That’s dumb. How are they going to convince superheroes and supervillains that the story isn’t just a fake? How did JJ react to it? I doubt kingpin buys it, last I saw he was busy trying to kill May and MJ.
I don’t think I need a spoiler for this but just in case.
edit-actually I have no clue how to use the spoiler tags here, that’s how it is on other mbs…oh well.
Wait, Peter banged MJ on then ceiling in Aunt May’s house? When was this? Was it during Howard Mackie’s run on the relaunched ASM?
my guess on it
JJ is confused. He doesn’t even know what to believe anymore. The new Scarlet Spider group are totally black ops anyway. They showed that they can also assume civilian identities.
Yeah I wanna know too. Sounds like something from the '90s.
Reggie - You asked me before, I think in the Marvel thread but I’ll just respond here. I finally got around to watching Spider-Man 2.1. Well I watched all of the Spidey movies back to back on Friday when I was in my turkey coma lol! Anyway, 2.1 rules! You won’t be disapointed with the extended footage. One of the best if not the best superhero movies just got better! I’ll put this in spoilers just in case.
2.1
[details=Spoiler]There’s lots of bonus material in it, stuff that got cut from the final film due to time constraints most likely so a lot of the scenes are extended. One of the more important scenes is when Peter Parker is talking to the doctor. The line where Peter Parker tries to use his powers and says “Strong desire for what I want” makes a lot more sense now because it is something that came up in the conversation with the doc. There is also a scene where MJ’s actress girlfriend talks to MJ about accepting the proposal to JJJ’s son way too fast. The first Doc Ock fight scene is a little bit longer too. There’s lots of other extended scenes like these in the movie.
The best stuff has to be, remember that guy who got in the elevator with Spider-Man? The scene is entirely different, it’s the same guy but the dialog isn’t the same. It turns out he’s a PR guy who wants to promote Spider-Man and sell merchandise based on him, he comes up with “Thwip” cologne. 
He hands Spider-Man his business card and Spidey says “I don’t have any pockets!” Oh and the best part in all of 2.1 is there’s a scene where JJJ puts on the Spidey outfit that he had in his office! He has the entire suit on without the mask and is jumping on tables pretending to shoot webs! Betty, Hoffman (Ted Raimi) and Robertson are all looking at him through his office window like WTF. Damn it’s worth getting just for that scene! [/details]
2.1
[details=Spoiler]I personally own 2.1, but it doesn’t make a huge difference to me. The added/changed stuff is a mild curiosity, but if you already own the original version of 2, you might just rent 2.1.
The new Hal Sparks scene is funny, but I found Jameson prancing around in the Spidey suit a little creepy. Like, if I were Spidey, I would probably just make a new costume after seeing that scene.[/details]
Sorry, dude. I just made that up to amuse myself. I don’t think Spider-Man is allowed to have blatant sex. But who knows, maybe sano will write and illustrate a fanfic.
Maybe if it’s “The Other” Spider-Man and I get to use tentacles somehow. :badboy:
I couldn’t agree more.
I had no idea about this, and I gotta say that’s weak. With as much hype as Spidey’s un-masking created, Marvel picked a pretty lame way to smooth it over. I know comics are constantly evolving…but, that’s what, 40+ years of continuity radically undone and suddenly resolved in the span of a couple of months? Un-masking should mean something. Fucking 'nuff said. 
Marvel probably realized they done 'effed up. They couldn’t keep Spidey unmasked so they probably figured a quick bandaid fix, even a sucky one, would get the job done.
One Spidey villain I want to see come back is Tombstone. Gerry Conway wrote a great 4-part story on in on his run with Spectacular Spider-Man. Robbie had evidence to put Tombstone away but he was so freaked by Tombstone that he wouldn’t talk. And Tombstone killed A LOT of people. Robbie wouldn’t say jack. And in Tombstone’s mind, the reason he didn’t kille Robbie (just broke his back), was because he felt he was his friend.
This is something I’ve been wondering about: just who is Spidey’s best friend in the super hero community? Is it The Human Torch or Daredevil? Seems like Spidey’s kicked it more times with the Torch and DD, but DD knew who Peter was. Of course Spidey and Torch had this “usual place” they’d meet up at (Note: A No-Prize Award for the person who guesses Spidey & Torche’s meeting place). Spidey and DD clashes on several occasions but not nearly as many times as Spidey clashed with the Torch.
^ Human Torch more likely.
I don’t think that Avengers has really resolved it - and by “resolve,” I mean that the writers have closed the book on the entire issue of his public identity. I feel like that’s something Slott tossed in to give readers a bigger sense of a connected universe. I think everything important that’s happening to Spider-Man is taking place in his book.
Logically, just 'cause those government ops dudes told the media a lie doesn’t mean that the public believes them. People still believe Matt Murdock is Daredevil, so I’m sure there are still people in the Marvel Universe who still think Peter is Spidey.
Y’know, this reminds me of Spider-Man’s Tangled Web. It was only about 21 issues, but almost every single issue was PURE GOLD. Unfortunately, there was a shitty two-parter that featured Tombstone - the only blemish on an otherwise fine run of Spidey comics. Daniel Way wrote that Tombstone story, so no surprise there, I guess.
But everyone’s gotta track down the Tangled Web TPBs. Should be three or four of them. It’s top tier creators taking turns to write Spidey stories. There’s a rad Garth Ennis three parter, a Bruce Jones/Lee Weeks three parter, a Rucka/Risso issue, a Jim Mahfood issue, an Azzarello issue, a Paul Pope issue… They’re all awesome. COOKE even did two giant-size issues.
And Tangled Web is where Milligan and Fegredo did the “Flowers for Rhino” story, one of my all-time favorite Spidey stories. Crossing Flowers for Algernon with the Rhino makes for some surprising tragedy and comedy. Most Spidey stories seem to be about one or the other, but Flowers for Rhino hit all the spots.
I would also say Human Torch is Spidey’s best superhero friend. Mostly because they are actually good friends. I think DD tolerates Peter more than he enjoys sharing a friendship with him. Matt can be a pretty arrogant person and I think he finds Peter’s sense of humor and general sense of self-deprecation to be quite annoying.
Like when Daredevil was going through the worst time of his life, he didn’t turn to Peter. Even when Peter reached out to him, Matt basically just brushed him off and told him to bug off. I don’t think Matt is really close to anybody other than Foggy and maybe Ben Urich.
The Torch and Spidey hang out even when it’s not a team-up. They both respect each other, even if I doubt they would ever admit out loud. They joke around with each other like pals and they’ve gone to each other for pep talks when they were in dire straits.
Plus, they got that romantic special spot at the top of the Statue of Liberty, baby.
Zeph, you get the No-Prize for guessin Spidey & Torch’s meeting place!! :rock:
I read a single issue of Spider-Man’s Tangled Web. It was a reprinted issue in the Spider-Man Movie TPB. Was about these two kids living in an apartment. The younger brother is watching TV, the older brother is watching his little bro. Electro knocks Spidey into their apartment. The kids stand up to Electro and almost get killed for it, but Spidey owns Electro. There’s a cool bit at the end of how a hero does what he can, whether he wears spandex or not. Good stuff.
I’ve heard about that Flowers for Rhino story. I guess I’ll be picking up the Tangled Web trades to read it. Bummer about that Tombstone story. Why must they crap on a good villain like that?
DD can be arrogant? I guess I haven’t read enough DD to know. I’ve only read 10 issues of DD my whole life. Kevin Smith’s Guardian Devil arc (vol. 2 of DD #1-8) and Bendis DD #35 and #41, I believe. I thought Spidey might be DD’s best friend among super heroes but that could be Iron Fist. Like I said, I haven’t read much DD. Seems like Spidey and Torch are closer buds. Kinda hard to imagine seeing as they were always at odds with each other back in the day.
Yeah, that Electro story in Tangled Web was by Kaare Andrews, the same guy who did Reign. It’s pretty cool how different his art is on those two projects. I didn’t even realize it was the same guy.
DD is a loner who has a lot of pride. He isn’t always an arrogant blowhard, but he has it in him to ignore people who are trying to look out for him. He’s the type of guy who believes in himself and that his own way of doing things is right. If you think about it, he’s basically got the perfect supervillain origin, except that for some reason he consciously chose to be a hero. That’s one of the things that makes him so fascinating. Going all the way back to the Miller stuff, and up to the Bendis and Bru stuff, you can really get the sense sometimes that Matt is his own worst enemy.
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Spider-Man: The End
You know, about Tombstone, I just remembered that he showed up in the Brubaker/Lark Daredevil a couple months ago. Just another reason to start reading DD.
Well good thing someone brought him back. I love those hitman style villians.
Oh and every Spidey fan should check out Spider-Man: The Icon. It’s a huge $50 book that detail’s Spidey’s history and all things Spidey from toys, the movies, everything. LOTS of cool pictures to look at.
Next Spidey trade I get will be Kraven’s Last Hunt as I never did read the entire story arc.
You should definitely hit the Last Hunt, it’s easily one of the best Spidey stories I’ve ever read. It’s pretty simliar to Reign in that it has a greater sense of realism to it than most stories. However, where Reign has that depressing, gritty feel, Last Hunt is just fucking grim and disturbing.
Kraven’s Last Hunt is excellent. Who can forget the rat fighting against a spider while Spider-Man was fighting Vermin? That story was years ahead of its time.
Spider-Man Icon book, you can check out some pages for free. 
http://www.spidermantheicon.com/see_inside.html
Spider-Man’s history too. Groovy! LOL I had that Spidey Secret Wars Toy with that Hologram Shield long ago, the black suit one was dope too. :tup:
Kraven’s Last Hunt is one of the many reasons DeMatties is the man. I was thinking of making a list of must read Spider-Man stories to post here. Kraven’s Last Hunt is definitly top tier material and so is The Death of Gwen Stacey. Another great story that always gets overshadowed due to Gwen’s death is The Death of Captain Stacey. He dies in Amazing Spidey #90 as a result of saving a child from falling debre caused by Spidey’s fight with Doc Ock. The kicker? Ock’s tentacles go wild due to Spidey spraying them with a special web fluid that would cause the mad doctor to lose control of them. ASM #90 is one of my all-time fav Spidey comics due to the last few pannels at the end. Very, touching stuff. The arc starts in ASM #88.
sano, good looking out on Spider Man: The Icon. :tup:
