SRK MAFIA XVII - ATTACK ON TITAN:End of Day 8 - The Grim Reminder (Civilians lose!)

Oh, poor Augustus lol. Wrong again about me, but understandably given my play this game. Im probably playing better than most mafia.

Yes, I agree, JasonC fits the bill of the dormant lover (even though I made a huge case against William possibly being the dormant lover). But evidence from oz makes it seem like JasonC instead, and we already know he likes to leave clues. Jason legit defended OZ, so oz didnt give us his name to give him a fighting chance.

Lynch JasonC guys, he’s screaming mafia at this point and Auggy agrees. Even as I write this Im hesitant to post because whatever I want will taint the civs due to my negative perception.

Ok. Pimp we are perfectly ok and the leisure to make bad lynches.

The purpose of my post was to express urgency and the fact that Cyntalan was trying to set us up. If you want to say I’m dirty because my sense of urgency was too high, be my guest. I’ll lol… but still, be my guest.

You already, stated, “Why do we NOT lynch Cyntalan”. I guess that’s your pay this phase. Let’s see how that works out for you. My vote is not changing. And I’m gong to keep a close eye on how difficult this lynch will be for you. I fully expect the suspects I named to be on the fence on whether to vote you off until the last second.

…I think I’m gonna have popcorn for lunch today.

Good read on Cynt Augustus, but he stole your thunder I’m afraid. He’s a jerk like that.

They crash for 2 days though, meaning they tie up the vote for 3 days.

Worst Case, if its 12-6, it becomes 11-7 after recruit + night kill, no lynch again the next day, 10-7 after the next night kill, we lynch Cynt making it 10-6, then they night kill to make it 9-6.

From 12-6 to 9-6, with 0 potential for mafia dying over the next 3 days outside of the recruit body guard, would be a deal I’d take hands down.

Though I’d wager its closer to 10-5 at the end of the exchange.

Letting Cynt die puts it at 11-6, or 12-5

I’m not trying to mess with you. And just because you are confirmed civ, doesn’t mean you can’t play mind games as well. I wasn’t sure what your playstyle was like - I guess that’s the misunderstanding.

I think you’re the mafia mastermind, yes. I’ve already been wrong all game, if Im wrong again whats the difference. The way you went for the jugular, and you did it in such a way that oozes smugness, is something I would do as mafia; and I think you’re doing it to rub it in my face knowing that I’m civ and that theres not much I can do to stop the impending backlash from me being wrong all game

I’m not a titan Aug and I hope that you’re not going to get me killed this game because of that one vigi kill that happened ages ago :coffee:

I agree on D’nyc3/rectime though. @RECESSIONTIME‌ have been even more silent than in the previous game which he was a part of and got DQ’d because of a valid reason (computer/net problems).

When was the last time we lynched a wallflower btw? It would be a perfect place to hide if you’re mafia or dormant and if you’ve played on here before you know that the chances of getting lynched early in the game are slim.

One problem though is that the last time he was mafia he was active and took part in discussions but no player is static and can’t change their game up. I also don’t like how he drops in once in a blue moon (if even that) so there’s that.

@RF, I didn’t take his Bious’ post at face value. When you’re excited about something that puts you in a better position but you don’t want to appear to be, be the first to say something about it…

By that logic the plan would be that Bious & Pimp were playing “good civ bad civ” by having one point out the obvious “he’s trying to help us” factor and the other pointing out the “why” factor.

You can have your popcorn. As for me, toast sounds pretty good right about now.

By the way @Vynce you’re confirmed civ, unless Hecatom comes back with an affirmative on the following question.

@Hecatom if the Mafia attempt to recruit someone who’s already Mafia will the writeup say that a recruit failed?

That’s true, I keep forgetting you guys have to factor in when I’m lying even though I’m confirmed. I wasn’t trying to be aggressive and/or annoyed, it’s just been really weird and bugging me all game. That explains a few other interesting exchanges as well, actually, thanks for helping me understand.

When in the history of mafia have I ever done anything just to rub something in someone’s face? lol good luck selling that theory. You could very well be the mastermind or is that not possible? I only had 1 vote going in to the World Series of Mafia. You, Syn and RF had the c overwhelming advantage. I don’t get praise for being good at that and I don’t hunger for recognition that comes with making the reads. You said it yourself, you only remember the big plays from roles. As a role-less civ, I’m just a player.

If you want to be technical, how about we lynch you just to ensure you don’t push bad lynches anymore? Is that cool?

Except I already said that the only reason multiple “civs” should save were due to mistrust. Then I remembered Fuzz was the constant variable and could do that without any worries of mistrust.

I was fighting sleep that whole time. Nodding off repeatedly, in fact. Fell asleep a moment after my last post before the night, snapped back awake realizing I missed my vote. That was all reality.

Eh, it’s less that I wanted to become mafia and more that I gave 'em one more chance to realize my hints before I said “fuck it” and died like a civ.

To be honest, my last hint was so transparent I expected to get recruited and then offed the next day by the civs.

wow, apparently I’m very misleading this go around

Day 3 Info Dump

-Flow of information restricted with Synonym lynch.
-Most information already contained in voting patterns.
-Day 3 information relates to individual players rather than thread information. Will come back to if case against player needs to be made.

Night 3 Info Dump

-[REDACTED]

If true, means that Nights 1 and 2 were either:
-Investigation
-Successful recruit

Following questions have (to my knowledge) not been asked, but rather assumed.
@Hecatom, does the write-up reflect if a recruit was unsuccessful?
Was the part of the story about Vynce a reflection on Mafia unsuccessfully attempting to recruit Vynce?
Does the write-up reflect an investigation?

-Cyntalan Dormant role claim. Lynch today unnecessary as still Civilian. Order of lynch preference:

  1. Starting Mafia.
  2. Dormant Lover.
  3. Cyntalan.
  4. Remaining 2 Dormants.

Contributions taken from here: forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/comment/9862260/#Comment_9862260 Update lists accordingly when appropriate.

Remaining Players Sorted Into Groups

Note: The following list is made from my opinion and may not necessarily accurately reflect the nature of the following players.
Most Likely Civilians
-LordWilliam1234
-The Chief
-Pimp Willy
-The Co-Jones

High Contributors (Descending Order, >=30 posts)
-Pimp Willy
-jasonC
-Skizzz
-Blindknagg
-DukeC
-The Chief
-AlphaCommando
-Cyntalan
-LordWilliam1234

Low Contributors (Ascending Order, <30 posts)
-Vynce (Expected)
-RECESSIONTIME
-Icege
-D’Nyc3
-The Co-Jones
-DarkGeneral
-Combo_Knight
-Sumazndude
-Bious

SUGGESTION: Lynch one of top low contributors. Current personal target: Denise.

D’nyc3 Breakdown

Posts (All, not select):

Spoiler

Possibly already posted in Mafia PM.

Generic.

No explanation.

Response to being questioned.

Reasonable logic for new player.

Zero explanation. Filler contribution.

Final post. Most important. Confirms that PM had been sent to Hecatom. Was D’Nyc3’s first attempt to vote. Hecatom did not correct tallies, therefore PM invalid. Most probable theory: Vote was posted to Mafia PM.

Voting Patterns:
Day 1 - Did not vote.
Day 2 - Orochizoolander (Not made public)
Day 3 - Did not vote.

Current leader in suspicion from thread: Pimp Willy

Pros of lynching Denise
-If Mafia, eliminate 1 of 4-7
-If Civilian, discourages wallflowers from further wallflowering, removes liability from Civilians.

Cons of lynching Denise
-Being new player, may not want to participate in future games (Irrelevant to game, emotional response).
-If Civilian, loss of Civilian number.

Pros of lynching Pimp Willy
-If Mafia, eliminate strong member, possibly leader.
-If Civilian, potential information gained from death (Irrelevant, information from previous deaths widely ignored).

Cons of lynching Pimp Willy
-If Civilian, lose valuable asset, high contributor.
-Reinforces safety in wallflowering.

Lynch: D’Nyc3

Not locked in.

Looking for support from players that previously mentioned desire to lynch Denise/other wallflowers.

So we already have 4 names that have come up for lynch this phase alone.

Cyntalan
Pimp Willy
JasonC
D’Nyc3

This is not good. It’s just more misdirection for the mafia the stretch.

D’Nyc3 has 0 traction. It’s extremely strange for you to lock in on him instantly like that AC.

Pimp Willy has been on all of the dead civs suspects list and is still alive.

JasonC has been on everyone’s radar and he’s likely Pimps doorway to absolve himself of suspision.

Cyntalan is a dormant civ.

I think we should keep the votes on these two:

Pimp Willy
JasonC

JasonC if mafia will likely just be a recruited dormant being sacrificed or a Titan who was regarded as less needed for mafia to win given the current circumstances.

Cynt why are you defending your actions after you roleclaimed pseudo-Mafia? I mean, there’s no reason to at this point lol

Alpha what makes D stand out from Icege, or RT, or DG? Why lynch him when he’s 1/3 on votes and likely to get DQd?

This is true, but when I made that accusation it was under the belief that – like you said – 1 wrong lynch and it was over. After looking over the math I see thats not the case, so it’s less likely.

I still 100% believe you’re on the mafia. But, I really think we need to vote JasonC off today.

Vote counts coming soon.

Over 30 hours remaining in Day phase. Illogical to keep suspicions secret under the pretense of thread already having suspects. Reasons for lynching D’Nyc3 and not lynching Pimp Willy elaborated in previous post. Players should be locking in votes as late as possible, therefore debate about suspects should be publicised early in the phase.

I feel that JasonC is the lover. Mafia likely don’t care if he dies as he has no role to them.

Pimp Willy is the one I’m most concerned of. Constant bad reads by a veteran smells like misdirection, I’d feel a lot better to lynch Pimp today and possibly cause the wall crash.

Strange though, I looked back at the dead civs suspect reads and PW is on their lists.

Lynch Pimp Willy

Not locked in.

I gonna be reading the thread some more today but my head is hurting and I’m gonna want to lie down…