Wow, stair kicking after a jam session would be gdlk. One of those things ill work on for sure.
On another note, Chris - combination punch is a random good assist for Viper.
Where do you use it in combos /neutral with her?
so say im doing im doing a basic SJ tri dash approach with S (and it hits) ill do M+Call Chris, H, MP TK, then after the knockdown go into the basic box loop, end with Dante Jam session, 2 seismos, and a jumpcancel (regular) heavy burn kick into hyper. IIRC it does somewhere around 800-850 (you can DHC of course after) and builds some good meter. I just started using it last night so im going to experiment with it more now that I am comfortable with this team.
It is nice in combos because it does solid damage for an assist and only is 2 hits so it doesn’t scale nearly as bad as some assists do. It also obviously creates the hard knockdown which is nice because then if it hits Viper can go into a nice combo :).
Like I said though I just started fiddling around with this team yesterday last night so im still getting down the synergy with Chris with Viper/Dante. But so far I like it, it is a lot of fun.
Cool, yo. anybody up for some matches i’ll be on today psn:slychivas90
ive started using she hulk/viper bk assist/ dante weasel shot anyone think that this team could work out well or just general thoughts on it?
The DHC capability is pretty nice but other than that you’re looking at a team that could be much more. Dante’s weasel would be good for both she-hulk and Viper but other than that the synergy between shulk and viper are lacking. Your best bet is the BK for Shulk but even then to do anything really amazing like an unblockable would be exceptionally hard to near impossible because of the long LONG start-up frames on BK assist. I could see you doing a bit more with torpedo with viper but even then I just feel like you can do more without shulk
who do you think could work well on point?
Typically on any viper team, Viper is the best point character. Even when you’re using Mangeto, it works best with Viper/Magnus/Dante.
I’ve honestly been testing out Viper as my 2nd character lately. Testing some alpha counter ToD combos. But as for you Griizzly I do believe Viper is definitely a point character. To have two assists that compliment her really make her a force. I use mag’s beam assist and dante’s jam session. Gives you great control of the screen and her seismo game. Gives great combo potential aswell. Any fast or horizontal beam assist works with viper well. And anything that gives her lockdown potential like Ammy’s cold star essentially make viper a dangerous on point character. If you’re still looking for a team though i’d look for any assists that could potentially give you multiple facets of an offense first. You want that first good hit to give you a combo with viper. So any assist that can work into that is amazing. Some examples, haggar’s lariat is good assist that stuff’s offense and gives Viper a pretty full combo off a hit. Capt america’s shield slash has some unfound potential im pretty sure. Spencer’s angled grapple assist can convert a medium seismo into a full combo. Thor has the same potential as spencer’s assists. task’s assists work well with viper, I’m sure there are more good ones out there but i haven’t ran into them. akuma assist could easily be used to create some mindless offense.
Actually, I’ve been using TK assist for a little while now, I don’t think it’s worth putting viper on second for it though, I’ll usually wind up with her in back after some manner of DHC.
Logic is, the burn kick assist is nice but most of the time I’m busy abusing jam session so it didn’t get used alot, Alpha counter TK is hilarious in some matchups though, it helps alot against zero and his big laggy C attacks. They aren’t punishable normally, but that’s only if you care about blockstun in the first place :).
Last night I was running Team Broken (Zero/Viper/Dante) online and im seriously considering this to be my tournament team. It has to be one of the most frustrating teams to fight. You basically have 3 characters that are REALLY hard to touch and mix you up for free. Oh yea and you have Jam Session.
My Zero is still horrible right now but once I get him up to par with my other characters I think this might be the squad. I never thought I would get so much satisfaction out of so much cheapness. I don’t get my ghetto Dante+Teleport+Iron Man assist left/rights but I add one of the best characters in the game :tup:
EDIT: Oh yea and Zeros weird Navy/Red color go surprisingly well with Vipers main color and Dantes alternate costume (my favorite). It is unique and not an all black/white team that everyone runs. I really like the Blue/White Viper but it seems thats the only color people choose lol (I like being different).
Talk more about that team, I’ve heard many people try to combine zero and viper (myself included) and it has never ended well. What are you doing for DHC’s or assists?
Problem as I see it is that your just running zero/dante and viper/dante which are powerful but zero/viper isn’t. and having both characters can screw up your DHC’s. Also, if your looking for cheap have you messed with Viper/Dante/Haggar or Viper/Dante/Akuma?
I just started using the team last night (with a few beers in me too lol) so I don’t know too much so far. But basically as far as Viper/Zero goes you are right it isn’t the best. The team is basically set up so that its Zero/Dante and Viper/Dante since Dante is pretty much Zero and Vipers best friend in this game. Zero to Viper is pretty poopy DHC wise, you can connect her fireball motion hyper after a rainbow in the corner but you dont get all the hits so it isn’t worth it really.
Viper into Zero obviously works because Viper into anybody pretty much work lol. But im pretty sure Zero can start his lighting loop in the corner after burst time.
You can go into Zero’s lightning loop off her burn kick assist which is pretty neat. Smart players turtle up against Zero when he is close because his buttons are better, so you can call viper, activate Segonumagogrohg (whatever its called) do a low (for unblockable) and go into the loop. It is pretty gimmicky though, so it isn’t amazing by any means but hey its there.
I was trying to work on a combo with Zero where it ends in me calling jam session + OTG into downforward lightning , charged buster, raw tag in Viper during the hard knockdown, and go into burst time->rainbow since burst time into rainbow is the best viper+zero DHC. I don’t think it will work sadly though :(. Viper is too far away for it to connect and takes too long until after her tag animation to do it.
Im still in baby steps with Zero so once I become better and take this team to the training room more I will be able to post more about it. It isn’t the best team for Viper by any means, it is just really fun and cheap. IMO the best team for Viper (not best Viper team, but rather a team to try to bring the best in her) is Viper/Dante/Haggar IMO. I used it for the first time last night and of course people for some reason love running into Haggar :tup:. That team though made me want to take a nap with the 16 second hit confirms off Haggar lol.
When I choose a team (or character for FG’s in general) it needs to be a mix of good, characters I like, and fun. and adding Zero makes the team amazingly fun for me. It isn’t the most optimal, but ill sacrifice a little better quality for more fun if you feel me.
Im sure with a team this busted up theres got to be a few neat things.
I can see Zero being a good compliment to Viper. Seeing that they’re methods of poking and making combos are a bit different. Zero fishing for lvl 3 buster shots or whatever could be nasty. I just feel like you’d still need a good projectile assist for Zero to get his left/right mixups to be viable against good people. Just IMO
I’ve actually been learning some zero lately, and the Zero team and the Viper team are almost the same composition with the exception of zero and viper, they are almost all something akin to (Zero/Viper)/Dante/(Projectile/Akuma). So I’ve been considering treating it like a counterpick. Kinda like how you can bring in Haggar or Akuma if you need them, perhaps you could bring in Zero for Viper, there are some characters that Zero just shits on.
Yea Zero is pretty dumb. I actually got a guy to ragequit, send hatemail, then block me in a matter of 5 minutes last night because I was taking a dump on him with zero lol.
The only thing I hate about using Zero is Zero mirror matches. MM in general suck but this one is especially annoying. I thought Viper was bad but she doesn’t have anything on how painful fighting another Zero with Zero is.
Im still trying to figure out what assist I am going to use for him. Shipugga is nice for some easy Dante left/right mixups. But I think im going to go with the projectile for some intense zoning purposes.
Zero is just too much fun not to use (for me at least). Zero, Viper, and Dante are probably my 3 favorite characters to use in the game due to their freestyle type gameplays and creativity you can do with them.
Expecting a post (more like hoping for one) from Chrisis any moment now about Zero/Viper cohesion 
Random Zero note, Dead Angle Ryuengin (the uppercut) has a ton of invul, but you can’t do anything with it, so no super broke BS like with Jill and Viper. Still it’s a useful option for some matchups, like against another Zero.
I wish more characters had some really broken stuff to them. So many characters in this game are just so boring. I hope when Ultimate Marvel 3 comes out the characters they add will be nice and busted.
I don’t know… I realize it’s part of Marvel’s charm, but I think the game could use a toning down across the board. Also, I want Rock and Lady, you hear me capcom!
I want edward falcon from powerstone. Or any powerstone character.