SRK Mini Mafia: Proving Grounds - Team Fortress 2 GAME BLUE - BLU Victory!

good to know we have a confirmed civ… I’m sorry for my inactive-ness I have school and then band practice back to back… It disappoints me how our UC died so early. I’m kind of iffy towards alpha though his plan may seem a bit flawed, he was pretty much spot on in the Resident Evil game with his suspicions on mafia. I’m on and off with supporting Alpha

Sorry guys; rough day.

Man, I’m torn. Hecatom, Augustus, and to a lesser extent OZ are my main current suspects. I don’t have anything that you guys don’t have on em but I’ma see if I can find some quotes on each of em that makes me think that way.

Hecatom
Got super defensive over being in a day one list. Hasn’t handled being pressured well, civs usually just shrug off a lot of accusations because shit is being thrown in everyone’s direction. Not ignore them mind you but just something explaining the misunderstanding. Hecatom on the other hand turned the accusation, incorrectly, around and tried to implicate the guy who called him out.

There is a difference in what you and him were doing though. 50% of your posts were not-exactly-on topic (that’s from your post, somewhere back there I’ll find it if need be) and he was trying to keep a low profile because of his powerful role in a game of this size. He was already a big mafia target because he was the most senior member of SRK mafia in the game so he knew he was at risk and he didn’t want to bring any more attention to himself. You were just posting to let us know you were there and say how little conversation is going on rather than actually try and start a conversation with anything.

Augustus
Some of his posts scream overconfident “Aggro Mafia” like he’s so outspoken that there is no way he could be mafia… look how confidently he posts!

It reads like a taunt :rofl:


I’m just always suspicious of OZ and usually wrong so I’m leaving him blank for now. I wish I had NyQil my fucking allergies are killing me.

I forgot to call that I’m going to jump up on augusts’s list now because I suspect him… bet it :rofl:

12 hours to vote, and 6-9 of those for N.America/S.America people to sleep.

And what, only 2 votes out there?
Or just 1 vote actually.


Alpha Commando and someone else I may be forgetting-

Since you’re going to be awake during this phase while most of us will head to bed and need to check on the thread early, and before noon if we can, with work and other things to do. Kinda redundant, wrote it waiting for new posts.

Its probably your vote to lead this time.

Are you feeling any urgency right now?
What do you think Mafia will do with Forge now that everyone has the same info they have? Kill and last gasp block? Leave him alive just a little bit longer?

Better than all of that, who’s your suspect today and worthy of votes?

Damn, needed two posts anyway.

Are those directed at me? If so, I’m in no rush, provided that everyone else is using this time to analyse everyone instead of just avoiding putting a target on their own backs. If someone’s thinking of a target not previously mentioned, they might want to speak up soon if they want anyone else to follow their vote.

Forge is a tough option for both the Mafia and the Medic. There are three main outcomes I can see from tonight’s kill.

  1. Forge dies to get rid of a confirmed civ.
  2. Mafia targets someone else because they feel that Forge will most likely be protected tonight.
  3. Mafia targets someone else in the hopes that Forge is protected tonight in order to get rid of someone they feel is more of a threat.
    Medic has a tough choice tonight. Either playing it safe by protecting a confirmed civ or making a ballsy move by protecting a player they think will be targeted in the hopes that they get a second confirmed civ via protection.
    With these options, I’m inclined to believe that Mafia will put off killing Forge until the Medic is dead. Of course, we could go on an infinite circle of ‘now that I’ve said that, they may change their minds’, but I just have to have faith in the Medic’s protection skills. The Medic’s been put in a difficult situation, but there is no wrong move for tonight. As for the Last Gasp block, I have a feeling that’ll be saved for after the Medic’s death in order to ensure that it’s not wasted via protection.

Finally, I’m sticking with Hecatom for the reasons listed on the previous page. Whether he’s worthy of votes is up to everyone else in determining if my line of reasoning is legitimate. I will say that he’s sharing a lot of the characteristics of MP in the RE game, and he turned out to be Mafia, so make of that what you will.

I am only going to say that if you really think that i became super defensive or that i handled it wrongly, LMAO.
Really, super defensive, yeah right. Have you played the game before?
That is acting super defensive.
Also i never tried to turn the suspicious to him, i just pointed out that it was ultimately pretty stupid to call someone being barely active when the one making the accusation had only 2 post about nothing prior jumping against other player.
And no, my posts at that point where not 50% off topic, at most 30% which compared to him was more by that time.

Excuse me for trying to post how odd and counter productive was his way of acting, you are acting like if this was your 1st game, seriously.

BTW, this is my last post here i will not try to defend myself since this shit is damn if you do, damn if you don’t with all of you.
Good night and until the next game.

Ooh~ You better keep an eye on me.

Nah. Only if Hecatom is clean. I don’t resent others if I come off as dirty to them. I understand that they’re just blind and fail to see how awesome I am.

Lynch Hecatomb

Sorry, I couldn’t resist.

[quote=“Exodus, post:18, topic:164396”]

Just curious what do you mean we wouldn’t be this time? Do you mean that since inactives get replaced by alternates that we have more of a chance of killing mafia by lynching them?

What do you mean I said 2 were chosen? Sorry but you worded this poorly like most of your lounge posts =P. I do agree however, that it would be irresponsible of PW as game master to put someone without experience and proven skill in the Hale role, still you can’t ignore the possibility of that happening because then we could just go “okay these guys are new they obviously aren’t Hale” and that would skew the game in favor of the civs.

Who was it and why?

As I just said, you can’t completely ignore the possibility that Hale may be a newer and/or lesser experienced player, just for PW to throw a monkey wrench int our expectations for the game. That being said whoever PW picked as Hale did get a choice so now we have to think who would Hale pick? The easiest way to figure this out is for everyone to put themselves in the role of Hale and ask yourself who would you pick to give yo uthe best team chemistry and chance of winning?

If I were Hale I’d choose AC or Cyntalan as my spy with Exodus and Combo_Knight as my possible other choices.

Going by your own reasoning why did you choose to lynch Augustus? He was clearly being sarcastic in his first post and besides as I said before Pertho started the hat shit in the second fucking post of this thread so you should have sided with me in lynching Pertho (which I decided against at the last minute).

I’m surprised you guys ignored this post, I’m curious to know what 2 things you have to lay out for Forgedigger.

Words of a knowledgeable dead man should be heeded. I have more to say on this below.

So why have you not pointed the finger at Combo_Knight? he ha d like what 1 post prior?

Looking at middleground posters is always a smart strat for civs however, inactives can screw that up. still we do see the dead pyro provoking hecatom which is worth noting at least.

So right after our confirmed pyro questions hecatom, we have Combo_Knight finally chiming in to defend him while at the same time offering up a justification for not posting much AKA letting civs die a slow death to night kills while we get no closer to figuring out who’s mafia.

Obviously our pyro was mistaken as was I however, at that point during the game no one could really blame us for we were going with the information we had.

Once again, not mentioning Combo_Knight and jumping on the mrmattroxx bandwagon hmmm.

So even you didn’t think he was mafia yet you still voted him…I guess you wanted to avoid a no lynch.

KEEP THESE RESULTS IN MIND EVERYONE!

How convenient, you show up right after the day1 writeup, and you got away with not throwing your hat into the ring because you know a player can not vote once and still stay in the game as long as it doesn’t happen again, very clever I admit.

So you say there isn’t any downside to fake role claiming now…

One of the only active players here and you throw out a lynch vote without posting your reasoning…why?

I know I’m a civ and we all know Forgedigger is a civ so for you to say one of us is mafia sets off an alarm in my mind, although I don’t expect anyone else to have that reaction naturally. I already have two strong mafia suspects, but your post throws a little bit of a monkey wrench into my suspicions hmmm. I’ll watch you for now.

[quote=“Pimp_Willy, post:139, topic:164396”]

Cyntalan’s last gasp:

Thank you! Let the court record show the dead pyro agrees with my earlier suspicions.

While it’s possible a civ can accuse someone of being mafia only to have the accused later turn out to be civilian as that’s happened plenty of times in this case it does look more likely that you’re mafia and subtly trying to distance yourself from your previous claim so you don’t look as suspicious I mean Cyntalan was the pyro so obviously he knows if his investigation targets are mafia are not. Also the fact that you’re saying it wouldn’t be smart for mafia to kill someone who’s arguing with one sounds like you trying to make us forget how important dat yomi is in mafia games :lol: You’re right though if an accuser dies, turns out to be civ it is only logical to then shift suspicion onto whoever started to accuse the first accuser however, due to what we know so far I’m not sure that’s the route we’ll take…that’s not to say AC will be safe if you’re lynched but we’ll think about it.

Who said anything about grouping up? I simply stated that it would be a high rward to low risk ratio for a mafia to slip in undetected and vote for the most popular lynch target at the time as it’s a tried and true mafia tactic. It only took 2 votes because we have some dumbass inactives/possible mafias so you never know, maybe we’d need 3 votes?

I’m neutral on sunazndude he hasn’t said enough or been in the game long enough to get a read on but that should change very soon.

You’re thinking along my lines so I’m tempted to not suspect you at all for now, but considering the high sense of paranoia these games create we both know that’s impossible :rofl:

If hecatom is lynch I’m not sure if I’d be more suspicious of you or AC…however we’ll cross that bridge if and/or when we come to it. Augustus seemed like an amateur civ at first, and he probably still is, but you never know lol.

Medic would be retarded not to protect Forgedigger as our only active confirmed civ he can be invaluable later on while his death could be catastrophic and by that I mean he might name me as mafia in his last gasp and then you guys would kill me and we’d be down even more but I’m getting off topic. Why would medic protect anyone but him? Medic has no idea who else will most likely be targeted so why take a shot in the dark and have his power be potentially wasted when there is a potential mafia target already known to him?

Who do you feel are the biggest threats to mafia currently? Your answer will be crucial to my next post so hopefully you read this before the dead line.

I’ll assume all of you read my entire post, so it shouldn’t come as a surprise that I think Hecatom and Combo_Knight are both mafia, if neither of them are feel free to lynch me guys. Cyntalan was kinda off but his posts can still lend us insight.

Fuck I quoted a shit ton of posts and responded to them individually…sorry lol oh well I said what I wanted to say.

I’m leaning more towards Combo_Knight than Hecatom but doesn’t look like anyone else is voting for him so, Lynch hecatom

Will change my vote to Combo_Knight if I get support…but I don’t want a no lynch :rofl:

Sorry for posting so late, if any of you see it as a mafia tactic to post late when most of you are asleep well whatever lol it took awhile to quote and read through this thread plus I go t distracted by other threads and stuff =P.

Man, its a good idea to have minimum 2 choices out there. You were the “don’t bandwagon” guy with counting up votes this time.

How any times do we have to inform you what the rules of the game are.
How many Mafia there are.
What color they are.
What roles are and what they do.

You’re lucky nobody lied to you about any of this.

Jesus, that formatting’s gonna make it hard to respond, but I’ll do my best.

*Who was it and why? *
Augustus, because the post you quoted as ‘sarcasm’ certainly didn’t come off as such to me. That was a threat. Threats are fine in this game as long as they’re not as misguided as that one. Pertho’s sarcasm on the other hand was obvious, as indicated by the 2 LOL’s on Pertho’s and the 0 on Augustus’. Interesting to note that Hecatom also disagreed with that post.

One of the only active players here and you throw out a lynch vote without posting your reasoning…why?
Because I suspected that Hecatom would use the ‘They’re trying to frame me’ strategy, but I needed to put some pressure on him first in order to get him to answer my question.

The problem with ‘Medic would be stupid not to protect Forge’ is that Mafia know that they can kill anyone they want as long as it’s not Forge until the Medic is dead. This allows them to eliminate any and all threats that they see without having the usual chance of Medic blocking their kill. Right now, I’m almost inclined to say that knowing Forge is innocent is a crutch for the Medic, because he has to make a tough decision between risking a helpful civ’s death and risking a confirmed civ’s death. Plus, we need to keep doubt in the Mafia’s mind as to whom the Medic is going to protect.

As for the biggest threats to the Mafia, Forge has the most potential because we know that his opinions are unbiased. The only other threats are the people that haven’t been accused of Mafia activity and haven’t stuck their neck out to take a risk. They’re the ones that are more likely to be killed during the night phase.

“Group up” to bandwagon on Mr Mattrox Lynch vote. Your whole day on the same thing that nobody cared enough about and didn’t make sense. You cared more about that than the guy that voted for you.

Already laid those 2 things out about the No Lynch. Cyntalan remembers every day 1 no lynch and argues against it and No Lynching on another day is still possible. Keep up.

Yeah, that would probably help the last civilian role left. Who’s going to role claim Medic especially after your first mention of the roles was to say “medic never say anything!” Then who’s going to role claim a Mafia. I guess I have to say these obvious parts for you to not nitpick. Nobody will be role claiming Pyro either. :cybot:

We could’ve had 2 less lines in there. Doesn’t make any difference about Cyntalan now and nobody cared about my read before the game on that. And it sounds like you still think there’s Hale and he picks 2 Guys for his team! :clown:

I guess “other choices” means “alternates,” Exo & Combo = choices #3, #4 there of course.

Hecatom left without voting? Or is he going to be here in the morning and place a late vote?

He may be a good target, and it looks like he’s the only target today.
I don’t think anyone will vote for orochizoolander now then. He will be deadset on me if I vote for him and get a bandwagon again.

Spoiler

Can you imagine if everyone just voted Pertho. That I also voted Pertho. Then we might not get him replaced. And orochi would have the bandwagon he started all on him and we didn’t have to discuss all of this and waste valuable time.

I’m okay with the bandwagon checking after 2 voting periods at least I said.

3rd candidate for votes is just this late add of Combo_Knight huh?
Based on his post after the voting and saying he didn’t know when the phase was up.

I might be voting alone again here and I did think I should form some kinda truce or at least work with him considering people think we’re good players and saying that at all might get us targeted by Mafia so we don’t have many phases to even play.

It will help orochi get off my back, maybe, and it will get him to make some posts and answer anything new you guys want to ask… so

Lynch: Combo_Knight

And you might want to spell his name right for it to count, Augustus.
Come back to -1 Hecatom vote because you voted for Hecatomb with the B.

While OZ has made some good points, I still don’t think I can trust him fully. Then again, I can’t really trust anyone fully. You’re a bit lower on my suspicion list now.

Fake role-claiming medic… Hmm. I have no idea if this will work.

I still find that plan was kinda faulty, Alpha. If the real UC were to post fake results, how would we use them later? We’d have no idea which were fake and which were not. Still, it doesn’t really incriminate you anymore.

If Augustus were a RED, he’d be pretty freakin good at it. He’s always been aggressive in an odd way so no one can really point fingers at him for that unless they wanted to shoot their own foots.

If WAH is mafia, you guys would have to clue me in. I still don’t have much of an idea of what he’s saying.

I believe sumazndude because I know he has band and stuff.

Exodus. completely strikes me as a civ, but I can’t say he’s innocent. Maybe just really good at being a civ.

Hecatom is an iffy choice. MP panicked as the Godfather in the Death Note game when people started to suspect him too. I think your defense is a little too over the top, but maybe it was a panic attack - after all, no one wants to die in the game except nobly roleless civs. But flaring out like that is what gets people to start noticing you, which isn’t really something anyone wants. Like that little kid in the store that everyone stares at because he wont stop screaming. This can also be interpreted a different way, though. Why would a mafia get himself noticed like that? Hindsight, maybe? Or maybe they wouldn’t. They’d probably downplay any attack towards them. Eureka! So the real question is: is Hecatom a bad mafia, or a scared civ? I’m leaning towards the latter. There’s also the yomi level 2 thing, where he may have hoped to give off a civ read by flaring out because mafia would never do that.

sigh This is tricky. I’m not going to jump on a bandwagon just because it’s a bandwagon. But Hecatom is the only guy I really have an idea about. If you’re a civ… I’m really sorry. Lynch Hecatom

Well we wouldn’t use the fake results. If the real UC were to post fake results, it would be to prevent Mafia from thinking that they’re the real UC, meaning that they wouldn’t get lynched in the UC hunt, and if they were, an LG block wouldn’t be used on them (and could post the real results in the LG). Either way, we can’t use the plan this game anyway.

I think I’m gonna have to


Lynch: Hecatom***

For now.

I feel like the spy pair we have may be OZ, and Hecatomb.

OZ’s definitely a hale, the man’s been out for too much blood, and Hecatom, well he’s throwing himself up now