Just got on, i’m reading through the posts
*@Pietastic why do you think Godot would be the mastermind over Coco? We literally haven’t seen shit out of Coco. *
*Also what are your thoughts on Mobius? I’m scratching my head about him still, he’s played as a wallflower with a little contribution here and there. *
Hmm, I’m a wallflower, aren’t I?
Well, I generally don’t like repeating the points others made so I refrain from doing so.
As for TCJ, the little I see of him, strikes me odd.
Godots being the mastermind over TCJ is pretty unlikely seeing as the spotlight is on Godots since day 1. Him enacting any plot would be seen through by all of us as he never once dropped from the radar.
TCJ on the other hand, you guys almost forgot he was there. By the time I submitted my vote,(that was midnight on your time, I suppose), he has yet to post anything on Day 3.
With nothing to work with about him, my Day 2 impression on him have yet to change one bit.
**Coco & Godot: **Godot has 2 game prior exp and Coco has 3 game prior exp. If they are mafia then they have been dancing all game long on a razors edge. If they are corrupt, I don’t get why they silenced Azure night 1. They could have generated the same type of reaction against Godot without wasting their gasp blocker. In fact it would have been smarter for both of them to conserve the gasp blocker in that case because if/when Godot got lynched then Coco would have 2 blockers to work with. Because of that reason I don’t think they’re both working together as mafia.
@darkgeneral: if cojones ends up being hale, I won’t be shocked. Regardless of who picked whom, I think they might have determined it’s GR’s job to post a lot and CJ’s job to hang back.
Möbius is a complete wild card to me. Re-reading the thread from the start, nothing about him has stuck out. Troubling.
Who are your top suspects?
What do you think of myself, Pietastic and Godot?
I think you’ve been very helpful to the civs, and I think you’ve contributed too much to be Mafia. I can’t think of anything that sticks out.
By the way, here’s my list:
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Co-Jones
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Mobius
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DarkGeneral/Pietastic
I’m having a hard time choosing whether General or Pie is more likely to be Mafia, but I think The Co-Jones is the most suspicious right now.
Where are you, Co-Jones?
- Honestly, it’s strange that you’ve been off on every one of your lynch votes even though you were seen as a all-star caliber player. Since the beginning of the game I thought you would be an ideal mafia recruit and while you have been useful, have you really? You’re without doubt 1 of my top 3 suspects right now.
I was going over in my head why every single one of us made it to the final 5.
DarkGeneral: Been wrong on every single lynch, inexperienced player.
Pietastic: Wrong on every single lynch.
Mobius: Wallflower which leads to uncertainty, inexperienced player.
The Co-Jones: Hasn’t contributed shit, has only jumped on the bandwagon. If he’s not mafia he could be easily manipulated into going along with the 2 mafia’s lynch vote.
Godot: Has had the heat on him all game. Would be easy for players to jump on him in a late game desperation scenario. *
*I still can’t wrap my head around Mobius. True to his word he has played like a sniper the entire game, he’s singled in on one person and stuck with it. Way back in the beginning of the game I kept an eye on his interactions because I didn’t have much information on him. I thought if he was Hale then he would possibly recruit Synonym or possibly Godot since he played with them. But when he gave his response of picking someone experienced I had to rethink my initial thought.
That’s part of the reason why I started asking people how many Mafia games they played in before. Since Hale recruited his partner I’am 100% certain that how experienced his partner was would be crucial in whatever plan he had to deceive the civs. *
@darkgeneral: you’re right, I’ve been wrong so far. To be fair, so has everyone else. To put things in perspective, here’s a statistical argument.
Day 1, 2 mafia, 11 players=18% chance of lynching right.
Day 2, 2 mafia, 9 players=22% chance of being right.
Day 3, 2 mafia, 7 players=29% chance of being right
So, just by sheer chance, we should have nabbed someone by now, but it’s also not surprising we haven’t. Research and the presence of a UC are supposed to swing those numbers in our favor, but right now, we only have one of those options available.
I think I’m still alive for four reasons:
- Earlier in the game, there were better targets than me, like Synonym
- Mafia were more concerned with role hunting when they got Neesa, who did provide subtle hints about her role
- Having a reputation (deserved or not) as a strong player, Medic might have protected me
- Casting suspicion on me.
Oh, about you three, well,
DarkGeneral: Well, aside from the questionable suggestion you’ve made that Pietastic mentioned, nothing stuck out like a sore thumb. That said, I’ve noticed that out of the surviving players your vote is casted after Pietastic’s and tends to be last, except yesterday where you voted Manx before TCJ(alive) could and on Day 1 where Neesa(deceased) voted sometime after you.
Pietastic: He’s troubling me this entire game and the fact the he’s been alive up to this point. That said, I’m not the one to vote someone end-game simply because they are too strong to be left alive as a civ. I have null reads on him at the moment, but his contributions, like I’ve said on Day 2, is paramount.
Godots: I agree on you in this one, we view him the on the same light,
Co-Jones has been gone for exactly 24 hours. Where you at, man?
*About your observation of me: Absolutely spot on. This is made me look in the mirror about my own playing. If Pietastic is mafia then he wouldn’t want to kill me at night time because he would think he could influence my vote to agree with him. I have sat on the fence during votes because I have not been confident about where I should place my vote. So it got me thinking, why the hell am I going with the wagon? What has lead me to hop aboard? It’s been Pietastics logical reasoning…
Wait, logical reasoning? That’s usually pretty helpful for the civs right? But what if mafia used that against us. Wouldn’t playing with logical reasoning that you know would lead others to detrimental conclusion be a strong playstyle? So I came to a new question, how would that be achieved? *
@darkgeneral: all game I’ve called on people to contribute their own perspective and make up their own mind to vote, except to say that we can’t afford tie votes, etc. the more people are thinking critically, the better chance we have of identifying stuff in the thread that appears to be logical thinking, but actually isn’t. Openly posting and having healthy discussion on logical matters is a path to victory in my view. From the games I’ve played and observed, things get dicey when people start saying stuff like, “guys, we need to lynch X, but I don’t want to say why because I don’t want to tip off the mafia.” So I try to do the opposite of that and encourage others to do that too.
Pietastic voted for 3 confirmed civs
DarkGeneral voted for 3 confirmed civs
Möbius voted once for a confirmed civ, and twice for CJ
GR voted for 2 confirmed civs, with a vote for CJ in the middle
CJ voted for 2 confirmed civs, with a vote for GR in the middle
*This is a post talking about the “last grasp blocker” on page two. If you want to read the conversation just go back to the top of page 2. Now with that part out of the way Pietastic goes on to say the part I used bolded. That same night Azure got his last gasp blocked. It’s a strange coincidence, but why the FUCK would Pietastic do that if he was Mafia? Well if he is Mafia the answer is quite simple: trust.
The civs would see that the Mafia “wasted” their blocker on Azure which makes the civs at large go into a state of confusion with our UC already dead. Thus the most “logical” thing the civs would do would be to look for someone they can trust, you can usually trust someone who appears to be playing logically. But if that’s all I have on Pietastic then that’s thin. Wafer thin. I can’t just throw one of our most (apparently) helpful civs under the bus like that. *
- He doesn’t urge us to look at who interacted with Azure but say’s that he himself is. This (to me) can be seen as a gentle push to get the civs to look in a certain direction and with a certain focus when it comes to Azures death. The other part of the post I left in tact for 2 reasons.
!: He offers up an idea that’s benefits the mafia as much as the civs (I know, I’m not one to talk). IF Pietastic was mafia then he could do all sorts of tricky stuff with this suggestion.
2: Going back to the waterwell of “past game tactics” when it’s the thing that lead him to lynch our UC. It’s one thing to be confident but it’s another thing to be cautious. This has always troubled me and is one of the first things that made me suspicious of him being Mafia. *