how much buffs the low tier characters have gotten I don’t think Vega will even be mid-tier (if thats all changes we know so far).
Don’t get me wrong, I will be playing Vega in AE (if I still play SF4 when AE hits consoles), but we will always have to work harder for our wins than most of the cast, knowing that one mistake and knockdown can always cost the match. And yeah, Cammy, Rufus, Yun and Yang will be a nightmare…
I have something to say with all Vega players
Although we maybe do not have godlike skills and mind game like Makoto, Tatsu,etc to compete with the world but until now, the great willingness of using Vega is beat every shitty top tier character, although Vega always is low tier.
So what happens if someday capcom makes him up tier like Ken, Balrog ? It will not be interesting anymore !
So, to conclude, we should accept what he is now, and continue train harder
Crush top tier char and laugh at their face, it’s vega way
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mostly showing off EX Roll c.mp xx FBA, and changed CH.
Not exactly a match but rather showing off the changes of both characters.
EDIT: Upon watching it again, it looks like the nerf to CH was more so that we can’t ub.hp for instant over head or nj.hk for rushdown.
vega top tier-> welcome to ST, that shit its insane capcom wont do that again i tell u that, in the other hand i looking forward to main vega en AE, actually its my sub character (i main chun) so yeah who knows
I’m happy
Hey alexlkd, what is CLaw’s c.short on block?
But AE on consoles are going to be more characters, the possibility of Rolento making it…
DON’T BELIEVE ONO LIEE33SS!!!