This is frank
Alright i just want to see what ppl think and shit so here we go, who do you think is the best at poker here in seattle? and whose do ya’ll think is the worst…fuck it just make a list damnit and get her done!
for me i’d have to say top 4 is king, trinh, rat, and myong…just cause i know they all have won hella money…the rest i’m not too sure about…
i already know where i stand on jeff’s list, and super joe’s list. So fuck you bitches
TAKING IT FROM THE BACK FOR DEM GREENBACKS!
God used divine intervention to allow Myong to be eliminated both times last weekend before I could get my hands on him! LOL JK!
He’s good. I think King or Trinh is probably the best, Rat a close runner up.
EFF JEFF nigga be hypin himself up hella.
GANK FRANK nigga makes crazy calls and sucks out.
And Ryan Loop’s Itachi fuckin sucks. He sucks. Poser ass nigga. Fake Naruto fan and shit!
EDIT-G-G-G-G UNIT!
D-D-D-DP UNIT!
King and Row beat my ass.
I’m on the bottom…
…but I will say I’m the best at dealing and shuffling…
Fucking Frank, takes a card off the deck and SLIDES the mothefucker half way to your seat. Bitch you won’t get any tips doing that…
Oh I and I get style points for my annoying chip movement(s)…
Seattle Poker Threat Assessment:
King-
Knows more about the game than anyone else, has more experience than anyone else, has more money than anyone else, you get the idea. This guy is the champion obviously. Expect high level play in all aspects of the game. He knows exactly what to bet in virtually every situation. He’s thinking more about the game than most people at the table, rarely making mistakes.
Trinh-
Also has a lot of experience. As everyone knows this guy is naturally good at all games, poker is no different. He does a lot of tricky shit at the table that you have to watch for. A+ table talk. If he’s involved in a hand watch out. Unless you think you have a read on him or a buff hand, post flop play with this guy can get a little scary.
Minh-
Very smart player with a lot of Casino tourney experience. Likes to talk a little at the table as well which can throw you off your game by making you over think a situation. Bluffs with confidence and isn’t afraid to talk some shit after you fold.
4)Mandel-
Mandel picked up the game hella quick and I think he’s only been getting better. He’s plays a very smart game. He knows how to stay out of harm’s way, not afraid to fold a hand after the flop with some money in the pot. But what I notice most and I think is his strongest skill is his betting. If he bets or raises most of the time he puts me in a position where I really have to think about what to do. He doesn’t let his bet give away his hand, which is a problem a lot of people have.
5)Bao-
Bao is hard to get a read on because at times he will be very quiet and others he will be a little more animated. He plays pretty tight for the most part and knows the hand rankings and how good his hands are. He likes to bet some hands pretty big, sometimes he has a hand, sometimes he doesn’t, but when he puts you to the test it can be tough.
7)Rob-
Rob tends to do some pretty random shit at the poker table. It’s hard to get a read on him because you just never know what he’s doing, and I think at least part of that comes from him not knowing what he’s doing. No offense, Rob. With that said, I know personally there have been numerous times where I thought to myself, “This guy doesn’t know what the fuck he’s doing and he doesn’t have shit,” then I go all in and he flips over a random set or something. Whatever it is that he’s doing, sometimes it works sometimes it doesn’t.
Think of this list as like where I would predict these guys placing in a tourney with just them. I would have included more people but I haven’t been playing with you guys at all lately, so this is just like what i would think about these guys based on what I know from when we used to play a lot.
I suppose it’s time for me to make a serious post about how I feel about the poker scene amongst Team Seattle since Frank is too pussy.
Alright, I think there are good players but I don’t think anyone’s thorough yet. No one’s killer status yet imo. A lot of us are still raw talent, wet behind the ears and whatnot. With that said though I feel that everyone that plays can be really really good.
I’ll say that I’ve been impressed lately by Sean and Rat. I haven’t seen Trinh play in a longtime but I already know he’s really good. He and Row are alike in that it’s hard to get reads on them. At least for me anyway.
I think while it’s easy to tell who’s the best out of everyone, anyone can win at anytime which just goes to show that everyone (besides the best) is around the same area of skill. It’s not really surprising to me to see that the people that are the best are the people that play at the casino, or have played there with some sort of regularity. And really to me, it’s all relative to what we did back then, goin to the arcade to get better. I think that’s what people gotta do to get better if they’re serious about gettin better that is.
I do agree with what you said…well except for the pussy part. We all haven’t really been playing for too long if you think about it. for most of us we are all kinda in the same area i guess…anyone can win at anytime. I know hella people have won tournaments (myoung, mandel, jesse, robert, trace, both kyle’s, sean, myself, etc. etc.) i actually think everyone has won at least 1 tournament. But i do agree with mandel about people going to the casino’s and playing tournaments there. In my opinion that’s where you can really find out where you stand, cause you’re playing against people that you don’t know, so you don’t have any idea on how their betting patterns are or any specific tells and shit. I will say this No limit tournaments at the casino are HELLA fun. you might even say they are more fun than house ones…IT’S LIKE BEING IN A GHETTO WSOP! Plus when you place you do win a buff amount of money. the tournament me and super joe entered i took 3rd and won like 200 bucks…so yeah i think that if people want to see how well they think they are they should go to a casino and play a tournament…but i don’t know about limit poker, cause for the most part that shit can be pretty nasty sometimes.
Oh shit, I’m top 7!!!
None taken. If I knew what I was doing, I’d fail in my goal of challenging SuperJoe for nastiest poker player in Seattle.
I can’t really make an ultra detailed post like Trace’s although I would like to. The problem is I have been pretty limited with who I’ve played with lately. I will say that the funnest and scariest opponent for me has to be Row just because of his ultra casual demeanor no matter what the situation. If you can force him out of a pot just be thankful that he didn’t come back over the top because, usually, you’re not sure which he’ll do. In terms of gauging who is the best I agree that none of us are really good yet, just pretty good, but the best way to tell in terms of raw data would just be average tournament placings rather than tournaments won. Because a lot of us like to play loose/reckless sometimes luck can be on our sides and win us a lot of hands we should lose and thus put us into position to win tournaments on basically luck. I don’t usually like to hype myself up, in anything, and I certainly don’t intend to do that by giving this example but it’s the only concrete evidence I have to illustrate my point. So anyways in the past 9-10 tournaments I have entered I have only been one of the first 3 out once. Now that may not sound that impressive except for the fact that 2/3rds of those tournaments have been six people or less. I will be the first to admit that my style tends to favor hanging around a lot longer than others but how much does it say about a player, really, if they win a tournament and then go out first the next tournament? It could be bad luck, yeah, or the win itself could’ve been good luck. I’m not tryin to put anyone on blast because we’ve all been there. We’ve all gone out first before. Sometimes you get put into situations you can’t get away from and you either suffer a bad beat or hit a wall that you couldn’t have expected. All that being said I think the main thing everyone should strive for should be consistency. Maybe it’s just how I feel or whatever but I would rather have 4-5 top 3 finishes rather than 1 win and 4 first or second out. Anyways, my two cents and all this. Casino tournament would be fun. They don’t wanna see the super turtle. You know how I do.
EDIT: I forgot to mention this but the Frank/Jeff rivalry is easily the most entertaining thing to watch at a table with all of us. I hope you can all be at a table with these two, especially if they are next to each other. I found myself paying attention to way more hands just because these two were in them against each other. Also, when Frank’s to my right I’m a bitch to him. I can’t help it. Sorry =[
I say we host a championship tournament at some venue where we gather all poker players in Seattle to play and make it a poker extravaganza. I’m thinking the World Series of Seattle Poker, Where South Meets East in a all out multi table tournament with something at stake. South side has it’s competitors (Myong, Bao, trace etc.) and East side has its players as well (King, Sean, etc.) and lets not forget about Team SKYWAY!!! Nigga (Row, Kchow, Minh, Garms, sometimes Trinh b/c of Sandy, Mandel (prodigy) etc. I propose a Tournament for the ages to be held.
I’m Thinking:
Buy-in: $25
Blinds: 30-45 mins
People: at least 20 men
Pot: aprox $500 split 50%/30%/20% for 1st/2nd/3rd
Then We will know… who the champ is
That’s a pretty bomb idea, I like it!
I think Kyle’s idea is cool but it’s going to be hard to find a date that everyone can attend imo.
I think we should do it with a shorter stack of chips and time limit though, that’s how casino tournaments run.
$2,500 in chips as is :
One of color A = $1,000
Two of color B = $1,000
Four of color C = $400
Four of color D = $100
Blinds will increase every 12 to 15 mins.
Blinds 30 - 45 mins, get that shit out of here SKYWAY!
I think Kyle’s idea is cool but it’s going to be hard to find a date that everyone can attend imo.
I think we should do it with a shorter stack of chips and time limit though, that’s how casino tournaments run.
$2,500 in chips as is :
One of color A = $1,000
Two of color B = $1,000
Four of color C = $400
Four of color D = $100
Blinds will increase every 12 to 15 mins.
Blinds 30 - 45 mins, get that shit out of here SKYWAY!
Skyway<Tacoma poker
I’m not even gonna talk about Tacoma v. Skyway poker because it seems pointless. That being said I will say that Kyle is one of the more solid players I’ve played with when it comes to Team Seattle peeps. Not only is he usually there late in tournaments but last week at Zach’s he came back from 1 chip to get in the money. That’s pretty buff.
I like Kyle’s idea and I would prefer that the stack is larger and the blind duration is a little longer than a normal tournament. I could list my reasons but I think I’ll post a quote to illustrate instead, because I don’t wanna type a lot.
Start quote:
The structure was perfect because it gave you $50,000 in chips to start out with. Most big buy-in tournaments, the buy-in’s $10,000 and they give you $10,000 in chips. So if you lose your first couple of hands, you’re down to $4,000-$5,000 right away and it changes the way you play. In this tournament, I lost my first couple of hands and I still had $43,000 in chips, so I was still able to play poker. That’s a big difference from other tournaments. If you get knocked down right away, you have to play a short stack. In this tournament, I felt like I always had a chance.
"The first day, I ended up with $220,000. The second day, I lost two big hands and got knocked down to $40,000, but I was still able to build back up because I had a lot of chips to play. So when you have the structure like this tournament was set up, it gives the better player a much better chance of winning
End Quote.
The last few lines are the main area of interest but the whole thing is more or less applicable. Phil Ivey said that in an interview. The link is at the bottom of the page in case anyone’s interested in reading. Do I think Phil Ivey has the best ideas for how we should run our tourneys? Not exactly but I think that his points are valid and worth considering. Less chips favors luck and random players. Bigger stacks favors consistency. I suppose you have to ask which category you fit into and therefore decide what you would be in favor of.
Trace: Are you guys still keeping track of the results of all the tournaments? If you are you should post the rankings. Let the stats speak for themselves.
Stats SMATS! I’ma much better player since those rankings! At least I think so anyway.
Super Joe: 12-15 min blinds indtoduces way too much luck into the equation of a tournament, and won’t give us ample time to play “actual poker” with the blinds set at 25-30 mins actual poker will be played and not rush poker. Poker is a game of patience and strategy not catch a lucky hand and hope everything goes well from there.
In terms of the chip count I was thinking more along the lines of 4.5-5k in total chips since it’s going to be a long tournament anyways. Blinds will start at 25/50 and double every time with no cap.
And in response to your comment “skyway poker< Tacoma poker” we can settle that at the table if you want, bring all your Tacoma players and I will gather Minh, Row, Garms, and myself and we can see if that statment is true.
danklin here,
let’s see…all of the tacoma players eh? that would be uh, me and jesse…well i guess you could count KKF and bill, but what are the chances that we would get a hold of them eh jesse? so yeah.