SRK Mafia XVIII: Phoenix Wright - Back in Session -- Turnabout Icege (GAME OVER -- CIVILIANS WIN!)

Sacrifice can only be used at night, in lieu of mafia’s standard night kill.

So Dandy would need to off himself to throw confusion into the pot? Sounds like bullshit unless he was an alt.

I also don’t like how a bunch of people who played this format before conveniently forgot that this was a possibility, yet a noob like me remembered.

In fact, I’m fosing anyone who made no mention of the possibility of a sacrifice before I posted that. So that’s:
crucades
Blindknagg
gcl
Icege
Augustus
jasonC
TGG
Chief
Hecatom
SoVi3t
Pimp Willy

The bolded people especially.

Think about this: why not? There is no down side to doing it. Start the game with people thinking that their lifeline is gone. There’s a legitimate yomi strategy behind this.

To @TGG and Pimp:
Same as above. UC would’ve arguably been too obvious as a sacrifice. You see what’s happened now that the medic may or may not be dead? We’re questioning whether or not they’d ‘waste’ their ability on medic when they could do it on a UC.

Implying I’ve played a game where night kill sacrifice was a thing.

Also I was under the wrong assumption of how the ability worked. I thought it was used to disguise a correct mafia lynch as civ mislynch.

It’s a good possibility honestly.

It was the ONLY possibility until we look and see that Dandy sort of gave himself away.

My issue is, for a new player, are you willing to let yourself get offed Night 1 to give your brethren an advantage? I mean, that kind of kills some of the fun. It’s something you have to take into account. If it was someone like PW getting Night Killed I’d believe in Sacrifice a bit more. Proven vet, limited availability to the game, could easily get away with it.

But to toss a rookie out gives them no discernible advantage. Plus, the Medic still being alive would be proven within a Phase. If you’re going to Sac you’d be better off pretending to be one of the UCs to have the Civilians believe that their ability to look at UC options is gone, that way you nail them on two advantages.

All in all, the more you look into it the more it just seems like Dandy was a rookie who slipped up a bit too much as he was given a Special Role right away. Mafia really gains nothing from a Sacrifice in this way.

If they wasted it on a fake medic kill then I’m happy

Saitsu

I don’t think the player has to give their consent, the godfather makes the choices

Even so it still makes no sense for this to happen. Though in other thinking, that would be ridiculously douchey of them. I’m going to assume if he was sacced he wasn’t forced into it otherwise there would be no guarantee of Dandy not dropping dime.

Yay I wasn’t bolded.

I don’t believe for a second the guy was sacrificed. I wouldn’t waste my time thinking Mafia opted for that route.

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@ForgeDigger‌ I like the theory but reading further in to it the sacrifice would get a last gasp and unless they didnt know, they picked a poor one to play mind games with.

@MP was Dandy’s last gasp really just :c or is it still pending?

That was Dandy’s LG as sent to me, he is now in the LL.

FD trying to hardest to direct attention away from the dudes who D1 murked a jury (whom he was part of) and bog down some bullshit conspiracy. Interesting.

I want to see this from a risk reward ratio and the context
Context
Night 1, (maybe all?) players have not established trust between each other

Risks,
They lose one of their players early on the game
The sacrifice is a new player who is suspected to be Pistol Shrimp
Leaving aside that he is not PS, is a new player who probably the majority don’t consider a huge lost outside the role
Give the Vigi 1 ammo

Rewards
Make us believe that we don’t have maya on our side
Give the Vigi 1 ammo

Context and Risk make me think that there is more to lose than gain

@forgedigger I never mentioned sacrifice, either. I’m disinclined to believe it was one. If it was then the real McCoy should assume with some degree of certainty that the Capcoms recruited. Which is only helpful to that person, in the off chance they exist.

I’m also uncomfortable with a subtle suggestion being made here.

I already know my target for today’s phase. I just want to see if he slips up a bit more.

How does giving the vigilante a stock constitute a “reward” for the Capcoms, @hecatom?

And honestly. What would pretending to kill the medic do to us? Take the wind out of our sails? I don’t see it.

@ForgeDigger‌, I’m lost, why am I on your list in bold? Why isn’t @icege isn’t in bold?
What are you implying?

@radicalfuzz #56 (third from last) is a civ, by the way. I’d bet my life on it.