Spider-Man, The Amazing Thread

There was a second story concerning the fallout of The Last hunt, read it as a kid. It’s probably not as awesome as I remember it being, but check it out for the scariest rendition of The Lizard ever, drawn by Todd Mcfarelane.

Info here on the villian it featured. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calypso_(comics)

Man, like five years ago I found a TPB of T-Mac’s Torment arc for 2 bucks. I can’t believe I wasted two bucks on that - what was I thinking??? I probably wasn’t thinking at all. Boy, it’s hard to believe that Spider-Man #1 is one of the top-selling comics of all time.

The Spider-Man One More Day / Brand New Day E-Drama continues! Dan Slott, future Brand New Day writer talking back to someone dissing his work -

*Chill, biscuit.

Take a breath. Read an issue or two first. I’m VERY proud of SPIDER-MAN/HUMAN TORCH. But that project was a very specific animal. Every member of the new AMAZING SPIDER-MAN writing team is fully aware that this is AMAZING SPIDER-MAN and what that entails.

If you think it’s going to be a non-stop-yuck-fest…
If you think this book is NOT going to have intense moments…
If you think this book is NOT going to have a balance between fun and seriousness…

…then it is my proud duty to assure you that you are completely wrong.

I hope two months from now, after you’ve seen the first arc, I’ll have brought you around. I don’t know how much of my work you’ve read in the past-- but it’s not all SHE-HULK, and SPIDER-MAN/HUMAN TORCH. There’ve been darker projects, like ARKHAM ASYLUM: LIVING HELL and more mainstream titles like AVENGERS: THE INITIATIVE. I like to think that somewhere between that and POWERPUFF GIRLS I’ve shown a pretty good range.

I believe the one consistant element in my work-- going all the way back to my licensed property days-- with things like REN & STIMPY, TEENAGE NINJA MUTANT TURTLES, and BATMAN ADVENTURES-- is that I invest a lot of time, energy, and passion into studying whatever property I’m working on, getting the feel and the “voices” right, and providing NEW units of that entertainment. Give me some credit here. This is AMAZING SPIDER-MAN. It’s not SPIDER-MAN-JOKE-TIME-THEATER.

It’s my job, my pleasure, and my greatest dream come true-- to GIVE you the BEST issues of AMAZING SPIDER-MAN that I can. And that means AMAZING SPIDER-MAN. I understand that. It’s a compact I have with the readership and I sincerely take that to heart.*

Source -

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=137818&page=2

And what the heck, JMS not down with the story he’s writing, One More Day?

*Speak of the devil and he shall appear…

For whatever it’s worth, the situation is not as clear cut as one
might hope. The reality of any writer workingfor any company, DC or
Marvel or Image, is that when you’re handed a franchise character,
you’re basically entrusted with something that the company owns, and
the company has final say in what happens to that character, because
as a writer, you’re only there for a certain amount of time and then
the next guy has to come in. Spider-Man belongs to Marvel, not to me,
and at the end of the day, however much I may disagree with things,
and however much I may make it very CLEAR to all parties that I
disagree, I have to honor their position.

In the Gwen storyline, yes, I wanted it to be Peter’s kids, Joe over-
rode that, which is his right as EIC. I got the flack for that
decision, but them’s the breaks.

In the current storyline, there’s a lot that I don’t agree with, and I
made this very clear to everybody within shouting distance at Marvel,
especially Joe. I’ll be honest: there was a point where I made the
decision, and told Joe, that I was going to take my name off the last
two issues of the OMD arc. Eventually Joe talked me out of that
decision because at the end of the day, I don’t want to sabotage Joe
or Marvel, and I have a lot of respect for both of those. As an
executive producer as well as a writer, I’ve sometimes had to insist
that my writers make changes that they did not want to make, often
loudly so. They were sure I was wrong. Mostly I was right.
Sometimes I was wrong. But whoever sits in the editor’s chair, or the
executive producer’s chair, wears the pointy hat of authority, and as
Dave Sim once noted, you can’t argue with a pointy hat.

So at the end of the day, all one can do is try to do the best one can
with the notes one is given, and try to execute them in a professional
way…because who knows, the other guy may be right. The only thing I
can tell you, with absolute certainty, is that what Joe does with
Spidey and all the rest of the Marvel characters, he does out of a
genuine love of the character. He’s not looking to sabotage anything,
he’s not looking to piss off the fans, he genuinely believes in the
rightness of his views not out of a sense of “I’m the boss” but
because he loves these characters and the Marvel universe.

And right or wrong, you have to respect that.

jms*

Source -

http://jmsnews.com/msg.aspx?id=1-17697

Ha ha I wonder if Marvel will split up Peter Parker and Mary Jane or if this is the biggest swerve since Sentry. Maybe we’ve been hoodwinked with a bunch of phoney solicits and Aunt May will just end up biting the dust instead. Doubt that’s gonna happen but it would be crazy if Marvel pulled a psyche out like that. Guess we’ll see what happens.

Either way, I’m really enjoying One More Day. I wonder if JMS really means it or if he’s just helping Marvel mess with us. I just read part three and thought they did a good job coming up with the plot and imbuing actual gravitas. Wouldn’t really expect such a well-written comic to be written by a guy who doesn’t care about what he’s doing. It’s better than just having Superboy-Prime punch the walls of continuity.

Also, I greatly enjoy it when hardcore Internet fanboys get pissed off. Maybe I’m just sadistic that way. But I do enjoy seeing Marvel have the guts to tell a story that most fanboys would not want.

While not quite up to some of the other stories listed the Sin-Eater stuff was good as was the “Spider-Man vs. Wolverine” story.

That was a very interesting read. Nice to hear JMS thoughts one OMD and other Spidey stories. I think Joe made the right decision by not having Peter be the daddy of Gwen’s kids. JMS has created one of my fav runs on ASM. I’ll miss you JMS!! :sad:

Dan Slott also has me looking forward to ASM. At first I was on the fence but now I’m ready to face front and be a true believer! :wgrin:

Gotta say, I’m also enjoying OMD. The story is very emotional and moving. I’ve only read up to issue 2. Gotta get part 3.

Ahhh so that’s one reason why you enjoyed Sin’s Past. I thought it was a great story but so many people hated it. Those people go go shove a jack hammer up their anus.

Was that the story where Spidey got the cheap costume that had “Die Spine” written on the back?

Yeah, man. I’m all for doing unexpected and weird things to franchise players. I mean, it’s Spider-Man for cryin’ out loud. It doesn’t matter what Marvel does to him. They can always change it later. It’s not like they can ever permanently mess him up. Spider-Man will always be around. It’s not like they can run him into the ground and write something so stupid that they’ll have to cancel his comics and movies and videogames and lunchboxes.

Generally speaking, the people who hate on Sins Past seem like continuity whores to me. It’s like they think that story somehow completely invalidates Gwen’s death or something. But I love it 'cause there was some genuine heart in that arc. It’s just an imaginary story… aren’t they all?

And we’ve seen the end result of giving the fans what they want - that whole Jason Todd voting thing back in the day. That story sucks.

Yuppers.

When does issue 4 of OMD drop? I still need to get issue 3. Marvel could be screwing with us on axing Pete and MJ’s marriage but they could be dead serious. I’m totally on edge.

Zeph, do you think Spidey is an easier character to fix when Marvel screws him up? Was something I’ve been wondering about since I read your last post in the thread.

I definitely feel that Spidey is easy to fix. Marvel knows how important the Spider-Man is to their company so even when they do something terrible, they’ll go hire better writers. It might take a year or two before things get on track but it’s not like there will be irreparable damage.

Just look at how things were after the Clone Saga. Spidey’s situation in the stories was pretty messed up, with MJ faking her own death to get away from him. Who wrote that stuff? Howard Mackie? Eventually Marvel wised up and got Jenkins and JMS. Jenkins managed to tell good stories even during the period when Spidey and MJ were estranged. And then JMS finally brought them back together.

To me, that’s what you call “fixing” the character. As far as I’m concerned, as long as they can create good comics there’s nothing broken. Jenkins fixed Spider-Man by writing good stories and JMS eventually pleased the fans by fixing the character’s status quo.

And I think the reason why it sounds so easy is because they’re not gonna cancel Spider-Man even when it sucks. Eventually things will get better because someone talented will have an opportunity to write the comics.

Can’t really say the same with a character like, say, Adam Warlock. I mean, if someone screws him up, it might be another 5-10 years before he gets another shot at a revamp.

It’s like pro sports. Even if your team sucks, you just keep hoping there’s a light at the end of that tunnel. (Unless you’re a Knicks fan, because there clearly is no hope unless Dolan fires himself.) If you have a good franchise, the turnaround’ll be relatively short. If ownership/management sucks, you might endure a 13 year playoff drought before you start seeing progress. WE BELIEVE

Close friend of mines got an early issue of OMD part 4.

All i gotta say is

WHY Joe Q WHY!!!

I’m not buying another Spidey comic.:annoy::annoy::annoy:

hmmm a writer that couldnt handle the heat from some marvel dork? :lol: What JMS is saying is bullshit cuz if he owned a character he’ll be doing exactly the same as well.

It is ok to me. It is just how he is willing to dayum near destroy time to save his aunt? Are you serious? That i didnt like. Now what is up the hint of showing his daughter. Will there marriage stay intact?

uh oh

So what the fuck happened in OMD?

What he said. Big up to Marvel for saving me 12 dollars a month in 2008! :tup: Now back to reading my 400 + issue Spidey DVD-Rom. I’m up to 1965 now. Ah, while I read I can sit back, relax and reminisce. And wish Spidey wasn’t making deals that were so devilish. :rofl:

Spoilerooney for the last issue of OMD -

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=140806

Ah hell naw! Fuck Joe Q.

WTF is wrong with Marvel?

WHat happened to Mary Jane?

And They brought back Harry Osborn?

you see this is the reason why i dont bother with purchasing comics. I may not even bother dealing with Black Panther anymore. I have 2 more issues to go and im uncertain now. Well it is back to my desk and getting em in ways im not supposed to.

Fucking Wack

Joe Quesada One More Day interview part 1 -

Awwwwww naaaaaaaw!!! Naw, man!! NAW!!!:annoy: Joe Q is a fag. I’m pretty sure I said I’d make his head my new bowling ball. Or was it a golf ball? Whatever. Well, I hope that fat fool is finally happy. So what is Peter 19 now? Man Harry is back? I don’t wanna sound like a continuity whore but it really, really seems like Marvel has decided to screw us all. I guess Joe is against fictional character’s marriage or at least Spidey’s. So I guess no more MJ. Then again, once Marvel sees the huge backlash they done caused, maybe they’ll fix things. Man, I didn’t even read my issue 3 of OMD and I had a feeling Joe Q was gonna do it like this. Did I mention he’s a fag?