I thought Forge going a long time without posting but being around after his vote through the end of that phase and starting in night phase, and still not here, was kinda fishy. Glad to be wrong, now help out dude!
Nope. It was already covered but to go with this post after Pyro’s death… and not consider what Cyntalan said about Alpha/Combo Knight… strange.
Right, you have the most recent experience in playing a game with Alpha. What came about from you guys going at eachother that really stood out to me was you calling yourself the best player, “lynch me I dare you” that part which you already explained.
Most of us aren’t going to know if you are or not. And that seemed to be the end of it, just going at him in response, an eye for an eye.
Here’s what’s crazy about that. Mafia will go after players with roles and experienced players who can win the game for the other team. How risky was it to proclaim you were the best player in this game? You wanted to put yourself in the group with me and Cyntalan, Combo Knight or anyone else that was thought to be good - from the discussion on possible pickups for a Red teammate. So if they killed you [instead] and got a role, even better right?
So do you understand now you might have limited your days? If Mafia has a list of who is lynchable and who they need to take out as priority, you would be high on there. I know I’m on that list even though I don’t have any good reads right now and haven’t swayed anybody, its even being used against me that I voted for someone and people jumped on that player. I have never been able to get votes for someone even after gathering all the evidence I tried to implicate someone as guilty.
By the time you lynch all 3 (sticking to that plan no matter what), game over.
Insane idea based on the turn up that mattrox was civilian.
We still have ridiculously quiet people and stuff that looks really fishy, a lot more than voting for an inactive. We have a guy that replaced an inactive and hasn’t chimed in about the current events or the previous ones all that much.
I know about the Mafia will group up. But they didn’t need to, it only took 2 votes to get someone out. They just let us kill ourselves with that one. Cyntalan was in that group that voted Mattroxx. Why are the other 3 really likely to be Mafia for you?
Having another day’s votes to compare to is okay to find a mafia bandwagoning. You wanted to vote Pertho out, another inactive, same as mattrox. Exodus and others considered Pertho also.
Karma’s a bitch. >.< Maybe we shouldn’t have laughed at the REDs for lynching their own pyro? lol
Anyway, I’m confirmed civ. I have to say that I’m honored that someone would actually chose me to investigate and confirm. I’ll do my best to avenge you Cynt!
I also understand that this is a double-edge sword. Now that I’m confirmed civ, I’m a perfect target for mafia. They don’t need me in the game anymore if they can’t convince you guys to lynch me, right? Although they could also keep me around to gain my trust and bend the public opinion that way. I know that I have to get useful really quick just in case I do die tonight.
@orochizoolander It’s an improvement that you apologized, I’m still not buying it. We all have to work together. If you’re not with us then you are, by definition, against us. Only mafia would get so upset at a mere suggestion that a No Lynch was an option. At least WAH and Alpha gave a good counter-opinion about it. Like I said, it was bait to see who would jump on me hardest for such a simple reason. Not even the late Cynt, who I here was adamant against No Lynches, went that hard. Prove to me that you’re willing to win this for this civs and maybe I’ll change my mind.
@AlphaCommando I found a flaw in your previous plan. I thought about it before I went to bed last night, but didn’t have access to a computer in the morning because I was freaking out over a internship interview. If everyone were to post the fake results with the UC posting the real results, it would help the mafia find the UC. Eventually, if they knew that certain people’s listings were wrong, they could cross them off the list of UC candidates. This would make the role hunt much simpler, especially because the mafia doesn’t have an enforcer to help the role hunt along. This is pretty suspicious, actually. I hate to say it bro, but I think there’s a little red showing. Either that or you seriously didn’t consider that disadvantage, which isn’t something I’d expect of someone as insightful as you.
And I’d like to conclude with this one thing: if WAH is mafia, we’d be fucked. I’m not trying to be mean, but a lot of the time I have trouble even understanding what you’re trying to say, much less reading between your lines.
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Hecatomb is a word that means a large scale sacrifice or slaughter, i just took the b to make the name of the main char of a story that i made
I already said what i think about this current situation. I can’t do more than that, begging for my life or not if there are people who already has pegged me as mafia i can’t do shit to change their mind.
consider that you defending yourself pretty hard does 2 things.
It took off the heat of Cyntalan looking at AlphaC and CKnight. You made more posts about that than they did. A Distraction Move, or can be considered one. That sucks if RED uses it against you because you were the most vocal.
There are only Mafia and one role left. There’s no need for self preservation too much, just make a bigger case against the guy pointing the finger at you or just a better target so you don’t have a stalemate argument. I’ll say that you could be 3rd on their list of good players/role hunt with these posts you made.
Going to read this thread now, see who among hecatomB, WAH, and exodus I’ll be voting for.
@forgedigger I don’t care, like others have said a lynch is the only way to get the flow of information going and not using our one tool this early can only hurt us. Sacrificing one person for information is usually the civilans only option early on.
Good look at the things nobody considered, at least by players and openly said in the game publicly. If Alpha was “kekeke’ing” like an evil mastermind in a PM to Pimp about it… get that mofo!
I don’t ask the right questions and don’t lead rallies even with all the information I collect. Nobody really works with me. I was only killed by Mafia in the Death Note game, they thought I was playing differently and role hunted. They were wrong.
That is a thought on worst case scenarios but you guys already consider it at the start of the game now.
I’ll put up my list of Hale that I asked for but didn’t provide instead of really scary sounding lists nobody wants to talk about.
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And I already explained some of these guys like Pertho would be Hale first, brand new player there right?
Right now is very difficult to try to make a point, since there isn’t a discussion happening. That also makes virtually impossible to get reads about the other players.
I’ll be honest, i really find derisory that some people claim that there are people feeling mafia vibes about other players when there is barely anything to go by and try to get a solid read.
Take me for example, right now the only red flags that i have made apparently are:
A) Pointing out how ridiculous was for Cynt to come and start saying that i was very suspicious for being active enough to be forgettable when he was even less active than me and even less useful.
B) Making my case and pointing out the possible scenarios of what is happening.
The logic behind Alpha Comando’s train of thought is very flawed, he is basically doing what the mafia wants him to do.
Combine that with how inactive are the players on this mafia thread and you can see the doom coming our way easily.
IMO, my dead would only serve to fuck us more, why? because everyone would start focusing on alphacomando and if he is a civ and he doesn’t manage to make his case it will mean a 5 civs less in 3 days, 6 by the end of that night phase.
Right now everyone is contributing to the mafia play by being inactive and not promoting any kind of discussion.
He isn’t listening to anybody else and is just being another vote that other people cannot even benefit from. I think he’s really crazy for not even considering the magnitude of voting 3 guys in a row = game over. He wants to find 1 mafia in there, so maybe Blue gets 1 Mafia but still loses.
If he lynches me and you and we don’t turn up as Mafia, is he even going to change his mind about Exodus and not just lose the game?
That’s really fuckin dangerous more than a quiet guy.
I saw what he wrote. I just don’t agree with him on those two. Although I’m looking at Hecatom funny just as he was.
I have no fear of what I’ve got coming my way after some of the stuff I say. Mafia probably should go ahead and kill me soon, or else I will sniff them out.
That is a possibility, but the majority of results from people would be ‘innocent’ with a very small minority choosing ‘guilty’ or ‘inconclusive’. By the time Mafia narrowed down UC using this method, the game would be either over or near the end. Plus, this is also assuming that the UC would tell the truth in their results. If we still had the UC and he was smart, he might reverse his results in order to make sure he wasn’t killed or LG blocked. A UC that lied in their results in my plan would be a powerful move of self-preservation with your ‘flaw’.
I’ll agree with the others in saying that’s a bit excessive… I do think there’s a mafia hiding in that group. But it’d probably be smarter to lynch one of them and see what information we’d gather before we even think about touching another one if we’re wrong. Plus, you’re not off my radar either. Lynching you would probably be more beneficial. If you’re mafia, then we can somewhat confirm that those three are likely clean. If you’re not, then I can retire that ForgeDigger/orochizoolander grouping I made so I’d have one less group to worry about.
From your perspective, can you count how many times each person would be picked as a Spy? I realise this would be a total guess from your end, but it might end up helping us when we need to find Hale’s recruit. Make sure to focus on people that have had previous positive interactions. It might be more helpful to list who each person would recruit (even confirmed/dead civs).
Yeah that was a combination of two things done at the start of the game, then just updated for the deaths, if you want my reads on what mattrox and cyntalan would’ve been I have those too. Any one else helping on that part is welcome rather than this day 1 voting thing.
zoo get back here already. Going off to read and is probably just going to show up right near the vote deadline. That will only help bcuz all it takes is both Mafia voting with you with this group of voters, where 3 votes total can probably get a lynch everytime. You haven’t said that part though.