IIRC, EX Tatsu basically beat everything that Boxer could do on wake up, right? Or was I mistaken? Because I tried it the other day and it traded with EX Headbutt…
This is how I approach the seth matchup:
- throw minimal fireballs
- just walk towards him slowly, block any of his long range normals and jump over s.booms but dont get into a fireball match
- buffer the dp to AA his divekicks/jump-ins.
- try to use c.mk xx tatsu’s more often then c.mk fireballs as Seths love to focus attack so the tatsu will break the focus
- Use c.mp alot more as a poke rather then c.mk as Seths spin-kick seems like a good counter to ryu’s c.mk
By doing the above my results vs Seth have improved alot.
Does anybody else approach the Seth matchup in the same way?
I have a similar approach then you. I will often use Fireball to just cancel his sonic boom and most
of the time just jump over it to gain space if its safe. Ive realised recently that simply walking foward
with Ryu is a very good tool, his foward walk speed is surprisingly fast.
c.mk tatsu or c.mk xx ex fireball seem useful in the Seth Match up.
Yo guys just added Air’s new writeup for the cody matchup. Enjoy
Yeah, I’ve had it trade with EX headbutt before, too. Whether it trades or wins depends on how you time it according to his wakeup.
Another really useful trick against Balrog is low-forward xx whatever (usually fireball) when he is waking up. Obviously this is a sort of weird trick that shouldn’t really be applied against most characters, but it seems good against Balrog. The low forward causes an EX headbutt on wakeup to whiff, and it goes under an EX dash punch.
There are some tricks to the Balrog match-up that I know of, but I am still ass at fighting him. If anybody uses Rog that wants to get some games in with me, message me on xbox. GT: Karaba10
Never really use EX Tatsu to much on opponent wake up. Is it a move you try to do meaty.
OK maybe I just mistimed it cos I’m pretty sure it beats everything that Boxer can do on wake up. Even Air said so on his blog.
Yeah it is good meaty,if they wake-up pressing buttons they get hit by it and if they backdash it hits but only once.I like to use it in the corner by mixing up throws on their wakeup so when they try teching on wakeup tey get an EX tatsu corner combo
Yeah, it does beat all of his options. That was the point I was trying to get across in my post, but I think I worded it funny.
Another useful trick against Balrog is after you throw a mid to full-screen fireball, do a qcf jab. If he blocks or gets hit by the fireball, you will throw a light fireball. If he jumps over it, you will get a jab and have enough time to block or uppercut or whatever. If he does a turn around punch, your stand jab will stuff it and you can confirm it into sweep if your reactions are good enough.
In the Cammy match up after a Spiral arrow and Ryu do a quick wake up Cammy do an instant jump with either cannon strike or cross up lk.
Are these set up safe for her. I am having trouble figuring it out in dojo so maybe somebody is familiar with the set up can tell me.
Also I am wondering after the set up after her back throw then walk a tiny and some cannon strike mix up whats the best way to handle this.
You can actually delay your quick rise by 5f IIRC, but in general most of her x-up options are safe. Sometimes you can beat them if they mistime it or go for a more damaging option but it’s just a guess. I rarely quick rise vs Cammy.
is there anything on the juri matchup? i can’t seem to find it
Can anyone point me towards tips against Deejay? I swear this guy feels 3:7 using Ryu.
Lame him out and make him come to you, try to keep him in the middle of the screen area, only jump if he is throwing a fireball.
cr.MK to HK Tatsu is a good punish for his Rolling Sobats (HK and MK only).
Otherwise there are some empty jump ins you can use when he throws fireballs most of them will slide towards you punish those quickly as he recovers fairly quick.
cr.MK and cr.MP are your friend in this match
Remember:
He can’t charge if he’s walking towards you.
DO NOT jump in
Most importantly do NOT get cornered by him, you will have no way to get out.
Do not poke with sweep, knocking him down is almost pointless since his AA auto corrects and beats everything you have
You can always bait out his AA. Always good to mix in a safe jump here and there. Still that match is just hard.
And only punish mk sobat if ryu is up close. There’s a big chance that tatsu will whiff.
Also OS ex tatsu, is great especially against gief with no u2 built up. But don’t use it against Elf with a stack u2.
Safe jump after Sweep works perfectly. The faster DeeJay’s AA is 4f startup, feels free to jump him after hit a sweep.
Try to zoning his slide and punish with Sweep or Low Forward xx EX Hadou (requires training for calculate the correct timming) for safe jump him again. Also try to bait his hop (qcf+ Short to fake Hadouken) and punish with HP SRK and dat Jamaican will respect your game (buff SRKs all time)
Can someone confirm a meaty c.lk on wake up beat Ex scarlet Terror of Vegas on wake up
and vs Rose wake up I am in time to block an Ex soul Spiral Reversal after a meaty c.lk.
I am asking since I am getting reversed all the time online but I was under the impression those
meaty were safe.
i think they both have invincibility
I am like 99% sure on EX Scarlet being beaten by meaty c.LK,not sure about Rose.
Meaty cr.lk is safe vs Rose. EX SS hits on the 13th frame, while meaty cr.lk recovers in 12f at most.