SSF4 AE Vega Changes

[Jaiyiorck_ix]

That’s what i was wondering, has ST been a reliable AA in other games?

[Buddha_s_Weapon]

It was good in other games…but wasnt broken or anything close to that. He was still an offensive/footsie type character.

[Humpski]

That’s what i was wondering, has ST been a reliable AA in other games?

Hell yes. In HDR it was an awesome AA. The opponent could be doing a deep jump in attack on your wake-up and you’d still knock them out of it.

[Jozhear]

I’m always a grumpy old man

With a vengeance

I suppose now you can argue whether I’m senile or not but I think I still possess a hold over my faculties

[Jaiyiorck_ix]

So what’s the difference between SFIV Vega and other versions of him? Besides the lack of a true AA in IV?

[pedoviejo]

So what’s the difference between SFIV Vega and other versions of him? Besides the lack of a true AA in IV?

Most notably Custom Combo’s. Which are the gayest shit in Skreet Fyghter history.

[Jaiyiorck_ix]

Custom combos? Like Juri’s u1?

I honestly couldn’t imagine Vega with that o.O

[Buddha_s_Weapon]

Play cvs2, A-groove Vega.

[Jozhear]

Just imagine infinite rcf basically

Lots of slide as well

[Th3_JoK3R_J]

why would i attack constantly and do dumb shit when i could just sit back and let people never get near me

The idea is NOW you don’t charge often. And you don’t need to because it’s a fast charge anyway. With EX ST? I will just sit there. why take needless risks when OTHERs are going to be the ones taking risks, much more so than they do now.

I’d rather just lock EVERYTHING down then risk eating damage from reversals, getting baited etc. Getting knocked down with invincibility or not is still a highly more disadvantageous position than standing.

Also wtf? Running away? That was like, a year ago. More than that. I changed my style to play more aggressive so long ago.

And what do you mean “over-use” c. mp? With EX ST, if people are agonna jump over it, WHO CARES. I have the invincibility to actually DO something about it. You won’t be able to use it enough! That’s exactly the point of the argument. Not “running away”, it’s playing like a braindead turtle which is, ultimately, what the best players are gonna do. You don’t see Balrog / Honda getting close ALL the time simply because they want the match to be finished and their invincible EX moves will help them out. No, they just lock it down. no point, whatsoever, in doing anything else. I’m speaking, and making this argument, from the perspective of how I’d actually change my game. And I don’t like it. I like the way Vega is now and see no need for a change when he is already so well balanced.

You guys want it to be easier? Suit yourself. I actually enjoy a challenge and using my head. Sitting on my ass charging invincible EX ST mashing c. MP? Seriously, what the fuck else would you even need to do against like, over 50% of matchups. It’d just be boring ass, offense has nothing to do with it.

Puts hand on shoulder pervert style
Hey nobody can force you to play a different playstyle with Vega.

[x_knucklez_x]

Whatever. I don’t see what so hilarious about using st. Rh to beat focus. Or, why since I think Vega w invinc will be able to turtle that makes me unknowledgeable. Chances are I’m playing better comp than anyone here minus tatsu, offline or on. like it or not, that same knowledge gained from playing Chris hu, marn, juicebox, Rico, ryder, sabin, and Mr snk contributed to the way I think.

I’m not satisfied with your guys argument so, simple, I’m not changing my opinion. I could say the exact same thing anyway.

hey hey hey there now… ive played some good comp too dammit lol. lol this post was so random.

[superbatman86]

Speed mainly.All his normals came out fast, had good recovery,were good on block and hit,all were useful,better wall dive, rcf all had same start up, hell he could even cross up in some games.Good times.

[Asasin_jaY]

hey hey hey there now… ive played some good comp too dammit lol. lol this post was so random.

dont forget about me too DAMNIT !!!

[Vegaman]

dont forget about me too DAMNIT !!!

me too?

[Xx-Marty-xX]

From what I think both Joz and others are sorta of right…

we have to balance between offensive and defensive style with a little more towards defensive … and in my humble opinion i think vega should be played 55% defense and 45% offensive…

Some vega players turtle most of the time and they raise the defense bar up to 80% of their game, now that’s wrong IMO - again !! …

I have a question for you guys - Joz, pedo, vegaman…etc. On the so called defense/offense bar… how much you think you are giving vega?? and will the new EX ST will have affect on this bar?? which one of vega’s gameplay bar will go up and which one down??

[CHUCK]

tbh, fuck Joz, he’s good at the game and all that but he’s going on like Bebop pre console release atm.

[Francys_Pai]

tbh, fuck Joz, he’s good at the game and all that but he’s going on like Bebop pre console release atm.

No offense, but you really won’t make yourself any friends here by talking to people in such a manner.

All I’m saying about this is that sure. EX.ST is useful. I’m just wondering how many frames of invul this thing has and if the hitbox changes. The arc of that thing makes it susceptible to crossup shenanigans. Plus I’m not in favour of having a shoryuken-esque move only you can’t mash it. It gets the OP off you, but think of it like flashkick but with a more specific motion. Only tiime you’re hitting someone with it is if they’re stupid enough to fall for it. Which if an EX FK can be baited, so can EX.ST.

I don’t know. I’ll see how it pans out when the time comes and make my decision from there.
I’m not willing to change my gameplan to compensate for that change, if anyone else does, fair game to them.
I think Vega is already pretty solid, sure, EX.St wouldn’t damage his play.
But right now. There is NO guarentee these changes are concrete and no guarentee we’re getting them on console from what I read on eventhubs.
So I’m seeing very little reason for everyone to get their panties in a knot over this.

And with that I retire back to the social thread.

[CHUCK]

Who needs friends on an internet forum, I come here to learn about my character that’s all.

[Francys_Pai]

Who needs friends on an internet forum, I come here to learn about my character that’s all.

And help you won’t get from acting like an ass.

that’s all I’m saying.

[Sasaki]

lol, Joz is not like Bebop at all.

EDIT: And it blows my freaking mind how people even dare to compare the importance and usage of reversals in ST to that of SSFIV, which is a way more defensive game.