focus sash doesn’t work vs mega kanghaskhan, btw
scizor gets in a bullet punch vs kanghaskhan but will probably get 2 turn ko’d by fire type attack or seismic toss
SR is good in general if you can get it up and the opponent wants to switch a lot to take less damage from attacks. all about momentum when SR and rapid spin are put into play.
Probably not optimal but my Noivern with a rocky helmet takes at least 1 brave bird (may be 2 can’t remember exactly to 100% confirm) bringing a life orbed fletchling down to half health before finishing it with dragon meteor next turn (or in the same turn if it wasn’t switched in)
Haven’t tried it without the helm or against none-life orb Talonflame, but at least thats confirmation he can survive the bird to retaliate. (This is with a simple special attack/speed ev build with no defense or HP)
I’m pretty sure the Kangaroo will probably get banhammer’d as every day it has something new to troll with, but I still haven’t had any problems with fighting it…
It’s just like my experiences with Garchomp in Gen IV-- Everyone was losing their shit about it being everywhere, and I was just shrugging my shoulders and fainting the thing on that predictable ass set-up turn it always tries to get away with… it got banned, and then next thing I know, Lati@s near uber mugs are staring me in the face, and I’m just thinking, “Hmm, that’s really hypocritical…”
I wonder if Shield Dust can cancel the Attack boost of Power-Up Punch? I need to go try that…
when garchomp was legel in gen IV, this was pretty much every team:
garchomp/garchomp counter 1/garchomp counter 2/garchomp counter killer 1/garchomp counter killer 2/tyranitar
that was your team, if you didn’t run it, you lost, this is boring, so instead, they banned garchomp and the metagame was soooooooooooooooo much better, there was variety, every kind of playstyle was viable, it was fun, you could run pretty much anything you wanted and have great success
this is basically what mega kangaskhan is doing, you need to run either run mega kangaskhan or mega lucario/ghost with wisp/talonflame/stealth rock user/filler/filler or get swept by him, this is boring and not worth it, yes, he can be beaten but you literally need to make an anti-mega kanga team to do so
this was the same problem with blaziken, you either gave in or ran an anti blaziken team (like my first team who literally made blaziken his bitch) and get swept by some other shit
mega gengar is a whole other beast that was probably the most broken thing in the game, there was literally nothing you could do to stop it if he predicted right
smogon decided that latias and latios might not be so bad, so why not let them down without soul dew and see how it goes, latios got rebanned pretty quickly but latias stayed as it was the biggest check to salamence, which that game eventually became salamence/latias/scizor/heatran/filler/filler so once they banned latias (as it was the bigger problem), salamence had no worries and eventually banned him, and lo and behold, the metagame was fun and balanced again, running a lot options, etc.
it’s better to ban things early than it is to let them linger as it allows for a much faster growth in the metagame, this is why blaziken, mega gengar, and mega kanga (eventually) are banned on smogon, instead of figuring out how to counter those pokes, we can develop a much more balanced metagame that doesn’t have a certain style or pokemon to dominate, if deemed okay, they will unban the pokemon and see if the pokemon isn’t as big of a threat
but don’t bring up gen V, a lot of wish that we can erase that gen from our minds, for some reason smogon never banned drizzle as that was the biggest problem with the gen (they were literally banning everything that abused it like swift swim, thunderus-I, tornadus-T, manaphy, and keldeo was on deck to be suspected), but that’s in the past and now we don’t have to worry about the weather wars as much, which already has created a much more balanced metagame
i would assume shield dust would block the effects of PuP, but the pokemon that learn it are all OHKO’d by return anyways so it’s a pretty moot point, especially when their hidden abilities are way better than shield dust (venomoth gets tinted lens and dustox and vivillion get compound eyes)
What’s its nature? Mine is Jolly. The only reason I use Brave Bird Man is because of Azumarill.
It didn’t. Only Pokémon with Guts ignored the stat drop. Façade now eliminates the effect.
I guess the facade sets I’m thinking of were all on guts pokemon anyways.
You know… with every one shitting their pants over Kanga and Roo, I want to talk about a Pokemon that pisses ME off… That goddamn, predictable-ass Washing Machine.
I am sick of seeing this damn thing every time I battle… Rotom has other forms too, you know. At least do something other than spam Volt Switch or try an obvious Will O Wisp on my Physical Attacker… It’s so transparent, its invisible… Volt Switch/WoW/Hydro Pump/Pain Split… At least switch the moves up or something, damn. Please try something else… PLEASE.
Fuck that stupid Washing Machine. It’s boring as fuck, and if you use it, you are an unoriginal goober.
Well there are Specs T-Bolts and Scarf Tricks.
Of which I have only seen one of… It was Scarf, but he was still running Cowardly Attack, er I mean Volt Switch/Hydro Pump/T-bolt/Trick, so not exactly game changing, but at least I couldn’t predict it turn-for-turn like I do the “standard” set…
I ought to run a Lanturn just to show these rooks how a real Water/Electric gets down…
But I love washing machines.
(Whem they stop trolling Rotom-F I’ll switch.)
scarf rotomW is one of the better pokes pre pokebank. trick scarf on a wall or blast things with hydro pump. note that it is outsped and bopped by scarf excadrill mold breaker eq.
post pokebnk hes not as good imo, but is still strong. a reliable WoW user and water type and electric type is just valuable utility wise. volt switch carries great momentum.
Post bank he’s not as good? Nigga bullshit, Rotom W beats damn near everything, if he’s OU prebank, then he’s super OU postbank. He beats so many of the common threats.
Fixed that last sentence. j/k
Yeah, I know the Washing Machine keeps a lot of people from getting ROFL-stomped by Talonflame/Kanga/etc… but it is just so annoying to see it on practically every team I face.
I’m half-trolling, though, so no need for you-know-who to post a wall o’ text about how great it is in “da metagame…”
i mean all switchy moves are very good. confirm they switch or not etc.
one of the reasons why i like stealth rock really.
Just wanted to congratulate Tolore. Good shit :tup:
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokebankoubeta-69884429
So I’m playing a team full of OP and af pokemon, but I had to whip out that mud slap Kangaroo on em…
New thread:
why is mega kanga so stupid
you should run healing wish shenanigans with mega kanga just cause it’s funny
i know this guy is shitty butt his was too funny
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/oubeta-69891456