SSF4 AE Vega Changes

Go on Sasaki, elaborate on the second part of your post a little, because i honestly don’t know squat about other fighters. Teach me Sasaki-san! :o

depends on character… offensively tho i’m probably about 60% offense 40% defense. most characters i can rush down. (Vega, Ryu, Blanka, Hakan, etc). reverse that with the characters i cant. i’m about 60% defense 40% offense. (people like Juri, Guile, Honda, thawk, etc). zangief is 10% offense 90% defense/run away

Vega = 50% offense 50% defense

everything I do is intended to pressure, which leaves me less likely to get jumped in on or owned in my own right, etc

i’m always in the same space where i can hurt people but not get hurt myself,

that’s pretty much my goal 100% of the time

it appears that vega is a very offensive character but i don’t think it’s necessarily the case because if you’re not playing offensively then you’re not playing defensively, cause he can’t turtle

Boo hoo I’m not stepping on anybodys toes

If I’m getting passionate about my argument, sue me

It’s because I am a huge fan of this game, not becuase I’m raging and hate everybody in this forum (EDIT: I don’t mean to imply Bebop does that either)

No, I couldn’t care less if people disagree with me. in the end i just want to talk about he game and if people disagree, no skin off my nose.

EDIT 2: Like, if people want to get mad at me because of my thoughts over a video game (and arguably, how i present them)… wow… I’m pretty sure pedo and i are still chums as far as i’m concerned. i mean really what we’re saying is of so little significance

Anybody who takes shit on a forum personally should probably gtfo. Srsly,1.it’s a game, 2.it’s a game,3.it’s a forum.

So try not to be too much of an ass just because you disagree with Joz, Chuck.

Vega needs to approach carefully, and apply pressure where he can both apply poke pressure, counter poke, kara throw, and knock you down. Once he knocks you down, that is where all of his (imo) can start his pressure, with meaty mix ups, cross ups, and os punishes.

Its hard to give a number because against opponents who know what they are doing its so hard to get in a position where you can start all your offense.

You guys are going on like I’m the bad guy because you don’t want to lose “friends” on this board.

I’ll say it again, I do not give a fuck. I respect Joz as a player, he is better than me, but he is going on like he’s the don gargan because he’s so good.

I think Capcom’s mindset is to reduce the corner rape pressure Vega can be subject to. I’ve watched games where Makoto will perfectly play someone for 50 seconds and lose the game when all he’d need to land would be two cr.MPs… If you happen to get cornered against some characters, all you can do is block, tech throw and pray (or burn U2). That’s probably why they buffed his forward dash too.

Caveat – I’m a pretty low tier Vega. Thinkinng about it from a VS standpoint, even I think the I-frames on EX ST would be pretty annoying TO PLAY AGAINST. A vega with a life lead would be able to sit back and turtle and poke / counter pretty much everything.

A better solution to solving the corner pressure might be something like buffing EX SHC so that it continues through the target on block like it does on hit (as opposed to bounce off like it does on block currently). It would give him a non damaging escape tool in the corner and might be punishable if baited by certain characters (blanka ball, bison u2, etc).

Either that or make EX SHC have different heights based on the combination of buttons used like Juri’s ex fireballs. EX SHC MK+HK could be used as an escape tool.

Normally if you say fuck this guy ppl are gonna have something to contribute, usually not positive and I think ppl who would agree with you don’t care anyways

I might be arrogant with regard to my skill but I’m not going to say incendiary shit about a fellow board member

Nigga, talk correct please, I don’t understand a word of what you’re saying.

You are aware that one, people may take offense to that word youu just used there.
and two, speaking like that makes you look like an idiot. Who no one is going to take seriously.

Of course I know that, I’ve don’t care though.

If you say fuck joz ppl are gonna say something about it

So don’t complain about being made out to be the bad guy when you pretty much took it upon yourself

I may be arrogant hut I think my arrogance is quite harmless compared to nigga this fuck joz that

That’s what I’m saying

Keep talking shit though

Will do son, keep thinking that people are jumping to your defence because you’re a top Vega player and not because they want harmony on the forum.

Cool.

“sigh” :yawn:

More like a yawn :lol:

It could be Joz being a douche to some scrub on the forum. Doesn’t matter who it is, if you’re an ass you’re an ass. And that isn’t right, just because you’re on the internet doesn’t mean you can say nigga and fuck you to people you don’t know.

Cool?

Cool.

is this a soap opera or what

you want to talk about not understanding what I’m saying, well I can’t even begin to fathom what you’re getting at here

I’m not trying to imply why ppl are defending me at all, and I don’t think they really are at all

I’m saying don’t be such a bitch

if you’re all hardass and don’t give a fuck about what ppl think then don’t be such a daisy and complain about being made out to be the bad guy

as I said before, I think it’d your choice that you’re an asshole, so live with it

Much like I guess I do the same but like I said you don’t see me needlessly flaming ppl

lol at me being a scrub, I’d **probably **beat most people on this forum…

But hey, I don’t know, I don’t live in America, so I can’t play you to determine that.

Will lurk from now on though.