SRK Tier Discussion OS XII

<3 Ender but fuck mentos. Haters gonna hate! = D

I approve of Mayhem.

Everybody hates on Mentos, I’m used to it by now.

That avatar is quite nice, dude. I’m jelly.

I like mentos.

…seriously.

That makes sense, Quiche. You’re the most sensible dude on the planet.

I’ve intentionally ignored the tiers discussion this time around (although I might spend the next 4 hours catching up and grab the tail end of it), but I just gotta come in here, help out Genghis Khan a bit, and support the idea that just because you have followers, it’s not the same thing as assists.

References: Since this is a video game oriented site, I’ll use mostly references from them. Ice Climbers can’t be considered an assist because they come as a duo. You can knock one of them out and the other stays in, so it’s fair. It is NOT an assist.

Also, Captain Commando. His team just comes to help him. No assist required. If you want to stop the assist, then get his team to conspire against him. But, you still gotta take care of Cap Com. Same thing goes with Genghis Khan.

He’s a charismatic leader and just happens to have an army behind him. If you take out one, another one rises up to battle you while you’re taking on Genghis himself. Not to say he’s tierable. I actually happen to take offense to him beating PTB. Wayne research would be able to place a DNA altered version of Genghis into the time-line where he is a pacifist and not warlike, fixing the paradox and rendering Khan practically defeated.

But, it does allow me to reintroduce the pregnant roach into the tiers. The fact is, her brood is a part of her despite the fact that they’re basically an army.

As far as the no offense factor goes, they spread disease. Through your food, so SARS mask is ineffective. The disease is ingested, and it’s been altered by millions of genetic mutations to render it immune to vaccination and chemical treatments. It’s been exposed to enough Lysol to actually thrive within the bottle itself, so even the act of cleaning it just recontaminates the area you spray it in. The roaches carry the diseases, helping them spread and mutate even more. You can never get rid of the germs and one day you WILL be getting sick. Even Batman. Preptime cannot save him, only delay the inevitable as generation after generation of hideous diseases take over his body.

Oh, I also want to take a swat at Barry. While I LOVE the character’s concept and see how powerful he is, I can prove that he is not invincible. In fact, he’s quite easily beaten. Barry’s pants are basically a wearable version of a bag of holding. See the section on interaction with other objects. All Batman (or anyone else) would need to destroy his pants (and therefore his powers) would be a portable hole, or another bag of holding from an early version of D&D, which he could acquire by simply slipping into another dimension where an older version is still being played. Or… he could just ask Barry for one and the pants insta-poof! He gets beat by a simple lv. 9 item.

The problem with Bats doing that, making Genghis Khan a pacifist, is that by doing so he prevents Genghis from spreading Chinese technology to the west, creating a food surplus in Europe, putting the Dalai Lama in charge of Tibet, et cetera. Simply put, it would completely fuck up the modern world and actually set it back a great deal.

Simply replacing baby Temujin with baby Woody Allenor something wouldn’t even kill the concept of Genghis Khan. Genghis stated that his body is mortal but that his spirit is everlasting and that he will be reborn one day to smite the wicked/conquer the world/fuck shit up/etc like Jesus or King Arthur but way more badass and without weaknesses to Italians and sleazy French guys stealing his wife.

All Batman would have to do against Jesus is get out a nail gun, maybe hire a couple mobsters and Jesus is out for at least a few days. For King Arthur, just pay Vincent Cassel to show up at Arthur’s dinner party, and steal his main bitch, thus leaving him melancholic and vulnerable to all kinds of petty schemes. With Genghis Khan? No free shit like that. A reborn Genghis in modernity would be a hard fight for Bruce. Seriously, Genghis learns to exploit and use new technology like that. Remember South Park where he hard countered the heat seeking missile? That is how prepped he is. Seriously he had never seen a guided missile before in his life and dude just instantly countered it. The Chinese used rockets, repeating crossbows, and siege engines against him. His barbarian self slaughtered their much larger army and soon the Mongols came back with improved versions of those weapons. Clearly not a guy to be fucked with.

Your strat against Barry’s pants only works if they are indeed a bag of holding, but they’re not. Bags of holding require the user to actually place the items inside the bag before they can be removed. His pants are more of a genie lamp, in the sense that he can remove things from them by simply thinking about them. He pulled a living Abraham Lincoln from his pants who vaguely knew who he was. We all know that Abraham Lincoln is indeed dead, but Barry still had the power to pluck an alternate version of him that was aware of a member of the 20th century.

Batman could just steal the pants. Saggin’ Barry is a high school student. He sleeps in on weekends. All Batman has to do is break into his suburban home and snatch them.

You should have read all of my prop before you posted, because if you had, you would know that your idea wouldn’t work.

Sorry, but I’m thinking that the pants work on the same principles as the Bag of Holding. The bag and the pants are obviously capable of reaching into other dimensions and therefore across time. But, it’s not Barry that holds this power. Like Green Lantern and Juggernaut, his power is limited to the item which grants it, in this case, the pants. He can request the item from the pants, but they must grant the request. The existence of Baggin’ Saggin’ Mary proves that other instances of the pants are also in existence. Where Batman to ever get a-hold of a pair these pants, say, from borrowing them from Mary or from making his own pair, dude would be DONE.

He has to have the willpower to pull the items though, notice how he at first lacked confidence to pull an item from his pants until he got a motivational speech. Not just anyone can use the pants, pulling great items from them is a skill. Also, Barry/Mary have never been seen not wearing the pants. So how do you know that they actually come off? There’s a higher chance that the pants are actually bonded to them. Hell, they’re even included in his/her name.

When placed in any sort of combat/arena environment 1 on 1 with PT Bats, Barry could pull out a limitless amount of things that would kill Batman instantly. The bottom line is that there’s absolutely no way that Batman can prep for infinite possibilities.


Mayhem Guy is god tier.

holy thread resurrection, batman!

Well… fuck. :tup:

Damn that Mayhem commercial haha. Can’t believe that I suggested him for top tier 2 years ago… damn time flies.

who’d have thought he’d stand the test of time like that! NGB guy hasn’t been seen in years.

Friend brought me hear then I recently saw that commercial. Mayhem guy is too op. Possessing objects and people and wrecking havoc into the world.

WOAH I haven’t seen this in a while…hell most of the members aren’t even here anymore!

Wow this thread brings back good memories especially the tier list.

Yeah the SRK Tier discussions were comedy gold back in the day. It’s really about time for another thread, but since all the OGs left I doubt there would be any interesting arguments.

Any S.H.I.T. members still around?