Spies like us: The MvC3 C.Viper Team/Matchup Discussion Thread

Wait… Is there something special about the molecular Shield Relaunch. I was having a bitch of a time getting it working, but that might have been hitstun scaling. It’s always confusing as different assists seem to affect that scaling differently.

um not really. But its if he wanted to use that assist. I think its probably hitstun scaling. Its pretty hard to relaunch after. I was wondering if you can do seismo them into molecular shield and then burn kick

I didn’t really like rocks for viper but in training mode with the assist I noticed rockes holds them up long enough to do a seismo>H.Burnkick relaunch, pretty sure it was corner only… I only played around with it for a few minutes so i’m sure there are probably better relaunches

tried jill out today. she is so badass. I definitely wanna keep her. I think arrow kick is a really good assist im gonna go with Viper(Seismo), Jill(Arrow Kick), Amaterasu(Cold Star)

If you must play Viper with Jill I think that’s the best team for it. However, as I’ve been working on my Jill Tech video, I’ve shied away from Viper/Jill. I decided to make my Viper team about Viper (Viper/Magneto/Dante), and the Jill team about Jill.

Like I said, I’m making a video of all my jill tech. If you know the setups she has a Wesker style vortex… except with more options.

Is Viper/Jill not very strong. Arrow kick seems like a pretty good assist that you can hide behind as you advance forward and Vipers seismos can help jill etend her combos I beleive and her burn kick assist gives access to unblockables

It’s not weak at all, but at the same time, I’m not convinced it’s any better then having Magneto/TaxMaster/IM/Doom/etc on you team. And all of those characters are much better.

Jill is a scary character, but you really need a team backing her up. You run into alot of trouble when you start taking her assists away.

Alrite. Im gona go wtih Thor then instead of Jill. Hows Viper(Seismo), Thor(Mighty Spark), Amaterasu(Cold Star) sound. Im starting to really like thor. He is really good or just looks badass.

im thinking if this doesnt workw ell I might just go with Ironman instead of Thor.

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Thor… I wouldn’t go that far… :slight_smile:

Seriously, Jill Viper is good, but ultimately, you should play the team your most comfortable with. For example, Someone just pointed out that the magnetic blast loop with Magneto was better then ROM, and now I’m feeling magneto alot more (I fuckin’ hate that ROM combo). If you want to mak a Jill team I can help you with that too. Jill is crazy fun.

hmm alrite I dont mind. Im gona try this team out. The team ive been playing and am most comfortable with is Trish/viper/Sentinel. I like the combo extensions from Trish to Viper and Round Harvest unblockables. I also kinda like drones for Viper.

I think I have a couple ideas for a Jill team I would like to run by ya but ill do that in the Jill forums. =)

It’s funny, the Viper forums care more about Jill then the Jill forums do… lol.

Wow, that’s kind of depressing FlyingVe. :frowning:

Shrug

I think it’s just an attitude thing. You demonstrate something complicated and difficult to a Viper player, they hit the lab and level up. You present the same thing to a wolverine player (for example), the call it theory and go back to mashing on Haggar.

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i practiced magneto for quite some time yesterday. i think getting the hyper grav loop down made the game extremely unfun as any touch is a free kill that, while requires a level of execution, is very repetitive at best. viper’s execution is a ton more dynamic (i like dante in this sense as well) and personally i think doom requires more creativity (e.g. throwing in assists at different parts of buktooth loop, height of opponent in buktooth loop yielding different results, etc.) really gives me the sense of accomplishment for dealing the damage.

welp, at least i learned the hyper grav loop. that’s one less thing on the top tier mechanics list i haven’t explored yet.

I can do the hyper grav Loop just fine, I just can never get ROM down consistently. I like Magneto more than IM overall because of the Safe DHC’s and Mageto being boss as fuck in this game.

its cause jill is awesome. Im really glad you found a way to make viper/jill work. Im gona start developing that team. Ive been playing Viper/Amaterasu for awhile so Im comfortable with those two. And it works cause im looking for a third.

I kinda want an alternate Viper team as Im tired of Trish/Viper/Sentinel and I feel my Trish/Viper team is more beneficial for Trish

I want my all female team of Viper/Jill/Trish but I need to learn Jill and re learn Trish :(.

haha. I dont think that team would work very well because Trish is a beast in xf lvl 3 she really needs an otg to extend her combos. But I dont know have you tried it. And we can both learn Jill together Nissan. =)

you got xbox live.

btw any of you guys in the west coast. Im gona hold some sessions for mvc3 and ae if anyone would wanna join.

I’m in the midwest. And I don’t really live near anything…

I’m working on a Jill tech video at the moment. So I’ll let you guys know when I finish. Gonna show off my personal tech, I’ve never seen anyone use or talk about my tricks before.

Due I dont know how you played Jill. She is really hard. Im gonna stick with her though. I like her play style and she works really well with Amaterasu and Viper. Arrow kick is a really good assist. It shoots out fast and provides a hard knockdown so i can go for a box loop from it. I got practice with this team more but I like it. After getting the jill bnb down I should look for more setups and stuff