So...SF3 was considered a failure...what are some reasons that might be so?

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3S had (is having? It’s confirmed for SBO 2010 after all) a great run, like any popular game it has plenty of fans and plenty of haters

It’s a bit retarded to say that those who dislike it feel that way because “they don’t get it”, though. I’m more than capable of playing a lot of games I don’t play, I just don’t play them 'cause I think they fucking suck DAMN BRO YOU DON’T PLAY TEKKEN HAHA I BET YOU CAN’T EVEN WAVEDASH FHFGHFHsjdsh

There are cases like that, but is the “I can’t do it so I’m gonna bash it” thing exclusive to playing 3S well? Nope, it’s everywhere in real life too, so it’d be really nice if people stopped acting like 3S is “misunderstood”. Plenty of people “get it”, they just don’t like it

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ah yes another metaphysics expert

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#1= I have been around a LONG time and lurked forums LONG before I joined any and played in many, many tourneys across the USA. I know that a lot of the hate does come from not understanding it. In fact, I have changed a lot of people’s minds about 3S in person and in forums just by helping them get into the 3S more. A LOT of hate you see here (especially from new members trying to get attention) is just pure ignorance and A LOT of it does NOT make sense. Members like Ultima should know better but he is just as scrubby as the rest (trust me on this one). If you defend 3S while making them seem stupid for something they did, in fact, say that was stupid, then you did a good job. Everyone at the arcades loved 3S and played it, but a lot them also played CVS2, MVC2, Tekken whatever number at the time, and ALPHA 2 or 3 and YES, if the arcade had it then people played Vampire Savior or whatever DS game they had as well. The players that were frequent for many, many years (until all the arcades closed) loved all these games. So all this hate on the internet is 99 percent ignorance and trying to get attention (I promise you that).

#2= Vampire Savior does indeed kick major ass. Another great game and in fact, I have the entire DS squad as my desktop right now courtesy of Udon (I also have all the DS comics by Udon as well). But remember, Echo Black, just because you enjoy VS a lot more than 3S now does NOT mean you have to stop playing or liking 3S.

#3= I find Pimp Bishop very humorous…so sue me.

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I think all the 3S players need to think the last time they had to listen someone go ON AND ON about something they don’t get, because it really just makes you like a shit head when you do that for 18 pages.

I mean I don’t even have a stance here, but if you’re going to say “99 percent of anyone criticizing this thing I like are ignorant”, I mean what’s the fucking point? Isn’t that more of a religion than an opinion. How can you claim you perform critical thought when you decide things are perfect? It’s a perfectly fine opinion to have (I think hamtaro is perfect) however it isn’t something you carry into a critical analysis of something, in fact it’s not something you should really ever say out loud. Because nothing is perfect.

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make sense please…I don’t get it but please explain without going ON AND ON about it.

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What? This is a thread about 3S’s commercial success or lack thereof and there are 18 pages of screaming about whether it’s a good game or not. Also sorry I ninja edited on you. Like try to imagine something you don’t get, now imagine a guy who thinks it’s perfect, now you’re trying to have a critical discussion with him. He is an ass, he doesn’t think he’s an ass, you think he’s an ass. So that makes anyone declaring 3S perfect (you) an ass. Simple logic exercise. It also makes anyone who is going “WORST GAME EVAR” with no critical thought an ass too, though a complaint – whether it may be unfounded or not – is at least some kind of a logical conclusion. Where as declaring something perfect and all complaints about it as ignorance is really not logical in the least.

It literally is the same shit, forever. You love the game, you think it has no faults, and you think an overwhelming majority of complaints about it are people trying to get attention. Congratulations, you’ve just admitted you cannot defend this game because you cannot speak logically about it. It’s unfortunate because you do seem passionate about this game, and it’d be nice if you were able to do it justice by defending it properly. Though you either don’t seem interested in it or simply are unable to bring yourself to do it in your fervor, I guess there’s really no reward in it.

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Hamtaro is perfect

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Worm, who the hell do you think you are, making logical arguments and good sense on SRK?

We won’t stand for that around here.

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Pot calling kettle black.

yeah i think that goes both ways. I’ve seen the same shit from Turbo players.

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you didn’t quite read my post the right way

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3S is NOT perfect. Nothing is. The faults that 3S has is mainly the tier lists. That you have to work harder with some characters than others, and that’s fine. I like beating a really good Yun or Chun with my Necro. But I don’t let the tiers bother me. I except it for what it is. I have fun with it, it takes years and years of practice to be good and compete with the “big boys” which makes you feel like you accomplished something, and I love the cast.

anyways, 3S is not perfect and nothing is. The reason I seem the way i do is because most NEWCOMMERS are ignorant about 3S and talk shit on it to get attention. Also trying to appeal to the “OG” or SFII crowds.

But like what you like. I just prefer 3S and another thing that is ANNOYING as it is STUPID is these idiot members implying that 3S is a dead game. go to GGPO. new players EVERY day. 3S is far from dead and one day Capcom wil lrelease it for the latest consoles.

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agreed although 3rd strike got it faults damn chun and yun hahha it a lot more fun for me to get my ass kick on ggpo with ibuki from really good players then do good/ okay with gen on street fighter 4.

I can play like 30 matches with out winning maybe only 3 or 5 and have the person who was winning quit lol.

im that much stubborn

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wow dude, you are just like me. I will play FOREVER against a better player until THEY quit. I much rather play people on my skill level or above it then players underneath it. ALTHOUGH, I will play anyone who sucks or is a beginner and try to help them get better.

was it you that said that there are a lot of assholes on GGPO? yes, there are SOME, but for the most part I have found some really cool cats and these are usually the players you play against the most because of it and also if your pings are lower than 100. glad you like 3S and are a true competitor and not a rage quitter like some.

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actually

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well there some people i like to fight against like dyne and rpd rookie since dyne a really nice ibuki that destroy me and rpd rookie amaze me with his Q i started want to started to learn Q.

sadly when i do have a good match someone i cant type to them gg after it done because i have to quit out of ggpo sever to stop myself from crashing with people after a few rounds. it a annoying problem i have with ggpo which sucks because people cant watch either.

i dont know i can play 3rd strike with one person for like a hour or even two

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The boom of 3D fighters such as Tekken and Soul Calibur.
Lack of familiar characters (whereas Alpha 3 had all the fan-favorites from SF2 and was around at the same time).
Too many SF2 revisions.

Anything else I missed?

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look people.

even though i said i wasn’t gonna post again here at this thread for 2 weeks till everybody calmed down…i’ll post this last thing …then i’ll disappear for 2 weeks.

maybe sf3 didn’t suck azz…maybe it didn’t suck balls…
maybe its an ok game…

my point is…if capcom is gonna call it sf3…naturally i’m expecting the very best from capcom…which i dont think sf3 was.

if they released the exact same game…but with a different title…meaning not the official sequel to sf2…then i’d say it was an okay game…n not a sucky game.

but they called it sf3…but it had serious problems with its gameplay mechanics…n the character roster wasn’t the best of choices…so…i get offended by that title…thats all.

perhaps capcom fighting jam is ok, sucky, or great…i dont know…havent played it…should come in the mail by tomorrow cuz i ordered it…

if, after playin it…and i considered it on sf3 level of enjoyability and playability=i.e. its quality…
i’d consider it just a “okay” game. not great, not terrible,…just, okay.

its not so much the game that makes me call it sucky…its the #3 after street fighter title that makes me call it sucky.
thats all.
i just, expected better from capcom. thats all.

look,…when sf2 first came out…everybody thought it was “perfect”…but when someone discovered the 3 hit=dizzy effect…n every scrub started spammin the elbow shouryuken combo…then that game…that everyone thought was flawless…turned suck ass real real quick!!

looking back…after soooo many years ago…the original sf2 did suck azz.

see my point?

like i said i’ve playin the street fighter series since the very first one back in 1989…i luv sf…but…i just cant luv sf3…or better put …the number 3 after the title.

i “get” sf3
its not “too advanced” or
"too hard"

when i owned my copy…played…tried to enjoy it…i “got” it…but it just wasnt all that, in my opinion. thats all.

i dont even miss it. the only thing i miss about is makoto and ibuki…which were the two characters i played the most with…but thats all i miss about it.

i own fate unlimited codes for the ps2…and that game…IS THE HARDEST , MOST DIFFICULT fighter that exist.
the visciously genius AI,
the insane complexity of each character’s combo list, that makes tekken’s 10 hit combos look easy to pull off in comparison,
the super precise timings for pulling off attacks and reflect defenses,
etc…etc…

street fighter 3: 3rd strike…is not too hard, or advanced, or nuanced…or any of that for that matter.

it just wasn’t all that, thats all.
i just expected more.

n i dont mind getting attacked, or flayed, or jabbed n poked…just,…give me something to work with when you give me your response to my posts…

tell me what’s so great about sf3, in your opinion, in somewhat detail,…

then you can kick me in the balls!
heh.heh.

i want good debates, arguements, n conversations about our beloved and hated games…so we can all savor its fuckin sweetness.

mmmmmmmmmm…the fighting game genre…

the greatest genre of all!

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i can’t read this

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me neither.

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The best thing about SF3 was parrying, as it was one of the most innovative systems in a fighter. Then again, I think Sam shodown had it first, so…