DeS and DaS are the two best RPGs of this generation.
Followed by STALKER (if you wanna call it a full blown RPG).
They are not RPGs.
And you are right.
This is a Zen level of fuck-up-edness.
Cursing is my religion. And Jesus fucking Christ, religion has continuity issues.
Also: I am floating, with my eyes closed, with no sails. I am soaking, I am weathered, by the winter of mixed drinks.
What am I right about, exactly?
What dictates an RPG if not a lengthy, story driven adventure with deep character progression, and tons of items? Seems like an RPG to me.
They are action games, primarily, with a heavy dose of RPG elements.
They are Action RPGs, or, ARPGs.
And you are right by proxy because there hasn’t been a truly epic console RPG since Persona 4 and Dragon Quest 8 i.e. since before this gen.
Cursing is my religion. And Jesus fucking Christ, religion has continuity issues.
Also: I am floating, with my eyes closed, with no sails. I am soaking, I am weathered, by the winter of mixed drinks.
What are DeS and DaS?
Shit I should’ve bookmarked that did not read gif with flynt flossy when I had the chance.
Never gonna find it trudging aimlessly in GD’s threads.
Eh, yeah, you’re right.
I saw that Dragon Quest X is going to be an MMO or something dumb.
Lost Odyssey is pretty rad though if you haven’t played it. I never finished it, so I can’t say how good it was overall, but I thought what I had played was great.
Demon’s Souls, and Dark Souls.
Action RPGs. 
Demons’ Souls & Dark Souls, respectively.
Cursing is my religion. And Jesus fucking Christ, religion has continuity issues.
Also: I am floating, with my eyes closed, with no sails. I am soaking, I am weathered, by the winter of mixed drinks.
oh hi mark!
I’m guessing you would file the likes of Xenoblade into ARPG?
Xenoblade I’d file under pretentious, overwrought, overhyped bad RPG with a shitty three person party setup, and horrible semi-A.I.
It still is an RPG - even if it REALLY wants to play itself [badly].
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Also: I am floating, with my eyes closed, with no sails. I am soaking, I am weathered, by the winter of mixed drinks.
What would you consider it? Ive been playing Xenoblade Chronicles and I consider it an action rpg. I consider Demon’s Souls and Dark Souls action rpgs.
I still consider it an RPG.
You still issue commands to your party, and - most importantly - there are still action “turns” in battle.
It is also shitty, imo.
Cursing is my religion. And Jesus fucking Christ, religion has continuity issues.
Also: I am floating, with my eyes closed, with no sails. I am soaking, I am weathered, by the winter of mixed drinks.
I recently purchased Arcanum and Planscape.
Planescape is so awesome, oh my God. The writing is incredible.
I’ll agree to disagree about the subjectiveness of Xenoblade (I’d say it’s the best thing we’ve seen since DQ8 myself, doing my second playthrough now), but the AI? Aside from Melia’s AI not being utilized correctly (I just piloted her anyway), how exactly was the AI shitty? Seemed like one of the smarter AIs I’ve come across in games where you have to rely on it. Admittedly, a shudder Gambit system like FF12 would have made it a bit more obvious on how to manipulate the AI to your whims (as opposed to the vague realization that setting your more requested abilities closer to center does the trick, Melia excepted).
I’ll always maintain that Xenoblade is FF12 without the suck.
You’re welcome.
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oh! Hi, SRK!
Barring the story aspect (of which Xenoblade barely edges the win), you have just described every Tales and Star Ocean game, as well.
Cursing is my religion. And Jesus fucking Christ, religion has continuity issues.
Also: I am floating, with my eyes closed, with no sails. I am soaking, I am weathered, by the winter of mixed drinks.
I’m not talking to those people.