People already have enough reasons to use MetaKnight. If People play low tiers, MetaKnight will just have an easier time trampling everyone. If barlw had Melee’s skill gap, you’d see a low tier in the top 5 (Axe at Apex placed tied for 5th using PIKACHU!).
Matchup knowledge. Enjoy being smarter than an unknowing opponent while he’s still unknowing.
MetaKnight’s 4 worst matchups are
MetaKnight:DiddyKong 55:45 (MetaKnight’s Favor)
MetaKnight:Snake 55:45 (MetaKnight’s favor)
MetaKnight:IceClimbers 55:45 (MetaKnight’s favor)
MetaKnight:Falco 55:45 (MetaKnight’s favor)
MetaKnight:Wario 55:45 (MetaKnight’s favor
MetaKnight:MetaKnight 50:50 (Metaknight’s favor)
(based on a matchup chart I found here.
Because skill gaps exist, MetaKnight is beatable. But if everyone of equal skill played, MetaKnight would always win.
I’m glad barlw players are less of complainers compared to Melee players (Jigglypuff is not ruining anything, except teams), but if you look at what the removal of MetaKnight can free up, I personally think it’s worth the cost. If you go to big barlw tournaments, about 1/3 of every setup has a MetaKnight playing. Do barlw players really want to play that character that often? But then again, MetaKnight is the most fun character to play because he actually has some offensive capability.
Because the game as whole is on a better balance plane Shroomed places well with Doc, Kage beat Mango with Ganon, Armada brought Peach back, and Falcomist proved Mmarth is dead, and the game is getting faster every 6 months. That’s why the Melee metagame>>>>>>>. And idk about your location but up north and Westcoast it seems Melee is getting as much play as possible. Brawl is the one dead around these parts
I’m pretty sure this post is agreeing with me and backing up all of my points. Right? O.o
And yeah, MK can be fun, but I just feel dirty whenever I play him. Especially when I beat some of my friends’ main characters just by playing as gay as possible, having hardly any Meta Knight experience myself. It’s just stupid how fundamentally good he is, and yes, at the very top level of play, he’s almost always going to win. I think M2K would’ve won Apex if Brood didn’t roll through and screw up the entire bracket with his upsets.
And I don’t know, there’s a lot of MK complaining. The sheer size of the Brawl community means the amount of MK complainers must surely surpass the amount of Jiggs complainers O.o
Also, is Jiggs considered one of the best, if not the best character in the game now? I know her tier placing in the last, really old SBR tier list was a lot lower (somewhere around Falcon).
I guess in numbers MeaKnight complainers outnumber Jigglypuff players but I think Jigglypuff players out proportionize the MetaKnight complainers.
Jigglypuff is not a top tier character. I’d make a new tier called high-top and put Jigglypuff and Peach in it. Jigglypuff loses to Doctor Mario, Fox, and Marth, and she goes even with Falco and Peach. She does have her problems. Haters hate her because she is boring to fight against.
However, in teams she should be banned. Imagine a character with a ohko move that hits in 1 frame that’s really difficult to punish. And she has an amazing spacing tool that can hit opponents whenever she wants. And She’s very difficult to kill. And she has really good tools for saving partners. Oh, wait a minute. That is Jigglypuff in teams.
I figured they hated her because she can do a rest combo on an opponent with tiny amounts of damage and KO them with it (watched someone get combo’d to death after having just 9%). She just fishes for her death-combo strings and then also uses superior recovery for some mega gimps. Two things that I don’t think any other characters really have. Then she really enters the competitive scene and everyone is MAD.
That’s a fantastic excuse to get some Doctor Mario in though.
The rest comboes are the only parts spectators will cheer about when watching a Jigglypuff player play. Good Jigglypuffs don’t fish for 0-death comboes. It’s a very punishable move if they fail so they only go for it when they know they can get it.
And her gimping ability is another reason why she’s broken in teams. Jigglypuff edge guards off the stage, farther than most characters. It’s really difficult to interrupt an edgeguard to save your partner when your opponent is so far off stage.
Doctor Mario can cure our Jigglypuff problem if Marths and Sheiks didn’t have such an advantage vs him (70:30 so I’ve heard).
Why would you want to ban the one of the only characters who does cool shit? Make noise and get Nintendo to stop gouging their playerbase and patch the damn game.
Brawl > Melee though: prettier Graphics + Snake, MK, Wario, PKM trainer, D3, Wolf and Pit… absolutely no contest. Oh, the Supers look cool too.
The competitive Smash community is hardly recognized by Nintendo officially, and Nintendo has never released a patch for any game ever. Support for this game has already ended as well. You can’t even submit screenshots/replays anymore (although that’s more than likely due to the rampant hacking).
And people want to ban him because he’s the only character actually worth playing if you want to win these days. That’s also just your opinion on him doing cool shit. There are tons of other very fun-to-play characters that could be more than viable if Meta Knight wasn’t a part of the picture. The large majority of the cast would even be capable of being secondary counterpicks. Too bad right now the counterpick system is broken because you just have to pick Meta Knight round 2 and you’re safe no matter who they pick.
I wish they would just release Ultra Smash Bros. Brawl or some crap and re-release the game with balance changes and a bunch of new content. Too bad they’re clueless about competitive Smash and I could hardly see them being trusted with something like balancing the game.
Not to mention Sakurai working on something completely different (Kid Icarus) and founding a team that isn’t even first party with Nintendo. We won’t see another Smash Bros until there’s another Nintendo console, and then we all have to pray that Sakurai feels like making another one, lest Nintendo scraps plans for it altogether (as they were prepared to do with Brawl).
Fix’t for correctness. Since the game has come out MK has had several techniques used for stalling and otherwise to prevent the player at hand from ever being damaged in the least banned. IDC, planking and scrooging have all been BANNED since their discoveries. They keep banning more stuff to preserve MK as a character which is utter bull. MK is in fact BROKEN. No two ways about it. Can he be beaten? Yes, that has been proven. But that still doesn’t make him any less of the overpowered characters that he is. Metaknight does in fact outclass EVERY character by leaps and bounds. According to Crow, Metaknight is 3-27 times better than every character in the game. 3 times better than Snake and 27 times better than Ganondorf.
Smash64 and Melee were sort of patched/updated when they made them for other regions. Most of what was fixed in Melee as it got updated was removing glitches, but both Smash64 and Melee received character balance updates in the PAL/final versions. What did barlw get to fix characters? Not much more than the removal of MetaKnight IDC glitch and Wolf’s scarring removed.
Graphics don’t make a game. They sell a game. Humans are so dependent on their sense of sight. We judge everything by appearance. It’s really a sad thing.
Yeah, there is a contest, because none of that added on content really matters if the gameplay behind it can’t enhance them.
Shouldn’t call someone a retard when you can’t spell. Graphics are relevant to the quality of a product, especially a product like Smash. So is character selection. I find, with a better selection of characters, superior graphics, nicer stages, a better soundtrack, solid gameplay and some neat item additions… that Brawl is the superior product. You’re welcome to disagree, but there’s absolutely no reason to be angry because I don’t happen to share your opinion.
You shouldn’t claim your incorrect facts as your opinion.
graphics don’t make gameplay. They make us want to start playing the game, but once the game is started, graphics don’t matter anymore.
Brawl does throw away some of Melee’s greats (Pichu, Mewtwo, Roy) for some new ones. many new ones. They would have more value if the gameplay behind the content had more value.
Nicer stages? 75M. So many new stages have such overdone stage hazards.
As mentioned before too many times, barlw does not have solid gameplay.
Then tell me why Melee’s metagame is still evolving after like 9 years and Brawl’s has halted thnx to MK? Even though Apex shown ge can be beaten still he over shadows everyone else.
And nicer stages?! Where is FoDs? Dreamland? Melée Yoshi Story. Show me a better selection of matches than Melee’s MLG run, R.O.M., FC6, and FC Diamond (yeah I’m goin’ way back) that’s all right I’ll wait.