SRK MAFIA XVI - Shards of Alara: Sign-ups Begin!

Thank you.

I was eager not to die as medic on day 1 again.

Kill Missing Person.

I’m currently in the process of trying to fix this. I still haven’t heard back from most of the people that I’d have liked to have heard back from but I want to make something clear:

It’s tentative, but a solution has been found. The game will start soon-ish, but obviously not quite on time. I’ll keep everyone as updated as possible, and that probably won’t be until quite a bit later today. Thank you for your patience as Forge & I try to fix our mistake.

  • Sorry to pile on to @ForgeDigger‌ and @RadicalFuzz‌ problems but I’m afraid I’m going to have to bow out of this game. You’ll have to find someone to replace me, I’m so sorry for doing this to you two at the 11th hour.

When I mentioned earlier that I’ll step aside for some new blood to get in, I also said it because I’ve been pretty busy in my personal life and dealing with a few things I’d rather not mention. When the game would have started I would have probably been halfassing it due to time and concentration constraints. So instead of bringing down the level of play, and not being able to give this game my all, I’m just going to bow out.

I hope everyone understands, specially you two, Forge and Fuzz. *

*On the plus side though, the interview I conducted with Syn and Missing Person will be posted very soon. So stay tuned! . *

So, I heard there’s a Mafia game goin’s on in this thread.

Rat-ta-tat-tat, bitches.

:tup:

And here I was expecting to trademark a picture, but the game hasn’t even started

Dark General: This is DarkGeneral here with two of our best players. Hell, they probably are our two best players. These two players have nailed many a mafia, and deceived many a people, when not spilling the beans about who their partners are. The two people I’m talking about are, of course, Missing Person and Synonym.
Dark General: Say hello, Syn and MP.
Synonym: Hey guys, I’m Magneto
Missing Person: God damn…already with the RE fail jokes.
Synonym: I restrained myself
Missing Person: I should’ve warned my agent I can’t be interviewed in these conditions.
Dark General: DarkGeneral, the interviewer, has no restraints.
Dark General: I’ll start my first question with you Missing Person. Since I brought up the subject of the Resident Evil game, do you mind telling our wonderful playerbase about what happened in the Resident Evil themed mafia game. If I recall correctly, it was played off site.
Dark General: This is somewhat of an infamous incident in which you’re known for, and I think I’d like to officially ask you about what happened.
Missing Person: Short answer: I got screwed by the website and I still won that game.

Long answer: I was having the game of my life. I had drawn Godfather. I had Shadowwolf82 in his first mafia game playing as enforcer, I ultimately got my RL friend Azure as silencer. We played that game perfectly.
Dark General: Then what happened?
Missing Person: I had went in on Sajin Shasaya for never contributing and doing an OMGUS vote for him. Then I killed him at night and had Azure silence me to make it look like I was beong framed.
Missing Person: That held up for the longest time. I even had Azure go in on me a bit so that when he died it’d look like he was trying to get me mislynched.
Missing Person: Even got Mobius, the UC, killed and found out Alpha was medic. Had the entire game tell me that neither I or Shadow was a priority lynch. While hunting for the serial killer…I posted a list for shadow so we would be able to narrow it down.
Missing Person: That list wound up in the game thread with my role and Shadow’s role listed.
Missing Person: Then Synonym turned out to be the serial killer, and he was our next enforcement.
Synonym: From memory, I didn’t submit anything that next night to avoid being confirmed as SK.
Missing Person: But had played it so well that I only got to him by process of elimination.
Missing Person: Yeah, but of course by then you knew who we were down to so it did help you not to get confirmed.
Synonym: MP was so explicit that I couldn’t kite any further than final 3.
Synonym: When those final thre included AC as the confirmed Medic and GR as a confirmed civ
Synonym: *three
Dark General: So from this, we can conclude that you did extremely well in the Resident Evil Game Synonym. How did you feel when Missing Person ousted who the mafia were? Did it throw any monkey wrenches into how you planned on winning the game?
Synonym: Well, it completely destroyed any chance I had of winning the game.
Synonym: I’m actually still annoyed at some of my decisions in that game.
Synonym: I had MP as my N1 investigation target, that if I’d kept it would have told me he was the GF as well as given me the ability to kill from N2 onwards.
Synonym: But I changed it at the last minute to RadicalFuzz of all people
Synonym: I also was going to kill AC but with MP posting that list and them targeting me for enforcement I couldnt afford to doso.
Synonym: *do so
Missing Person: I will say this. Synonym left a big impression on me after that game. I remember Azure and I talking about night kills during one phase and we literally said, “Synonym’s too good. We can’t kill him.” We were afraid of the LG.
Synonym: Like I said, I made Final 3 but with that list I couldn’t go any further. So, in a sense, MP did get me killed.
Synonym: Haha, that’s a nice sentiment. Thanks for not killing me!
Missing Person: He never got on the radar as Wesker until the end. I knew he was going to be a dangerous player.
Dark General: That’s 2 interesting statements you just made Missing Person. From the first time you played with Synonym you could tell that he would be a strong player. What about him exactly told you that “this is guy is extremely good”?
Missing Person: There was general tone he was throwing around. He never was on a single radar. Everything he said was fluid. He made good pushes and had good questions and good opinions on the general flow.
Missing Person: That’s stuff that people usually don’t have from the start.
Dark General: The other statement that you said that I’m curious about is that you were afraid of his last gasp. It’s recently come to my attention that Last Gasps are something that are SRK centric and not really a standard practice in other mafia games. Recently however, it’s seem that Lasts Gasps have become less of a factor. I think that as our players have grown stronger they’ve relied less on last gasps because we’ve all grown strong reads for playing so much with each other. What’s your opinion on the state of Last Gasps?
Synonym: Brace for impact!
Missing Person: If we’re going to have LGs it’s time to put on your reading glasses kiddies and read them. I don’t know how many people it takes saying to lynch so and so in a LG before you catch on.
Missing Person: A lot of people think it favor civs. I can see where it does on paper. But in practice? It really depends.
Missing Person: I mean Mobius cleared me in RE to where I was not going to get lynched in time for the civs to win.
Missing Person: But then if someone nails mafia, but no one listens, then it’s irrelevant.
Missing Person: So they’re only factors inasmuch as they are accurate and attended to.
Missing Person: I also never got out of LG mode in this game and never made final thoughts in the GoC game near the end of day.
Dark General: Your Last Gasp got ignored in the last game by the majority of people. However I, myself, was waiting on what you were going to say about LimeGreenPie…errr Potato so I could push for his lynch. Of course, everyone continued to ignore LGP and civs went into a crazy downward spiral… On the flipside I recall a game where a certain cinnamon made a last gasp that busted 3 or 4 mafia in a row. And all the civs followed it and won.
Dark General: Synonym, do you remember that game? What game was that, can you tell me what lead you to those reads? I always remember that game as the point where it was undedniable that you were sitting on the top of the hill along with the other certfied top players.
Synonym: Haha, this might sound really bad but I don’t remember the game. If I had to guess I’d say it was probably the Music Legends one?
Dark General: Bingo.
Synonym: I had to try and remember which games I got killed in.
Synonym: I don’t know if I’d say I’m sitting at the top, but I am happy with my performance in a lot of our games.
Dark General: How modest.
Synonym: Shoutouts to Pimp Willy and Fuzz for my Ego battle with Augustus
Synonym: There was a question in there too, right.
Synonym: Umm, I honestly don’t remember what my reads were.
Dark General: I remember it was Oerba who was skirting completely under the radar.
Dark General: I believe DukeC, if he wasn’t dead. I want to say ForgeDigger and someone else.
Dark General: I remember the list was about 3 people or 4 people deep. "Lynch these guys in this order"
Synonym: I’m going back through that game to find my LG
Synonym: OH YEAH
Synonym: Thanks for pointing out that LG, DG. I was actually just starting to try a new technique in it
Synonym: The first thing I tried was tagging civilians and making them accountable
Synonym: By naming names and making it personal I was trying to avoid the common bystander effect associated with LG’s. Where people sort of read them then don’t want to be the one to act on them.
Missing Person: I’m totally stealing that now, I hope you know
Synonym: That game was the one with the hidden roles. I got hit by a serial killer. Fortunately, because we have Last gasps I was able to get that revelation out after my death.
Synonym: Haha, good to know.
Synonym: But yeah, I then took a page from OZ’s book and modified it slightly.
Synonym: I have no idea why I chose the order the way I did. Maybe it was my most _> Least certain of being mafia, I don’t recall.
Dark General: I tried to steal that move from you in the last mafia game. It’s where I got my last gasp list and how I sounded from. Of course everyone ignored me.
Synonym: But I basically made a mandate for the civs to listen to me, only until I was wrong.
Synonym: To be fair, I was trying to make everyone ignore you in that game
Dark General: Why me! I’m not even good!
Synonym: You sell yourself way too short.
Synonym: I meant every word I said when I placed you in the mastermind category
Synonym: I could definitely see you cooking up a plan like that to run train on the civilians.
Missing Person: DG is analytical enough to make things fire right. He’s got good reads.
Synonym: Exactly.
Dark General: Hey, this isn’t about me.
Synonym: And you’re a force of nature in Arena games :slight_smile:
Synonym: Haha, turn around is fair play.
Missing Person: Too late. Now the inmates run the asylum.
Dark General: :frowning:
Synonym: So DG, why did you get into mafia?
Missing Person: B)
Dark General: Well doctor…
Dark General: Jokes aside, I wanted to ask you both why you got into Mafia games.
Dark General: MP, you’re one of our longest tenured members by my understanding. You’ve worn a lot of different hats during your time on SRK mafia. You’ve GM’d multiple games, played in a bevy of games and overall been a big fixture here in SRK mafia games.
Dark General: However I’m out on where your actual origin comes from. So, Missing Person, when did you start playing mafia on SRK? What was your first game?
Missing Person: I got in on the Zombie Apocalypse game, SRK VI. I needed an outlet for the shitty year I had had, and SoVi3t told me I’d enjoy the game. So I signed up, not knowing what the hell I was doing, and got hooked.
Missing Person: I mean I read that game now and I was so scrubby.
Missing Person: Like I pointed suspicion at Black Jesus for zero reason whatsoever on day 1.
Missing Person: But the mental aspect of it kept me coming back. I was more than happy to jump in when Beta made the next game.
Missing Person: And I haven’t missed a game I’ve been eligible for since.
Dark General: Synonym, was your first mafia game the resident evil theme?
Synonym: It sure was.
Dark General: What hooked you into mafia? What compelled you to keep playing?
Synonym: Well, for what got me into mafia I have a confession that I’ll answer in a second.
Synonym: What’s kept me playing is how fun mafia is on SRK.
Synonym: I really like the personailities we have, and the general game atmosphere we have.
Synonym: Or personalities.
Synonym: As for what got me into it, I have actually been pleading ignorance since Game 1.
Synonym: I know AlphaCommando in real life, we met at university and play video games together occasionally.
Synonym: He told me about the South Park game, and I originally told him I wasn’y interested.
Dark General: Two frogs in a sack.
Synonym: I never told him that I read the tail-end of that game and saw the link to forge’s game.
Synonym: I didn’t want there to be any thoughts of collusion so I signed up under an alias and denied all knowledge of him.
Synonym: This was all before I knew about Team Texas knowing each other in real life and it being acceptable.
Missing Person: LOL I totally thought it was sheer coincidence.
Synonym: I just sort of ran with it since then.
Dark General: I always had that suspicion actually.
Synonym: Yeah, I’m not much of a gamer and I know next to nothing about the FGC.
Missing Person: Can we call this Aussiegate?
Dark General: The point that really settled it was AC’s and Syn’s “North vs South aussie” talk.
Synonym: Ahh
Synonym: Well, we do live a ffair distance apart.
Synonym: To be honest, I’m surprised it fooled him for so long.
Dark General: Well you ARE good at playing mafia. Deception shouldn’t be too surprising.
Missing Person: Even he didn’t know?
Synonym: Haha. Well either way it’s out in the open now.
Dark General: Who said interviews don’t reveal the truth?
Synonym: That’s also one of the reasons I sat out the FGC mafia game.
Missing Person: That actually makes your stock even higher IMO.
Synonym: I felt there would be too many in-jokes that I would miss.
Dark General: Well, that is pretty telling how cool our little community is. You don’t play much games or anything like that, yet mafia keeps you coming back for more.
Missing Person: Now I no longer feel bad for giving you guys the same accent in EOW.
Synonym: Absolutely. I’m an extremely casual gamer. I like gaming just fine, I just don’t have anywhere near enough downtime to regularly enter into it.
Dark General: hahaha MP.
Synonym: Well, AC has a much milder accent than I do just FYI.
Dark General: Milder by whose account?
Synonym: Team Texas.
Dark General: There’s a joke somewhere in there, but I can’t seem to find it.
Missing Person: I’ve actually heard both too. And yeah Syn has a pretty thick one. You can tell who he is easily.
Synonym: Yeah, something about texans, accents and Aussies.
Missing Person: This ain’t one of them thurr jokes now ain’t it?
Synonym: But yeah, back to the point you mentioned it is definitely the personalitites that kept me on SRK.
Synonym: Plus the GD is pretty amusing.
Dark General: The unofficial tagline of GD is "GD is where you come to when you retired from playing fight games seriously"
Missing Person: That pretty much works for Syn. I’d play a lot more seriously if I wasnt spending so much time on mafia.
Dark General: MP, are there any players from the old Mafia games that you miss playing with? Who and why?
Missing Person: Beta is an instant answer. To be quite honest, he was indirect mentor for me and how to look at the game. NoodleHead was also really awesome to play with and I wish he’d return.
Dark General: How was SWBeta a mentor to you?
Missing Person: I remember his LG and his postgame talk in my first game. Warning new players not to hold hands and beat around the bush, but to push people to contradict themselves.
Missing Person: Like I learned a lot from playing with him that one game. Then in the allstars game he taught me a lot about thinking outside the box as mafia.
Missing Person: It didn’t work for us in that game but it was the approach I used in Resident Evil.
Dark General: I can totally see that influence in your game. You’re probably one of the most aggressive members when it comes to pressure.
Missing Person: I still suffer from a bit of backing off. I think being right about Forge in Musical Legends and backing off her made cured me of that.
Dark General: That’s actually a question I had in mind. In the all star-game you got lynched really early. Day 2 if I recall correctly, for the life of me I can’t figure out how they busted you that quick.
Dark General: Why do you think the Civs figured you out?
Dark General: Or rather, how?
Missing Person: I played on my heels too much in that game. My tone definitely changed. I wasn’t pushing players at all. Or I would and then back off them.
Dark General: I also wanted to ask you why you recruited SWBeta out of everyone, but me and our readers should be able to make an educated guess on the why. In no small part thanks to your last response.
Missing Person: it was exactly that. He was the player I respected most in the game and I figured having his expertise would be a tremendous asset.
Missing Person: And it was, just not in that game.
Dark General: I loved the move he tried to pull to seal his status as “confirmed civ”. It didn’t pan out, but that move always stuck in my mind. Just like Fuzz’s BRILLIANT play in that game.
Missing Person: We actually had a secret play we were considering if either of us got cleared. It could’ve blown up in our faces I’m not going to say it because I still consider using it as mafia and don’t want to telegraph my play.
Missing Person: But there was definitely some high gamble ideas we threw around
Dark General: For those of you not in the know reading this. In the all star game, I believe RadicalFuzz pulled medic. He put in a protect on himself the night that SWBeta went to kill fuzz.
Synonym: Ahh, I didn’t follow that game so it’s good to know.
Dark General: I believe then Fuzz claimed medic. The following night SwBeta put in a kill on himself, hoping that Fuzz would protect him as the civs were doing a process of elimination.
Dark General: SwBeta was the only mafia left and he would eventually get lynched. It was a ballsy play that didn’t pan out, but that impressed the hell out of me.
Dark General: MP, is my memory right or am I a little off?
Missing Person: I can’t remember if that was the plan or if he had just given up and committed suicide
Dark General: I read it as a high risk, high reward play.
Missing Person: I remember there being a lot of heat on Beta then so I don’t think Fuzz was protecting him at all
Dark General: The only roles in the game was medic, mafia and I think UC.
Missing Person: Yeah that’s correct.
Dark General: From my recollection the heat was on Beta, but he wasn’t completely in the hot seat yet. I think he could have stalled for another phase. Specially since Pimp Willy had claimed mafia. The civs were playing a really lame game and was going to do a process of elimination as they let the mafia do the night killing.
Dark General: Pimp Willy, wanting to mix things up, and maybe getting nervous that he was finally going to wn, decided to claim mafia.

Dark General: Some people might not know this, but your first game here on SRK was the Blu TF2 rookie challenge game that Pimp Willy GM’d. A game you played with me, and a game in which we got obliterated by the mafia. It was also, coincidentally enough, the last game that the mafia side won. That is, until you creamed all us lowly civs in the DBZ game.
Dark General: What I want to ask you is what did losing the rookie game do to you?
Synonym: I’m actually pretty disappointed in my play that game. I had no idea how to play the civilian role or work as a team. It was fine in the RE game because I was flying solo but trying to work as a town I had no clue. Especially because I completely overlooked the wallflower GR mafia play.
Synonym: It did help improve my game though and forced me to grow. Though there are still a number of aspects to my game that I want to improve upon.
Dark General: Do you mind saying what those aspects are?
Synonym: Sure, there are a few that I’m not going to bring up because they’re flaws in my mafia game.
Synonym: But some of the overall ones I want to work on are not getting so worked up by people with strong personailities
Synonym: Or personalities.
Synonym: I tend to tunnelvision them to the exclusion of others.
Synonym: I also have a hard time understanding people who ignore rational explanations
Synonym: These usually end up giving me false positives against them.
Dark General: That’s interesting. Real interesting. Most people, from the best to the worst, have people they seem to have a better time reading. While others completely escape them.
Dark General: For example I’m completely uncapable at knowing if Manx is civ or mafia. In every single game, except the one time in the Blu game, I always got Manx’s alignment wrong. I don’t know what it is, but it’s always the opposite. The only reason he even showed up on my radar in the DBZ game was because you tried to slip his name in without people realizing it.
Dark General: I noticed that you’ve mentioned HAX and OZ have a way of distracting you from the other players. If I’m right, what is it about them that makes them a priority for you?
Dark General: What about their styles, or personalities, throws you off your usually rock solid game?
Synonym: The problem that I have with players like WAH or OZ is that they post almost stream of conscious. It confuses me, because it often leads to a lot of contradictions. It can also lead to them appering to try too hard to appear innocent, or they make silly (in my books) plays that I just can’t comprehend. Also, they both tend to not retract their statements when proven wrong but continue to argue their former position. It’s just stuff like that that I can’t get an accurate read on.
Synonym: *appearing

Dark General: So would I be accurate in saying that certain things that you would normally categorize as “scummy”, are traits that these two normally exhibit in your eyes?
Dark General: MP, do you run into the same problem? Is there anyone that just throws you off your game?
Missing Person: Actually Syn I’m surprised I don’t get clumped into the stream of conscious. I have been very guilty of that.
Missing Person: Actually Syn for me is really hard to read. I was very fortunate that the way I played at him in the GoC managed to seal him as civ in this game, but he is hard for me to read. Sumazndude also gives me trouble.
Dark General: SAD is a curious case. You don’t really get a lot of information out of him. He’s there, looming, waiting, watching.
Dark General: Plus it’s almost impossible for him to NOT get a role.
Missing Person: In retrospect, considering I thought I had a lock on Manx last game, I’d say him too.
Dark General: Actually MP, you seem to draw roles alot yourself. Do you think getting roles so often has a big effect on how the playerbase views you?
Missing Person: I certainly believe it makes you a heavier target for the night kill. It definitely pushes you to maintain consistency in posting patterns so that mafia don’t read you for roles and civs don’t read you for mafia.
Missing Person: I think that’s often why Sumazndude holds up well with roles. He’s so consistent with what he does that no one knows what he’s holding.
Missing Person: But for me, that’s really hard to keep up every game.
Synonym: To answer your first question DG, I see those sort of actions as attemtps to deceive, but it usually just eventuates that it’s how they genuinely think.
Missing Person: But even though I’ve drawn a lot of roles (Fun fact: I currently have the longest active streak of roles.) I feel like it shouldn’t matter so much because statistically I have the same chance of being roleless as anyone else.
Synonym: I’ve actually spoken to OZ on Skype once and that single call put a lot of his thought processes into perspective for me. He speaks very much like he types.
Synonym: What’s your role streak MP? I think I’ve had roles in all but two of my games.
Missing Person: 7 games in a row.
Synonym: And, I agree that Manx is pretty hard to get a read on, but SAD is pretty easy to read once you recognise some of his mannerisms.
Missing Person: Actually Augustus would be my easiest to read. Not to say he’s bad, but I can often lock in on him pie and kaz very early.
Dark General: What about your boy Azure?
Missing Person: I’ve often used the kaz read as a scapegoat when I’m mafia so I almost think people think I’m lying about reading him by day 2, but this is a legit read that has worked for me.
Dark General: Oh, I believe you. I thought Azure was the same, or am I missremembering?
Missing Person: Azure is also hard to read. He is smart, and I know the level of deception he can keep up from working with me on Trannygate.
Missing Person: I had him read right in DR then had him wrong in the Vampires game.
Missing Person: So it can be a blessing or a curse that I know him pretty well. I know he’d be capable of deceiving me in game and I would have my blinders on due to friendship
Missing Person: If you asked him he’d probably say he’d read me well and be able to spot me as mafia quick.
Dark General: Huh, that’s interesting. I actually wish Azure would play more.
Dark General: I would be remiss not to ask you about this, Synonym. But what does “Bytches” mean to you? We see that term used a lot now a days, but you’re one half of the original “Bytche” team up.
Missing Person: He’s got some legit real life stuff he’s taking care of, not related to what pulled him out of the Vampires game.
Dark General: Damn, I hope that works out for him. I always liked the guy.
Synonym: The Vampires game is probably one of my favourite games I’ve played in
Missing Person: He’s a great guy. His internet persona can be abrasive but he’s genuinely awesome. Plus the abrasiveness can be an awesome asset for a mafia player.
Synonym: The “bytches” started d1 when I was put into a lovers PM with Vynce
Synonym: And he named us bytches
Synonym: I was really excited because there was so much hype around Vynce and I was really looking to teaming up with him
Synonym: Bytches was also one of my favourite games because it was my first time in a lovers PM
Synonym: It really helps my game a hundredfold having someone else I can bounce my thoughts off.
Synonym: MP will be able to attest to this, when I’m playing solo I always bombard the GM with a bunch of thoughts, reads etc but naturally they can’t respond to them.
Missing Person: Yeah, you and Icege do this to me.
Missing Person: Also HAX.
Dark General: There’s another guy I wish played more, Icege. I like that guy too.
Dark General: So Synonym, what made you redirect Combo_Knights healing serum back to himself? That’s the standout play/moment from that monsters game. I don’t think thats a play many people would have either thought of or executed.
Missing Person: I was actually under the impression that CK hadnt turned so it wouldve killed him.
Synonym: After Forge was killed I think we worked out that Priest was trying to convert to mafia. I don’t remember exactly what led us to that action, I think Vynce and I might have worked out Mafia’s most likely target, and with him not in a lovers PM it was obvious he could be converted.
Synonym: We redirected the power back onto him twice IIRC, with the second time as a threat that he’d die to the bytch cage if he tried to cure any civilians.
Dark General: I actually drew that out of CK as Lucian. I called him on being the healer since he was acting disgruntled all game long.
Dark General: He made a statement about nobody believing him or something like that. That combined with me, and virtually everyone else, ganging up on him during the danganronpa game lead me to believe he was the rogue healer.
Dark General: He pretty much admitted as much, but also backed it up by saying killing civs he thought was roleless would dwindle who the monsters could actually target for biting.
Synonym: Ahh, I’m going back to the bytches PM to find my rationale.
Synonym: Okay, the suggestion actually came from Vynce.
Synonym: We were keeping CK alive to use his powers to ‘cure’ WAH to see if he was an original Vampire or if he had been telling the truth about being converted.
Synonym: Then, something happened that made me post this "The redirection target all comes down to what we’re expecting to redirect. If CK is the medic we’ll be redirecting the Cure but if he’s a Vampire we might also be redirecting their night actions. I think redirect everything back onto CK if we believe that losing him is an acceptable outcome."
Missing Person: Nice.
Dark General: Bytch tandem should be banned.
Synonym: Bytches was really a fun game with a great partner.
Missing Person: I’ll always remember the White Bytches avatar.
Dark General: I must admit, I loved that monsters game. Of course I got f*****, but that was an incredibly fun game. Probably one of the best games I’ve played.
Synonym: It did get twisted into something PW certainly didn’t expect which makes me happy.
Dark General: Missing Person, you’ve ran several highly enjoyable games. I want to know what makes you keep putting back on your GM hat? Is it to keep the community thriving? Or do you enjoy setting up and overseeing the sandboxes that us players play in?
Missing Person: It’s the creation aspect really. I started seeing some cool stuff happening in games and the thing that made me think I could add a new flavor to it was the Kenny role in South Park. I wanted to test that idea.
Missing Person: Another big one is the creative writing aspect. There’s something awesome about writing a story that’s always in flux due to the goings on in the thread.
Dark General: I certainly enjoy your writeups.
Missing Person: So I really enjoy that aspect of it. I really get a kick out of running stuff that people enjoy and get kicks out of.
Missing Person: The thing is, my writeups get nowhere without pure inspiration. I loved South Park so that was a natural place to start.
Dark General: That’s awesome. You’re really help us players out a lot and I want to give a heartfelt thank you for all you do for us. Seriously, I can’t thank all the GM’s enough.
Missing Person: Then having to come in and s
Do the FGC game was unexpected so I really just went in and had a ball with it. Those are some of my favorite writeups.
Synonym: Seconded. Managing a game, getting the write-ups out on time etc. is a big demand on your time.
Synonym: No bias, but I really liked writing up OZ’s death in the FGC game.
Dark General: "No bias"
Dark General: "I have a hard time getting a read on OZ"
Missing Person: Im just glad I can do it. It’s partly why I like having vacation time when I run one. I like to be in control at all times. Without you two on the FGC game I couldn’t have handled it all.
Synonym: “No Bias” "I wrote it"
Dark General: Synonym has pushed for OZ’s lynch in almost every game since Synonym was a GM in which OZ has drawn mafia
Missing Person: That writeup though was hilarious. Because people were still trying to play like OZ was civ and freaking out.
Dark General: Aw shucks MP. I had fun too. Actually more fun than I thought I’d have. Maybe it was just me but I felt a certain comraderie between us three since that time we had stepped up to co-gm.
Dark General: camaraderie*
Synonym: It was definitely an effective team.
Missing Person: Definitely. But now I have to take my blinders off to Syn because he was again off my radar in DBZ. But for a GM tandem? I’d definitely do that again.
Missing Person: That was such a well oiled machine by endgame.
Dark General: Was that your favorite game to GM, MP? Or was there another game that was your favorite?
Missing Person: For GM purposes, I really loved the South Park game. It was a lot of fun. For writeups I think I hit my stride in the FGC game and the EOW game. I still read the Vynce writeup in the EOW game and go, "Damn, that couldn’t be better."
Missing Person: But as for playing? My favorite game was Phoeniz Wright, no question.
Missing Person: That game was so hype at every point of it.
Dark General: I still havent’ read that game and I only hear good things about it.
Missing Person: And it kind of sealed my all star status when I got PW lynched in such an insane fashion.
Dark General: Alright, I want to transition into this last phase of questioning
Dark General: MP, you seem to be an infamous character. Whether it’s being the best Magneto player in a game without the magneto role, or getting yourself into a trappy situation. However despite that, you still got voted into the Game of Champions game. What do you think that says about you as a mafia player?
Dark General: And how did you feel about being choosen to be one of SRK’s reps in the game of champions game.
Missing Person: It was awesome really. I kind of felt bad seeing Fuzz get left out because we both wanted to rep so badly. But I mean, to just be a name deep into the hat was awesome enough. It does show that the effort you’ve made in these games hasn’t gone unnoticed and there is a reason why people both respect and fear your play.
Missing Person: I was definitely in agreement with Syn as the unanimous choice.
Missing Person: When there was only one slot I wasn’t even going to bother pursuing it because he’s earned it consistently
Synonym: I still think sending me was punishment.
Dark General: Howl more.
Synonym: vOv
Missing Person: That’ll teach you to be super amazing at mafia.
Dark General: Synonym, you seemed really humble that you got chosen as the runaway vote getter. What did you feel when you seen all the votes starting to pile up in your name?
Missing Person: Be super amazing again and we’ll send you to SomethingAwful to play with dils.
Dark General: LOL
Synonym: I felt that I probably should have looked at the previous games to understand just how big they were.
Synonym: I was really flattered that everyone was sending so many votes my way. I didn’t think I was the best choice for SRK. Like I’ve admitted, I know next to nothing about the FGC and I just felt like I was cheating a lot of the sRK vets out of a spot they deserved more.
Synonym: I also was really annoyed that I had to curbstomp Fuzz’s dreams of representing SRK when he practically organised our participation in the game.
Missing Person: But when you have the vets echoing everyone else’s sentiments, I don’t think you had to feel bad.
Synonym: Don’t get me wrong, it was a huge compliment but I just felt that I was getting sent as a good player, rather than a good representative.
Missing Person: I felt worse about edging Fuzz out though. I literally told him that later that maybe I should withdraw and let him have it.
Dark General: Synonym, you had something really poignant that stuck to me. During the Game of Champions game you said “I realized that I love SRK”. Can you explain to me what that comment really meant.
Synonym: It’s like I said earlier, I really like our community. We have a lot of all-star players, and yet we very rarely are faced with problems like the GoC was plagued with.
Dark General: What problems do you think were present in the Game of Champions?
Synonym: People were being hyper-aggressive, to the point of discrediting an entire players site based on their representatives actions.

There was not much town cohesion for the first few days. Everyone was so set in their way of doing things that any thoughts to the contrary were unacceptable.
Synonym: From around D3 or so it got better, I don’t know if that’s due to the people who were killed or because we all managed to finally gel but things settled down and we got a lot more work done than we had in the first two days.
Dark General: Even though you nailed mafia day 1. Which is a rare event on SRK.
Missing Person: Nailing mafia day 1 was a meta change easily. It was very fortunate that jcohen got it right on his opening investigation
Synonym: That was due solely to the Cop nailing a mafia N0. It certainly was a nice start to the game but it gave us nothing to go on the next few days.
Missing Person: But of course in that format, cop role claiming day 1 made sense when he could save the game from mislynching.
Synonym: People were refering to the mafias posts as “guildspew” because he intentionally tried to incriminate as many people as possible.
Synonym: *referring
Dark General: Which leads me to my next question, how big was the culture shock for the two of you?
Dark General: I know as someone not playing in the game but following the game, albeit loosely, it seemed like the atmosphere was very different. Whereas SRK games tend to be more serious, almost professional in some regards, the GoC game was more… Relaxed. The attitude and atmosphere looked more casual.
Missing Person: It was apparent, definitely. DarthPunk was a bigger Vynce for me than I’d ever encountered. I learned that I’m not even remotely close to the hyperposter everyone labels me as. Plus the aggression and the different tactics being used that I hadn’t seen before was insane.
Synonym: Yeah, I’m echoing MP here. The culture shock was very different. I’m glad to have played, and have gained a lot of valuable experience from doing so, but adjusting to the volume of posts nearly killed me.
Missing Person: The meta was entirely different with no night talking and no LGs. We still have some ways to go as players on SRK. I think we’re great at pushing inconsistencies and getting mafia, but we’re lagging on finding cleared civs outside of role claims and the UCs LG.
Synonym: I was grouchy for the first week or so of it because I was being forced to read thousands of posts when I wanted nothing more than to sleep.

Plus, the constant demands to contribute a lot were balanced out by people demanding that players stop posting fluff. There’s only so much you can beat a dead horse before there isn’t anything left to say so I was confused at how much content some players wanted.

To me it’s counter-productive demanding 100+ posts from each player every phase.
Synonym: It’s certainly nice to have data to go on, but when that data is exactly the same but spread across 100 posts instead of 10 it’s kind of annoying.
Missing Person: I also am of the opinion that a loy of what was called shitposting was merited.
Synonym: Plus, the volume of posts made it nearly impossible for me to re-read.
Missing Person: Granted there were exceptions
Synonym: Yeah, I disagree with a lot of the people who were labelled as bad contributers. I personally really like Phel’s posts but others hated them. Inversly, I was not a fan of DP’s style but to others it confirmed him 100%
Synonym: *Inversely
Dark General: So what were the biggest things that stuck out to each of you?
Dark General: As far as what you seen in the game that you want SRK to implement? Or that you think we as players can learn from.
Synonym: I definitely like the push to be more assertive. I tend to just do my own thing in the thread until I figure out someone I want to push. I need to start actively driving conversations more.

I’d like to implement a few things that I picked up in that game. Some things I’ll keep as a secret but others like CFD’s are an interesting change to the SRK meta.
Dark General: What is a CFD?
Synonym: Plus, I’m blatently stealing Moocher’s .gifs.
Synonym: CFD stands for Chinese Fire Drill. It’s basically a radical changing of the bandwagons at EOD, and can be used to completely upset a carefully built mafia bandwagon.
Dark General: I did read about that in one of the days I actually followed. I thought it was a really intriguing concept.
Dark General: A very interesting way to smoke out mafia who try to build lynches. However, the style might be limited in games where you can’t change your lynch vote once it’s sent in.
Synonym: Yeah, and it demands a large percent of the players be present for the EOD.

It’s still something that might be useful on SRK.
Dark General: Absolutely, what about you MP?
Missing Person: I like and don’t like no night phase talking. I’ve actually argued this contention in the spectator chat.
Missing Person: They assert that it makes mafia have to doublespeak too long while trying to strategize
Missing Person: And my assertion is that the better mafia players are the ones who can doublespeak 24/7.
Missing Person: So players like me and Syn who do that well would absolutely rape a game with no night talking. It’d be easy mode for us.
Dark General: It’s certainly an interesting concept.
Dark General: But the no night talking, the one time we ran it recently, only really allowed people to post around the forums during night phases.
Missing Person: One thing that did strike me is requiring each player to post at least once per phase.
Dark General: For people who narc profiles.
Dark General: I’d absolutely love something that supported more posting.
Missing Person: We currently have no voting as a capital offense. That’s fine but I think we could curb a lot of inactivity more by requiring every player to post once per day. You get the inactives out easier.
Synonym: Yeah, I dislike wallflowers, but I like that our community is open to anyone who wants to play.
Missing Person: Say The Youknowwho signs up. Instead of waiting for him to no vote twice you just DQ him for never posting.
Synonym: I also liked the post/vote count technology they have going on, but I understand the extreme unliklihood of us ever getting something similar.
Missing Person: And say a format makes you PM your votes? Well a wallflower can’t scrape by by just voting and never posting. They’d still get a DQ
Missing Person: I’ve talked to PW about making similar when I saw it. I don’t know if he’s actively working on it or not. If I knew how to program I’d do it. It’d make the GM job easier.
Dark General: Were there any plays and players that left a big impression on you? Did any of them remind you of anyone out of our current playerbase?
Missing Person: Dwetzel reminded me of The Chief in trying to drive the conversation and making good behind the scenes reads. DarthPunk was highly abrasive. I will shock people by saying he was really enjoyable to play against and tested my mettle.
Missing Person: I’d play a game with him again.
Missing Person: dils on the other hand, fuck that bitch ass mark.
Missing Person: #mprealtalk2014
Synonym: I guess JCohen RC’ing D1 with a scum peak was a good play. Not something I’d ever consider but it was effective.

Other than that, I’d say Moocher played a pretty strong (potential) scum game. That reveal hasn’t happened yet.

Players that remind me of other players?

Nick reminded me of some of our players who swear by post analyses and voting trends.

Rhanndom reminded me of OZ, in the sense that he turned up and started posting suspicions that were counter to stuff that had already been revealed in the thread.
Missing Person: God I forgot about Rhanddom. He was such a blip on the radar.
Missing Person: Mattchew actually reminded me of 3SL as well, come to think about it in the way he smokescreened for the medic.
Dark General: Synonym, you came under fire during day 1. Outside of cop claim to nail a mafia on day 1, it’s possible that you may have gotten lynched. That is, if MP wasn’t there to back you up. We’re pretty luck that we got 2 reps in the game.
Dark General: Without MP there to bounce ideas off of, since it seemed like you two used each others votes to get traction on targets and sort things out, how well do you think you would have done, Syn?
Synonym: Honestly? Not very well. It was a boon having an anchor I knew and then trusted in the first few days otherwise I would have lost interest in the game.
Dark General: And MP, how much was your usual playstyle effected by working with Syn during the GOC
Synonym: Coming off a 12 hour shift the last thing I wanted was to read and be falesly accused based on no evidence. I’m still annoyed at the traction DP got against me with no evidence.
Synonym: So, to have MP be able to take some of the heat off me was a very nice reprieve.
Synonym: I’m not sure who else would have done that in the same position. Probably Fuzz.
Dark General: It was able to cement both your statuses as Civ since day 1.
Missing Person: It was definitely a bonding experience. We both had to have each other’s back to stay alive to read. We both generated heat for hard claiming each other.
Missing Person: Besides everyone knows I always draw heat over other people anyway. I’m used to it and play better that way. So taking that off of Syn was a good way for us to both be in pur comfort zones.
Dark General: Down to the last 3 questions.
Dark General: I believe SRK was the site with the least games played out of all the sites that got invited. Synonym, I think you were the player with the least game experience. Which probably lead to them trying to oust you so fast since they thought you were an inexperienced player in their eyes.
Dark General: How well do you think you two represented SRK?
Synonym: I’m pleased with our overall performance. I think we made a decent impression on the other players, although I’m not sure how many of them would cope with our style of gameplay.

I definitely was on edge when it felt like I was getting wagoned as an easy target. Yet, I miraculously still maintain my record of never being mislynched.
Missing Person: I think we did well. We could’ve done better, but SRK Mafia is still in its infancy and our flavor is far different than anything else. So we may not have done the absolute best compared to like 2+2 but we definitely styled out.
Dark General: So you don’t think you played the A+ game, but you definitely brought the SRK mafia flavor to the GoC’s. Do you two think it was effective?
Missing Person: I think the key is we each learned stuff in this game from the other sites that we can plug in at SRK to push forward the development of our players.
Missing Person: I think it was partially effective. I mean a lot of the stuff I’d do on SRK that’d get people to listen to me didn’t work for a while. After a while, it did to some extent. People weren’t considering dils until I called him out.
Synonym: I think our flavour definitely helped to mellow out the thread in our last few days. There was a lot more fun banter during those days.

I’m not sure there were any stellar plays this game, so I’m having a hard time quantifying whether I did anything of note, other than kite two or three lynch wagons.
Missing Person: I think you baited out some mafia onto your wagon thoguh, so even that mistake turned out well.
Synonym: Well, I’d like to claim partial credit for YG’s lynch. I was on Eden’s case pretty early.
Dark General: I can’t wait to see what you two bring to the table for ForgeDiggers Shards of Alara game.
Synonym: I’m bringing my desire to not have to read 9000 posts.
Missing Person: I’ve already got some stuff I’ve seen done and referenced in this game that I’ve already chosen to impliment. Call this MP 3.1beta
Dark General: MP, still carrying on SWBetas lineage.
Missing Person: Someone’s gotta do it. I still await that warrior’s return.
Missing Person: I don’t care what that nigga says. You don’t simply quit mafia.
Dark General: So. This is something I’ve been thinking about for a while. How much does your occupation influences your style of play? There’s skills that you employ on the job that seem to transition into your playstyle. It’s my theory that everyone has that piece of occupational flavor that’s present in how they approach the game.
Dark General: Whether it’s how you deal with people, deal with situations or even personalities that you’re accustomed to cutting through.
Missing Person: Absolutely zilch. It’s hard to take much analysis from teaching kids English. However I had one bitch admin that I had to fight with last year that does kind of reflect how I push people in game.
Missing Person: And when I get her response, which was unbridled anger, I know I’ve hit paydirt.
Missing Person: It was what kept DarthPunk and dils in my radar for so long this game.
Missing Person: Because I rarely see anyone go from zero to angry and be in the right.
Missing Person: Usually that happens when you strike a nerve because they’ve not only been caught, but they can’t battle back.
Synonym: Mine factors in quite a lot. I like to base a lot of my reads on facts, evidence in the thread and then follow their logical progression to the source.

I definitely don’t always bring my best bedside manner into these games, but I try to be understanding. It’s just so hard to bring some empathy but not all of it to the game, so I usually try to check all of it at the door.

I also have a few statistical and research techniques I’ve been dying to try out but haven’t due to time constraints.
Synonym: It also factors in that I’m usually pretty tired playing these games so don’t like having to dedicate vast amounts of time to playing catch-up. I prefer to spent the majority of my time making reads or posting in the thread.
Synonym: Unfortunately, I’m going to need to leave in a few minutes so I’ve got time for maybe one ore question
Dark General: perfect
Dark General: I’m down
Dark General: to
Dark General: my
Dark General: life
Dark General: question
Dark General: the best question
Missing Person: Is my body ready?
Dark General: I hope it is
Synonym: "Would you Lynch Fuzz Day 1"
Missing Person: I have. It was exhilarating and dirty and exhilirating.
Dark General: Aliens come down to outer space with a plan to take over planet earth. By some twisted twist of fate they stumbled across one of SRK’s mafia games and become intrigued by our communities tactical, strategical and quirky nature. To decide the fate of the earth, you two are deemed captains of Earths mighty mafia brigade heros. You have to beat the aliens in a best of 3 mafia set using teams comprised of SRK’s mafia community.

Missing Person, you’re the captain of game 1.
Synonym, you’re the captain of game 2.
Both of you are co-captains for game 3.

In the game you’re a solo captain you’re forced to be mafia. You have to choose 5 other SRKers to be mafia with you.

In the game you’re co-captains you guys play as civ. You two have to come up with a list of 9 other SRKers to play as civ with yall.

You might be asking “How the hell will this work, it’ll be obvious to tell who Is and isn’t an alien”. Luckily for you two, we’re using alien technology that will make this all work. Don’t question extraterrestrial technology that your human brain can’t possibly hope to fathom.

Who do you pick for your respective game and why?
Dark General: from outer space
Synonym: My team for game two:
-Pietastic
-Saitsu
-Augustus
-DarkGeneral
-Vynce/Missing Person or kaz/Pimp Willy

My rationale is as follows:

Pietastic: Pie is an all-round solid player. He’s very smart, capable on offence and defence and is very good at exploiting technology.

Saitsu: Saitsu sells himself short but he is one player that genuinely terrifies me. He’s remarkably good at reading me, especially in the absence of others seeing what he’s seeing. He also doesn’t seem to buckle under pressure and does very well when people are pushing him.

Augustus: Augustus is someone that I want so that the other team doesn’t have him. His reads are good, but it’s his aggression that I would most like on a mafia team. Someone with a tenacity to push civilian lynches with little remorse and capable of skating away from the backlash.

DarkGeneral: Excellent at both interviews and tactics. DG plays a superb tactical game and needs to stop selling himself short.

The last slot is contested. If the game is in space against aliens who have no knowledge of SRK then I want kaz or Pimp Willy. These guys round out a solid team with experience and cunning that I am hard pressed to match.

If the aliens do have knowledge of players then I want either MP or Vynce. Both are able to play a superb scum game, and have excellent poker faces.

My civ team would probably be:

-RadicalFuzz
-Vynce
-Bious
-DukeC
-AlphaCommando
-Missing Person
-Pietastic
-DarkGeneral
-Pimp Willy

The first criteria for making my civ team was that I wanted people I feel could work well together, be active, and not be at each others throats.

Now, to the choices.

-Fuzz is seriously one of the most solid choices for a civilian team I can think of. He’s genuine in his interactions, hard working, smart, and likes to win. He’s also very much a capable team player. Plus, by putting him on my civilian team it means he can’t be mafia :stuck_out_tongue:
-Vynce makes the draft because when we teamed up as the bytches we were able to wreak havoc on those who stood against us. Alien scum stand no chance.
-Bious is a solid choice for me, although I can see others disagreeing with it. He’s got good reads, but just oozes confidence. Definitely the person I’d be most worried about ruining my teams cohesion but I think with the right motivation he’d make an excellent comrade.
-Duke makes the list as a rather unexpected, at least on the surface, addition. I really, really liked how he stood up against me in the DBZ game (even if I did exploit it a lot). I also liked the dedication to the team effort he showed, as well as a willingness to work hard. He is definitely someone I can see maintaining my teams cohesion.
-AlphaCommando: Alpha is a great civilian… when he isn’t busy messing around. As long as he can get his head in the game he’d be a fantastic civilian asset. Plus, we’ll know if he’s a traitor or not if he gets lynched D2.
-Missing Person. As the GoC has shown, MP is very capable of both offence and defence. His style can appear incriminating at times, but from now on I’ll always be happy to have him in my corner. He’s also got a tenacity that I want for my civilian team.
-Piestastic: Pie makes my civ dream team because I can’t imagine playing a civ game without him. He’s always someone I can count on to bounce ideas off, as well as to call people on anything sketchy.
-DarkGeneral: Also makes my civilian team, because when I’m not actively trying to deceive him we both gel very well. He is also a great team player, and would work seamlessly in my line-up.
-Pimp Willy: Pimp was someone I debated adding to my list. I ended up deciding that the pros his presence brings outway the cons. He’s a shrewd player, and someone that I trust to make bold civilian plays.

Thanks for the great interview DG. Well done, I can’t wait to see it.
Synonym: Good night, and I’ll chat to you guys later.
Dark General: Alright. Goodnight birthday boy.
Missing Person: Synonym easily. He does so well in that situation. Azure because we have a mind meld in a scenario of deception. HAX because he survives so well. The Chief because even when he draws heat it takes him a while to die and it distracts people from other reads. Oerba because he is the absolute best wallflower in the game.
Missing Person: HAX & Augustus for sure as civs. I still attest that they have the best reads in the game today. Alpha because when he’s on, he can rip the game apart very quickly. SAD because he has been so clutch. SoVi3t because he also has clutch players in him. Azure and PW because they have both been known to look for ways to break games. NoodleHead because he has a very analytical way to break down the game that most players don’t bring to the table, and thus can bring in all aspects of reading to the game.
DarkGeneral: Excellent, this concludes our massive interview.
Missing Person: If I couldn’t pick Syn I’d choose OZ because he proved his clutch ability in the FGC game.
Missing Person: Awesome
Missing Person: Thanks for the interview

Thanks for the great interview DG. Well done, I can’t wait to see it.

Holy shit. All this time I thought SRK had a character limit. Goddamn!

Best interview yet. Lots of Vynce B).

DarkGeneral will be removed from the game and will be replaced by Manx.

I want to stress that he did nothing wrong, it was a mistake on our parts entirely, and thus he will not be banned or face any punishment whatsoever.

The game will begin tomorrow at 9 AM. PMs will go out to the correct players later tonight. Day 1 will end on Wednesday at 9 PM. All times are in Central Standard.

never drinking again. I feel so sick right now. :sad:

My stomach is like an active volcano right now.

Anyway I hope everyone had a good time with their family. Now let the games begin!

Not drinking until next weekend you mean B)

DarkGeneral really worked hard on that interview so give him some love.

Good job on the interview, DarkGeneral. It was a great read.

Damn you are an enabler… of a player who helped you win in a landslide.

Clear favoritism. He can’t just quit and help you win, at being a good GM-I guess, this time!

At least make him, his favorite, an Alternate!

You do need those cuz some people are just, anger inducing with their non play, or just nothing sounding similar-we have a funnier example, being those “Antonios”

“We don’t know since he didn’t show up”

lol hecatom scared of him being banderes or some rico suave dude? Threatening his latin guy status, only he can play, nobody else! Seat’s taken!

I didn’t read cuz that’s how to win/respect in these games now, don’t give a shit, so Bious said no but is on the list. is he an Alternate?

Beat me by at least 5 page downs

i don’t know what that is in phone scroll math. Nor do I care. :cool:

Sorry, HAX. The roles are already about to go out.

Bious said he changed his mind if you read a little later in the thread.

Manx being a silent alternate or something. But no official list, no worries, it should work out

Was thinking about alternates, not being in the game as a player or one. But you know I always want my consideration, like “read DG’s interview” apparently nobody did on the 1st one :sad:

You better play well and good this time Manx :nono:

No room for just 1, correct play :tup: , you gotta do both to makeup for it. :tdown: