SSF4 AE: Revenge of the Orbs

Since they nerfed the range on her far st.mk, is Rose still able to far st.mk into cr.mp on CH? Has anyone tried this?

Yes she can.

Anyone do H Spiral whiff into Ex spiral baits? Totally 4got rose has this option and just remembered the other day. Good way to punish Balrogs who walk back and whiff punish your h spirals.

I don’t do it anymore. Rose has better options. If you EX Spiral Balrog if he whiffed punishes HK Spiral, his jab is a 10 frame move, Rose’s EX Spiral has 13 frame start up.

It wouldn’t work :frowning:

that’s assuming he has perfect timing and presses jab at the at the same time/before you do ex spiral. Usually they punish with sweep or stand strong. It’s not a perfect trick but it works here and there. Definitely one of the those once a match type of traps before they catch on =p.

Trust me.

They’ll get one jab and then they’ll start blocking.

Good ones at least. 3 frames is A LONG time in SSF4

Ok what? You’re going to have to give me tips, because dive kick screws me over so completely that I’m basically free. And I thought Rufus was bad.

I think Yun and Yang will have the advantage over Rose in AE. What doesn’t stop them from running over her like a truck? Her U2 is useless in terms of defense. She can’t keep them away forever with safe Spirals.

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If you’re having more trouble with Yun and Yang’s dive kicks compared to Rufus’s, you’re doing something wrong since you can react to all their divekicks with standing jab because of a height restriction.

;(.

You can always space it far away. That way if they do punish with jab, they can’t combo afterwards cause it pushes you out. And if you are an hair’s breadth away, you have nothing to lose by ex spiral’ing. You’re gonna get punished either way. Better to gamble for a knockdown. Who knows? You could get lucky. DEFINITELY a one time trick.

I like to anticipate and ST/EX ST. Assuming he’s standing at midscreen? I know the range in my head but im not sure how to say it. I think rose has less trouble with the twins than most because a lot of the characters that relied on the fireball for safe zoning can’t do it anymore. Rose never had safe fireball play in the first place(yea for 52 frame fireball thats unsafe at any range but nearly max screen).

I don’t know… HK Spiral lasts for a whopping** 40 frames**. Balrog (and any other character) has all day to whiff punish your HK Spiral on reaction with sweep or whatever else. Personally, I wouldn’t want to whiff something like that. It’s just too much of a risk for so little reward.

I wouldn’t do EX Spiral. If you whiff the hk spiral and you have enough time to Ex Spiral, you also have enough time to block.

Just block and don’t take the EX Spiral risk where you waste a meter and get punished.

I wouldn’t really advise whiffing HK Spirals, especially from my own experience. Every character has a normal that can punish it from a distance.

the twins’ wake-up game is not excellent. you can pressure them a lot more than shotos. meaty s.mk is still your best friend against them, preventing their dragonkick and their special throws.
but it’s true, i can’t find how fei long is not a bad match-up :o

I haven’t tried Rose in AE yet. Is it true that her U2 comes out in 4 frames? If so, has anyone tried any new combos with it (like comboing off cr.lk)?

So how do we feel about mid tier Rose in Kindevu’s tier list.

SMACKDAB IN THE MIDDLE! :smiley:

It’s much better than low tier, which was the popular opinion around here lol.

His tier list is interesting, it’s different from the general consensus of top Japanese players like Mago and Daigo.

with all the suppose’d nerfs to rose in ae imma still rep her, at least its not vanilla anymore all who played her in vanilla know what im talkin about we just have to go back to the vanilla wake up games and block more.