SRK Mafia XI: Vampires Vs Werewolves - Game Over: Town Wins!

I was thinking that we’re bound to find at least up to three or two Mafia among The Co-Jones/MP votes. Possibly three or four including that No Lynch group. It seems like the safest route to hide inside large groups like that rather than going off and voting alone so you can draw attention to yourself. That’s exactly what Soviet did so it was probably easier for Van Helsing to scope him out.

Taking into consideration what I assume would be Soviet’s style of play, that list of suspects he gave are probably just random names. So Vynce, Missing Person, and orochizoolander join Azure and Bious in the group of people who likely aren’t vampires. And I take back what I said earlier about Aidebit not being cleared of being a vampire. He likely isn’t one as well.

And there is no way they used Sacrifice this early in the game, lol. There are zero benefits using it now and I don’t think a collective of anyone here would be that dumb. Van Helsing is just a boss~

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lol You should also read the Phoenix Wright game Kaz/Crotch chapter. People can only take so much analysis before they just say stop it and move on. I’ve already been told twice to stop posting my theories, but that doesn’t mean I won’t pursue them. Me? Coy? Not likely.

Do you care to expound on that thought homie?

That is what I said.

Vynce is not Drac.

But he could still be the other Initiate, and guiding their faction, with the actually role-ed Drac deferring to him.

How could Vynce have sacrificed soviet if he was in Jail ( aka: the target may not use any special abilities )?

My point is not that complex.

Read it again.

Ok, after this I’m going to let the site catch up and try to answer everything at once

Listen, I’ve explained this MORE than once, so please if you don’t believe me check the role again, ask PW, do whatever you have to do to wrap your head around this shit.
The coroner’s report will come up the same REGARDLESS of who kill Soviet. There are only TWO options, and BOTH of the options will yield a “killed by human” report.

On another note, why do you keep trying to push me away from this?

@PW, just for clarification’s sake…if Dracula were to sacrifice a vampire and choose for him to die at the hands of Van Helsing, would the coroner be able to distinguish this from a legitimate VH kill?

And by saying Vynce is not Drac, I do mean strictly in the sense of the hypothetical sacrifice being true.

By the way you never answered for this statement @Azure

Okay, I understand you now.

So, combining the lists of CJ & MP we get:

Spoiler

AlphaCommando
Azure
DarkGeneral
ForgeDigger
GodotsRevenge
Hecatom
Pietastic
RadicalFuzz
The Chief
Saitsu
Sumazndude
Synonym

Just as important, everyone who did not vote for those two:

Spoiler

Bious
WAH
Icege
3SL
OZ
MP
CK
90s
Augustus
Aidebit
Vynce
Soviet (voted for Vynce)
BD
highlulu

Soviet didn’t vote with any big groups, which leads me to believe that at least one Vampire is in one of those groups, the first spoiler. Depending on how much influence Soviet had with the other Vampires, they could be in the same group. The game I played where we were both Mafia 5/7 of us ended up voting for the same player on Day 1. He might’ve done that again this time. That would be in line with some of my suspects, and at the same time the Werewolves were certain to have at least one person voting for Co-Jones or MP to blend in. Interestingly enough, you’re correct about SoVi3t tending to give out random names for suspect lists when he’s Mafia. If I recall the Marvel game correctly, he openly trusted one Mafia and doubted two others out of a seven man Mafia. If I had to guess, I’d say he acknowledged only one other Vampire during his time alive, and ignored the other one as much as possible.

@Vynce @AlphaCommando @Combo_Knight
From a scale of 1 to 6 how certain are you that I’m civilian, with 1 being willing to bet your life that I’m not and 6 being willing to bet your life that I am? I have a plan but it won’t work without a significant degree of trust.

How was killing TCJ falling into a Mafia trap to kill the Detective?

You’re not merely connecting dots with statements like that.

You’re making fakecdots, and connecting them to real ones.

*fake dots

Conversely, sacrifice will always be hypothetical. If it was obvious it would be stupid.

I mean when would sacrifice be obviously used and purposely setup to where civs have no question that it was used?

Theyre banking on our laziness. The TCJ lynch shows proves that the majority of us prefer the easy answer. Ignoring the possibility of a sacrifice is not smart play. Period.

Because no one would be stupid enough to sac Soviet as a Vampire on Night 1. The only advantage it would give is clearing people who suspected him of being Mafia as Vampires, and that is too big of a risk to take.

Why am I pushing you from this? Because you sound like you want Helsing to come out and say it was him who murked Soviet.

@Azure, how committed would you be on a 3rdStrikeLove lynch right now?

Personally speaking, the possibility of the Sacrifice isn’t in question, the feasibility is. There were (IMO) strictly better options than sacrificing as strong a player as Soviet on Night 1. So while I acknowledge the possibility, I don’t think it’s a smart play from any practical angle.

You know something? You never duped me in UMVC3. And I trusted you in Phoenix. I shouldn’t now. But I don’t get a bad vibe from you just yet, …. not withstanding. I’ll give you a 2.5. Just over neutral.

I think it’s quite clear. The coroner would see it as a Van Helsing kill. Isn’t that the point of choosing how it looks like he died?

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*fake dots

Out of 10?