^Cammy can do the same with hooligan combination. Mashing a low jab/short ruins the setups. Against Fuerte though, your safest bet is back dashing it (jump is open to a guacamole leg throw, strong Tomahawk is the reversal option). Worst case scenario, you get hit by a body splash and quick stand out of his splash/tortilla pressure (unless there’s a new Fuerte buff in there somewhere).
Yeah. The problem is Back Dash is such a Rock, Rock, Rock, Scissor, Scissor, Scissor, situation.
Sadly, you only really have a hand full of options… all of which elf can blow up if you guess wrong.
Such a wonky matchup…
I dont think its 7-3 since you can run the same bull shit on wake up on him.
After playing the Blanka matchup for a good while, I’m pretty convinced that this matchup became easier for T.Hawk. I don’t think it’s 9 - 1 in Blanka’s favor, but I don’t it’s 7 - 3 either. More like somewhere in between, like 7.5 - 2.5? Idk, lol.
It’s still complete bullshit once he turtles on you, but once you’re able to get that KD you actually have a chance to exploit Blanka on wakeup. I still think the risk/reward for EX Upball is in Blanka’s favor, but at least now the Blanka Player has to make an educated guess on wakeup, rather then just using EX Upball like it was in AE and get away for free all the time.
I really believe this matchup is winnable now, but it sure takes the same amount of patience like it did before.
Hawk vs Juri is 6-4 Hawk
Doesn’t feel right, sir. Please explain.
I have to agree. This matchup is definitely in Juri’s favor, and it is the general consensus among T.Hawk players as well. She can turtle on him like crazy just by stocking those fireballs and releasing them at different angles. If Hawk doesn’t have any meter, he isn’t left with much options at all to get in either.
It’s not a terrible matchup. Once Hawk is in he can really pull the hurt on Juri. But yeah, this matchup is 6 - 4 in Juri’s favor.
The Juri matchup can be very annoying, you have to fight her like you do sim, and you have to be extremely patient, hawk has all the power Juri can’t afford to mess up cuz if she does she is dead. Stand your ground just think about all the work Juri has to do compared to what little work you have to
Its inevitable that your going to eat some fireballs but they don’t really do that much damage so don’t let that discourage you. Once you save a bar or two of meter you really have two options. The first being the most obvious is getting in and staying in. I always go with the second option which is getting the life lead and turtle(both can usually be accomplished by heavy spd) when Juri has to go on the offense she is bad against hawk. She can’t really keep up with him footsie wise and soooooo many of her normals and special moves on block is a free spd. She has low health and low damage input as hawk you make 1 or 2 good reads and the game is yours.
I find in alot of hawks matchups you just have to play lame, I know it’s boring and can be kind of uncomfortable but it’s just something your going to have to incorporate into your hawk game.
Hope this is a good explanation I can go into extra detail if need be
Very detailed explanation. I completely agree with the part where if Hawk has the lifelead that he can turtle on her and exploit her weak offensive game. Hawk definitely has the upperhand against her in that respect. Overall though, with all due respect, I still believe that Juri has the advantage.
If the Juri player is half decent then it’s a terrible matchup for Hawk. With no meter you basically can’t do shit but eat a million fireballs. Definitely one of the two most annoying characters in the game imo. Her and Fuerte.
Juri has a crappy defense, crappy zoning. And crappy offense…
I don’t understand why people would play her…there is nothing attractive about any of her pros. If you her her twice and turtle it out you win…he’ll if you knock her down, you can kill her on attack strings alone before she has a bar. Ad even if she does have a brand kick you out, what can she do? She has no safe option in getting in… She can’t jump… She can’t really dash up, god. They keep buffing her Audi still think she’s trash.
Lame juri players do it right but the problem is its just not worth it… I dunno I have strong feelings to this character I just don’t think there is reason why we would be losing to her
I don’t get the argument of just playing lame against juri. it has to be a signifigant life lead for it to be effective, because whiffing fireballs builds bar for juri, and whiffing them is really safe. she could just corner hawk and chip him with fireballs forever. I prefer steady advancing even if the life lead is in my favor, to continue pressuring and take advantage of how hawk can crouch under her firebals and even advance a bit with his sweep.
not to say turtling isn’t an option for hawk in the match up. when the life lead IS isgnifigant, the crappy fireball chip isn’t going to get the opponent anywhere. careless use of her specials can be easily punished. I just think its misleading to say “oh, just turtle, and your good once you get life lead” like the match is already hawk’s.
or I could just be bad at turtling.
How do you even receive chip damage at fullscreen distance from Juri? She doesn’t even have fullscreen fireballs.
Juri is really easy honestly. You can kill her before she even gets a bar if you knock her down once…
I need some advice on the Dee Jay matchup. Dee Jay has that freakin’ Jumping Fierce that completely stuffs everything I do in the air or on the ground. Is there a way to trade or stuff this move reliably? Everytime he uses that jumping Fierce I feel as if there’s nothing I can do to stop it.
You have to guess with an early air-to-air jab or elbow against that in the air. On the ground, use the usual AA options (maybe just Thrust Peak and EX Tomahawk if you’re worried about a knee coming out, it tends to stuff fierce Tomahawk sometimes).
Okay, thanks for the advice. Man, it’s just so fuckin annoying that the stupid Jumping Fierce beats like…everything Hawk can do. Some things about this game doesn’t make sense, and the same thing goes for that slide he has too. Ughs…o_O
Just watch your roundhouse/forward pokes and slide shouldn’t be an issue. It’s more annoying than anything else, really (as is Deejay in general).
We need to put our heads together and really figure out how to beat Hakan. This matchup is terrible now. Im going to go in the lab and figure some stuff out. This is surprisingly and admitting… a hard match-up now…
Seriously WTF am I supposed to do against M. Bisons that spam air attacks? I can’t punish anything and am sitting there eating chip all day.
Why the fuck am I always losing to the players who do stupid shit instead of playing the game like it is supposed to be played?
Just walk toward him and block… what exactly are you having trouble with, elaborate.