I can’t speak for the others, but i decided to vote for MrMattroxx soley on how inactive he has been, which is consistent on the way that i always vote on the 1st day, i always vote for the least active player unless there is something that sticks out as really fishy about other player.
I also find funny that you suspect about 50% of the players left
He is a really good player, historically here on SRK the mafia usually goes after the good players first. Add that he had suspicious about me as i did about him, so killing him not only provides them a civ kill and a good player less in the field, but also helps them bring suspicious on anyone who he suspected or bickered with him in any way, like me.
He end being the pyro was just a happy coincidence for the mafia imo.
My advice in this situation is that before jumping into conclussions we should analize what we know.
Jus because Cynt is dead it doesn’t mean that he is right about who is or isn’t mafia, neither means that i should be considered one automatically, tof course you are free to suspect about me, but not because of that you should start a lynch a bandwagon against me, without taking the time to think on every possible scenario that could be happening and weight the possibility of which one could be based on how risky they are and what kind of gain nets to the mafia.
I really think that it wouldn’t be very intelligent for the mafia to kill someone who was arguing with one of them on the 1st day, specially on a game where there are only 2 mafia players since the 1st thing that can happen is that the player who was arguing with whoever was killed will be pegged as mafia, is too risky imo, if the mafia player can’t change the lynch bandwagon against himself he would end being killed.
I don’t say that it can’t happen but the risk reward ratio is quite heavy for the mafia on a game with low numbers.
Meanwhile killing a player that was bickering with other civ will bring suspicious on the survivor and even if he doesn’t end lynched it serves as a distraction allowing the mafia to keep hidden for a while.
The risk reward ratio is more favorable imo.
That’s exactly the answer I wanted and more. There are at least three themes in that response that ring alarm bells to me.
-“They’re trying to frame me” (Also used by Pimp Willy in the Phoenix Wright game and Missing Person in the Resident Evil game, so it has been proven to be an intelligent move in the past.)
-Over-defensiveness in an accusation (Obviously some defensiveness is expected, but more-so from Mafia.)
-Driving the answer to the question away from the original question (A common tactic used by politicians to distract from the negative answer to a question.)
To answer your previous question, I put my vote in on you because I suspected that you’d say that Cyntalan’s death was an attempt to frame you, which is why I needed you to answer my question first. I intend to keep it there today unless some substantial evidence arises.
Now keeping in mind that you’ve presented your defence, who will you be pressing for information today/who is your top suspect given recent events?
Lol, the problem with your logic is that if i don’t defend myself i am mafia, if i do, i am mafia.
There is no way to not be a suspect.
As for your 2nd question, before this post of your i had no one, but now i can only think 2 things about you.
A) You are a mafia trying to force the lynch bandwagon agaisnt me.
B) You are a well intentioned civ, but too naive and dumb that is falling for the mafia game as they expected.
If you are A, if i end lynched, when everyone see that i am a roless civ you will end lynched the next day. This would mean that both mafia are inexperienced players since there is no way that both have agreed to go with this plan thinking that it will be a good idea, unless they are trying to make it look the other one good by sacificing one this earlier in the game, there is too much risk.
If you are B, you are doing exactly what the mafia wants. They only need to wait and see if a lynch bandwagon starts against me to jump later on on the day phase, that way they will blend nicely and when everyone see that i am a roless civilian they will jump against you for starting a lynch bandwagon against me, giving them 2 civ kills more besides their night kill. Add all the distraction allowing them to hide nicely.
Well you already are a suspect, and my method of logic has worked twice before in the past (The Chief in South Park and Missing Person in Resident Evil). Both times I didn’t end up following through with these methods, and both times, they ended up Mafia.
Judging by your response, it looks like I’m your primary suspect for today. There are a couple of problems with your thoughts.
-You’re putting up a lot of resistance for a roleless civilian.
-Your A plan starts off by saying I’m Mafia, but I’ll be lynched the following day phase if you turn up roleless. I get a little lost with your train of thought after the first sentence, because you alternate between me being Mafia and not and then something about me sacrificing you?
-Your B plan involves Mafia being among the last to jump on to lynching you, which would end up benefiting us in the long run with them painting large targets on their back.
You’ve given me enough for me to finalise my vote against you for today. If you want me to change my vote, you’ll have to make a compelling case against someone else.
Also, I’m about to head to bed, but I’ll stay up for another 15 minutes or so to answer any remaining questions you have, just so you don’t think I’m going offline to avoid them.
Haha my bad you’d be surprised at some of the stuff that people have done like that though.
At least Cynt confirmed a civ for us. Congrats, ForgeDigger, now do something with it :tup:
I’ve got a feeling AC is civ because of his nighttime UC idea as I don’t think it would have done anything but hurt mafia as far as I could see. Hecatom on the other hand… I think AC is on to something and I know that Hecatom is talking like a framing victim but historically, it seems to me, the mafia goes after threats to themselves over everything else. But as OZ would say, “yomi level 1” strat, at least I think it’d be level one I’m gonna wait to hear everybody else’s $.02 before voting as we have lots of time.
Nah, i will not waste my time defending myself, if all of you decide to off me is your call, just don’t be surprised when you (AlphaComando) end lynched for starting a badwagon against a roless civilian :tup:
Yeah, I think it’d be level 1. Problem is that I can’t see Mafia going for the level 2 strategy. “Who should we frame? I know! Hecatom!” just doesn’t seem plausible to me. There are stronger players that they could’ve framed yesterday and framing him just doesn’t seem likely in my opinion.
@foregdigger okay you’re a confirmed civ my bad but you need to step it up and help us win. If you or anyone else suspects me as mafia because I voted for you, than I can’t really defend myself too much as it’s only logical for anyone to think that, but I assure you guys I’m not mafia.
@alphacommando you have some good ideas but you’re veur complicating things, as I said before its very likely at least one mafia was on the mrmattroxx bandwagon so we need to find out who it is.
Do you guys think we should look at the previous posts and lynch the one who is most suspicious out of those who voted mrmattroxx or should we lynch all 3 to be safe? I ask this because while it’s likely there’s a mafia among exodus, Hecatom, and WAH, it’s also possible we will make a mistake and lynch a civ among them and then be turned off from suspecting one of the other two due to fear of being wrong again which would let that mafia get away free.
I think the inactivity now is a combination of two things, one the amount of people participating has been split into two games, and the people that talk less where put together in this one game.
Is the very same thing that i have been thinking
The bad thing is that there is no discussion at all, right now it think that my dead is almost a given seeing how the things are right now
Just talking about the inactivity doesn’t help us out either. Can some of you start pointing fingers? I don’t want anyone hopping on a lynch wagon until after they’ve voiced their opinion.
