She did mention that, enormous as I was, her son was even bigger.
At least we have a Microcenter.
Oops, nope, that’s in Kansas.
(Well shit. I don’t understand why there’s yet another new lounge since the “post limit” seems to extended considerably in my earlier absence, but I won’t harp on that. That said, all this Final Fantasy talk and the thread being four pages means you guys are going to get fucked up…unless something works.)
SO YOU THINK YOU CAN QUOTE: SPOILER EDITION
I suppose I might as well start with the reply I was going to direct at Missing Person before I saw the other thread was closed.
First, I’ll replicate the list you had prepared:
“1) I smell cinnamon rolls!
2) I like Mass better in Latin. It’s nicer when you don’t know what they’re saying.
3) You owe me a Sausage McMuffin!
4) You are a good person, and people say nice things about you.
5) The rug, it really tied the room together.
6) His name is Robert Paulsen.
7) Bark twice if you’re in Milwaukee.
8) Don’t throw me down, Clark!
9) Wookie sounds
10) Strawberry’s not here.
11) I was just testing you, it’s 9. And that’s a magic number.”
Then, I shall inform you that you probably don’t want to ever say number 4 to her. Considering how obtuse she seems to be, you don’t want to put any potentially hubris-boosting ideas into her head. Also, as much as you’re messing with her, you should probably avoid things that outright lies.
Next, since you said “Contributions to my list are welcome”, I have three suggestions that instantly come to mind:
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“I’ll be back.” - Generic enough to work in just about any context without it being too obvious. Allows you to sneak away and never come back.
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“Get away from her, you bitch!” - Also allows you to sneak away by providing a distraction.
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“It’s like everything went into Maximum Overdrive!” - Just because I doubt that Stephen King is that popular in Korea.
Finally, let’s see if everything else fits into spoilers. Experiment time!
People Liking Final Fantasy XII
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Hmmm…I quite surprised to see (more) people say they liked FFXII. Even more surprised to see someone say they thought it was perfect sans for Penelo, who indeed was kinda just there.
Usually whenever someone mentions that game, they talk about how tedious & unrewarding gambits are and how they make it feel like the game is “playing with itself”, how the story kinda falls apart, how areas are too open at times, and/or how stupid the visual design of the characters are. While I can certainly agree with that last one (at least in the case of Vaan and Ashe; seriously, why the fuck would anyone, much less a princess, wear that?), everything else I have a more fixed feeling on. Admittedly, when last I left off as with most of the RPGs I’ve played, I was only in the middle of the story before I abruptly stopped, so it probably has yet to really implode from what I’ve heard.
As for International Versions, don’t hold your breath. We didn’t get the one for FFX (or Kingdom Hearts series’ Final Mixes)either. I don’t even understand why they’re even called “International Version” when they seem to be anything but. Then again, it’s not like I’ve done research into this, so for all I know, everyone but the U.S. gets them, though that seems like it would even dumber.[/details]
Final Fantasy Ban
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I kinda agree with this. Then again, that’s mostly because it’s pointless to talk about when we all know FFVI and FFT were the best.
That and as this post will show once again, I can go on quite a while about most of the franchise, at least its older parts before everything to started to get direct sequels and spin-offs. You guys hardly need to give me a reason to talk more.[/details]
Pertho and his views Summons in Final Fantasy
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I concur that Knights of the Round was ridiculous and probably the only real instance where a Summon is like a “Press to Win” button when it comes to damage; the only exception might FFX’s optional summons, and even then those didn’t destroy everything. And, yeah, even then, like all Final Fantasy, FFVII definitely had other broken stuff to abuse.
That said, I think you’re underselling Summons a bit. In FFVIII, I vaguely recall at least Doomtrain and Cereberus being semi-useful–maybe Jumbo Cactuar too–and Summons were at least better than using your magic due to how the junction system worked. If you were using non-summon magic in VIII, then you were doing it wrong.
Similarly, FFT’s Summons weren’t nearly as horrendous as you’re making them seem. They may have perhaps been redundant barring Titan, Leviathan, Bahamut and Golem, but Golem along pretty much means you can literally solo the game with a single Summoner; just don’t have good Zodiac compatibility with Altima or else you get fucked over in the very final battle as I learned the hard way…
It’s just that magic in general kinda sucked in FFT–Black Magic is way worse than Summon Magic–as it was given the physical attacks were capable of, as exampled by Monks with Two Swords or Orlandu being able to murder pretty much anything just by sneezing in its general direction.
Additionally, Rabbit wasn’t saying that Summons should be “broken” or even that “important”, just usable, which seems like it should be easy to agree with given it was implied in the game for a reason. Why have useless shit there just so completionists are happy?
In FFX, Aeons/Summons were decently powerful if you didn’t want to grind/game the openness of the Sphere Grid, especially the more non-optional ones like Anima, Magus Sisters and Yojimbo (especially if you pay him enough). That said, if you do happen to do that, then stuff like Quick Hit becomes broken from what I’ve seen. I think it’s even more skewed in the International Version, though I vaguely remember that Aeons are still useful in some instances there when it comes to the optional Dark Aeon stuff just because Aeons tend to block Instant Death and such.
As for FFXII, Espers/Summons rather…suck there, though that’s largely due to not being able to control them in the standard version. They go off programmed gambits that you can’t change and that generally ask for weird requirements like following below a certain health threshold or being inflicted with a negative status before the summon can use its more powerful stuff. This is on top of being expensive. As such, it’s apparently a lot easier to use Mist Quickenings that kill the hell out of everything, though I admittedly don’t understand how those work still, or just abuse Bubble, Reverse, Decoy and/or Stopped statuses to tank the hell out of everything; either of those or abusing the absurdly powerful Nihapalaoa (?) works since that allows you to reverse item effects as long as you’re wearing it.
The International FFXII is a lot better about that, IIRC at least allowing for Espers to be regularly controlled and making it so that Mist Quickenings supposedly no longer did absurd amounts of instant-boss-killing damage.[/especially useless information][/details]
Cyntalan Trolling
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How the hell do you like what’s essentially, in theory, “Drownball”? Seriously, why the hell is there at least no acknowledgement that everyone in Spira can apparently breath underwater? Even if it’s obviously shown, it just seems…odd, especially since it only really ever comes up in a mostly optional aspect of the game, a couple of boss fights aside.
Being less nitpicking about it, what exactly was “fun” about that you thought would work better with tweaking?[/details]
Negaduck responds to old thread
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Ah, okay. I figured it wasn’t all marker, but I suck at drawing and art in general, so I couldn’t be sure.[/details]
The Spirits Within
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Yeah, The Spirits Within was a decent enough film. It was indeed kinda bland at parts, I still don’t like the ending and I still think it was squandered at least a bit of its potential. However, it’s definitely watchable and not the horrible travesty that people seem to think it is pretty much only because it had the misfortune to have “Final Fantasy” tacked onto the front when it has absolutely nothing in common with any of them outside of a few shout-outs.[/details]
P.S. I still haven’t played FFXIII and I really ever intend to.
149k, for 3 bucks I guess it’s worth it.
That would be flattering but that’s too incest for me.
Yea tactics is the best…Damned did they ever figure out a way to incorporate multiplayer on that site btw?? Niggas not ready for my Blade Grasping Geomancing Calculator son
ah yes… another “copy” character… I forgot about that guy. He showed up on Young Justice a few episodes ago, actually. Time for a bit of quick internet research on that one… *ah, he is apparently written to have a limit in how long he retains the powers/energy.
The Prototype main characters are similar, though the only things in the world they absorb/consume are humans, super-soldiers and various mutated creatures that resulted from the virus. Absorbing always gave them the memories and knowledge from that victim, so in the first game, that concept explains how “Mercer” quickly learns how to perfectly operate the various military vehicles that can be hijacked, and how he finds out all kinds of things. heh, I love it… a “Prototype” movie would’ve been awesome, but I like video games much more than movies anyway. One downside to their “consume” process is that anything above a normal human typically has to be beaten up and close to death before Mercer or Heller can absorb them…naturally that could present a problem against the major super hero characters like most people in the Justice League.
(Ugh. I am so bad at starting to study. Why…)
Hunh. The spoiler thing worked. I’m kinda surprised…
They’re still working on “Tethical”, but I literally have never read more than one post in that sub-forum and I have similarly never talked to any of the people working on it.
I suppose that I’ll check tomorrow since you’re asking and I have been kinda curious, but I really don’t know anything about it.
You claim I’m trolling by saying Blitzball was a neat idea in theory, but then go about saying that magic, BLACK MAGIC even, was useless in FFT in the face of Monks? wtf you playin’ at.
Can’t recall just how many times I’ve heard people say the physical classes in that game outshine the magical ones… it’s so laughably backwards its not even funny. Hell, aside from the likes of Mustadio, Orlandu, and Meliadoul, there were no better classes than the magic family, Chemists probably being #1 (fucking GUNS), followed by Calculators then Wizards. Monks MIGHT be the best physical class, but that’s not saying very much at all.
ggs Knicks, Stoudemire is still a sour ass nigga tho’.
To hell with BF3. Uninstalling forever.
It made no sense how Tidus was knocked unconscious and managed to not drown, even though we was underwater the whole time.
black magic is decent early on…but after that? Yea…its pretty useless. The only Mage worth anything in later levels is a time mage. Also blade grasp makes all broken physical classes(Swordskill, holy sword etc) pretty much useless. Samurais are better than monks simply for draw out abilities
Its good to learn all the mage spells so when you have a calc you can rape but…the main thing that hurts blk mages is their ridiculous cast times for the more powerful spells. Even with the half cast time equipped some shit still is atleast 9+ turns.
Who cares about Meg Ryan. Bahamut and Auron is what mattered. And underage Rikku for you pedos. White/Asian/Al Bhed girl stirred the loins back when I was a young pup.
Except that Samurais have shitty MA, which is where the draw out ability pulls from. Wizard with Draw Out was far superior. Secondly, if you’re running a Wizard without Draw Out or Math Skill, you’re doing something wrong.
my geomancer with math skill will stab your wizard in the face!
(He can breath underwater Cryoh. They just never bother to explicitly acknowledge that he–and apparently everyone in Spira-- can.)
Oh gods, you’re making me talk about FFT now? I need to go do things, but now I have an excuse to rant at someone…
“Trolling” was used jokingly, though I was serious about Monks, but, hey, if you want to get all “Serious Business” about this, then let’s.
Math Skill is the exception to the Faith magic-rule, though it’s a pretty powerful fucking exception. You can’t even really claim that, though, since Calculators as a class sucks and it’s utterly dependent on other classes to fuel its parameters. Other than that, faith-based magic tends to generally only have two or three spells that are really useful, if that, among the other classes. The ones that stand out are Life Drain and Paralyze for Yin-Yang Magic, Golem for Summoners, Haste and Demi for Time Mage, Raises for White Magic and…nothing much for Black Magic.
Black Magic’s problem is that, outside of shitty Poison status, the only useful thing it could do besides (usually impressive, unreliable, evadable) damage was potentially Frog people. So Fire 1-4, Ice 1-4, Bolt 1-4, Flare AND Death are basically the same fucking spell in vanilla, except that Death is rather unreliable; it’s almost entirely useless unless you want to screw with the AI and target yourself with a Death spell that won’t go off before you next turn so that they don’t target you, but that’s pretty much only useful for Wizard (S)SCCs.
Please tell me what exactly is good about Black Magic, especially independent of Math Skill; even then, White Magic’s Holy was more abusive. “Useless” was hyperbolic, but it’s definitely one of the worst skill sets in vanilla, especially since unlike the magic that can get around Innocent (Draw Out, Geomancy), it can’t even get around M-EV in most cases; this is why it fails in the face of Summon Magic, Math Skill and the above ones as well.
As for your other claims that magic was good in the face of physical attacks, you’re counting Chemist as magical? Because…? The fact that they lead into the magical classes themselves doesn’t really mean much when completely ignore Faith, which is why Chemist pretty much obviates everything White Magic can do except Raise people at 100%…in a game where’s it’s extremely easy to OHKO people with physical builds from generics.
(Similarly, spell guns don’t make Chemist magical and the two magical specials, Rafa & Malak, are the most unreliable and generally useless in the game, Rafa’s use in Deep Dungeon aside; Beowulf is basically a physical-magical hybrid, if only because he needs a sword to do anything.)
Why exactly do you seem to think Monks are bad when even with just Punch Art they can literally do anything? I’m genuinely curious now because as “backward” as you seem to think my claims are, your opinion is literally the exact opposite of something that literally hundreds of people I’ve encountered about this have come to a consensus about; similarly, your many arguments to “prove me wrong” are rather suspect if not flat-out wrong.
P.S. You never explained about why you like Drownball.
Wait. Are you arguing that Wizards are useful with Draw Out or Math Skill? Because that doesn’t contradict what I said at all about Black Magic being useless.
lessee… move 3 vs. move 3… range 1 weapon vs. range 1 weapon… yup, it’s gonna come down to magic. Wiz gon’ fuck you up.
And by the way, Tactics is basically one of my top ten games I’ve ever played, and I never even came close to beating it, I got stuck between the two Wiegraf battles where you have to save but if you don’t or can’t win you aren’t able to level up. In the second battle he turns into Aries and summons a bunch of demons on his side. The only game where I have logged like seriously 80 or more hours in. Shit is intense.
It might have been 100 for god’s sake. Literally all I did one summer in Jr. High was do yardwork, play with my dog, read Amazing Spider-Man and Ulitimate Spider-Man and play that game, because it’s fucking insane
With your 200 hp?? Good luck. I could seriously just run up on you and drop you…forget about elemental or math skill. Not to mention…arent wizards on the lower end of the speed scale? Yea…i like me.
See? This is why they need to make FFT multiplayer…it sells itself. Why dont we have this Square??