I was also a bit confused about “sobat” but… wow. I feel like a small chhild on christmas. Amazing.
Ultra 2 is already a viable wake-up and anti-air, adding EX ST would just make ppl crouch more. Considering that Vega is a offense oriented poker, too many reasons to crouch and charge is not ideal. I mean, he already has something thats viable, why fix something that is not broken? ST can reversal out of certain poke strings already, and it beats out grabs so its not too bad.What is it about people wanting Vega to be anything more than fair?
If they actually do make the changes to EX ST, you’ll realize why its a good thing.
Ok guys if they do buff his CH then how do you think they’d go about doing it?
Sobat is definitely referring to the Cosmic Heel. [media=youtube]lV9mRQp4HOc[/media]
I’m far from being a top player around here, but I don’t mind some I-frames on EX ST. I don’t think they are needed, but I’m not against them either. They could balance things out by making the damage on an EX ST lower so that it doesn’t just become a dumb option.
I’m not a fan of bandwagoners for one main reason… I just find the Vega mirror match really terrible to play. Otherwise, I don’t care who else is playing him.
While I’m quite alright with the way Vega is in SSF4, I don’t think the developers would be making a smart decision by leaving him unchanged like some of you were asking. Also, it’s nice to switch things up a little bit and breathe new life into a game with new changes. With that said, I don’t think their goal with Vega for the arcade edition is to make him better or top tier, but to keep him at about the same level and just give us a little bit of a different experience and since location tests are hardly indicative of the final product, it’s far too early for anyone to be bitching about any of this stuff yet anyways.
wait…
you guys are fine with buffed up Cosmic Heel, but refuse a buff to Scarlett Terror.
:wtf:
Well i guess the buff on ex st is confirmed…yay!
How many of you guys are gonna use U2 in less matchups now with the buffed ST?
Or will it change how you select your ultra at all?
I’ll still use U2.
Having a buffed ex ST isnt gonna be a broken move that everyone seems to think it is.
i’d take both. 
Unless they were to somehow improve BHC, SC would still probably be the overall better ultra of choice.
Who said ex st will be broken
I can guarantee you invincible st will bring certain matchups to 7 3 in Vegas favor but its not broken barring other changes. By comparison a nerfed backdash is hardly compensation for hakan, hawk, etc
Also pedo you are taking it out of context. Ex st changes Vega style for in some of our opinion the worse. Ch buff basically expands upon preexisting Vega play. That’s our argument
Also agree 100% w kei kun. An invincibility buff which will undoubtedly move Vega from mid to high isn’t really called for considering how good he is now. That’s our argument not some Shit about brokenness or etc
As far as I can see anyways no jp player has mentioned it w the rcf and ch buffs so I’m guessing it was never in the mix anyways. Same w izuna nerf. If ch has faster startup or something my guess is it’ll be a better idea to use during footsies. Meaning, Vega won’t soar to high tier but hell have an actual reason to try it against chun or rog without the throw mixup involved. Possible making those matches easier but not anything drastic. I’m all for that
How so?
If by some chance. And i know if he gets invul frames on EX ST, some of you guys are going to start playing run a way again (becasue god knows you guys are going to start over using cr.mp). It just means that you are playing wrong, and not taking advantage of what it does for you. What invul frames on EX ST do for Vega, it gives him a reason to be more aggresive. No longer do you fear a knock down, which allows you to attack even more. If you play Vega like you should, the only time you should be holding down back (even with invul frames) is when you get knocked down, blocking a poke, or blocking a string. Giving up all your offensive options because you can now push cr.mp like a dumb shit because EX ST covers your ass making it a viable strategy shows how much of an idiot that said player is. Run away Vega will never be viable, scary, useful, or win a tournament no matter how good ST is a AA.
That is the only play style change i can see.
excuse the run on sentences, and rant.
i hold down back during jumps and RCF’s and iznuas, and ST’s and CH’s and during PoM
Edit: and at the beginning of a round where my opponent has meter
lol i remember when the same people in this forum were saying that running away with vega was the ONLY way to win with him lmao. i think i was one of the very few who would even attempt to be really aggressive. glad to see these changes happening.
Yeah i remember that…at the time i didnt post much because i was busy laughing at what everyone was writing because they werent using the character correctly and complained about everything. Especially when i read posts from alot of people here that izuna drops werent good and shouldnt be used at all…lol!!!
But i’m glad to see alot of people improved and are even better than me now. I dont play much anyways…but still, im always glad to see people owning with Vega.
youre cute. 
i remember being called out because i kept pressing the issue that Vega doesnt have the tools to run away.
Vega is known to be a semi-defensive character that relies on quick offensive for life lead then semi-turtle. But the recent gameplays we see are offensive oriented all the way. In essense, its not that Vega magically changed, its the players that choose to become more offensive. I’ve seen very strong Vegas that rush down the first 10 counts then play the meanest wall game you’ll ever see.
If you actually look at all his tools, he has everything for almost every situation even in Vanilla. His normals cover almost all altitudes and it maps out a huge wall that is theoretically unpassable. Whats stopping him from not being a complete wall is the human brain… No one is fricken telepathic.
i still have a replay of trolling a guy named WHY_DO_YOU_RUN and winning by constantly doing laps around the screen