So...is everyone confortable with the way America is headed?

Calm down. I’m not saying that liberals are devoid of wrong, because both sides have their faults, with either extreme being harmful. I was merely pointing out a prominent theme that recent conservative movements have been emphasizing, and merely noting the hypocrisy.

Yeah. I’m fine with it.

Here’s my whole point though, who cares? Rhio brought up some decent points but instead of focusing on that you bring up some random “argument” about hypocrisy that has nothing to do with the argument at hand. You’d rather but your blinders on and just throw out insults.

Seriously, what do the extreme lunatic right wingers have to do with the healthcare debate and the way this country is moving? Nothing, so why bring it up?

The original post is clearly biased in one direction (which is almost setup to attack any opposition and begin a flame war), so it’s hard to take this thread seriously, and I apologize for not doing so. In the end, if you think you’re going to get a proper debate in this thread, be ready to be disappointed.

And many of these conservative movements are revolving around tax and healthcare.

I still don’t understand the point. Does the fact that the lunatic right ignore bush’s removal of certain rights make Obama’s removal of rights ok or something? Or did you have another point? I honestly couldn’t tell because it just sounds like typical “rep vs dem” partisan bickering to me.

Read the first post. The OP basically says, do you agree with the liberals who “supposedly” don’t do any research at all and supposedly blindly follow the President, or the conservatives who apparently are the only ones that do research and are apparently the only ones smart enough not to blindly follow the President? This whole thread started as a conservatives are holier than liberals debate at the get-go, and I was commenting on hypocrisy, which is very relevant to this thread.

I’m looking forwards to the rednecks starting the American Revolution 2: Electric Boogaloo.

I predict internal nuclear conflict which will tear the land asunder depleting the population to tens of thousands, easy pickings for the Russians to annex your western states and spread quickly across the rest of the country, before the Chinese steamroll them through sheer numerical superiority (after infiltrating the Russian high command thus preventing any nuclear retaliation of course) and conquering the whole North American continent after making a deal with the Canadians and poisoning the Mexican president with a tampered batch of gazpacho.

After assassinating any intellectuals left residing in the country, the plebs of Mexico are put to work in the newly planted rice paddies and bamboo forests as well as helping to cross breed pandas with Canadian grizzlies to create ferocious guard bears to watch over the Americans who will be put to work ironically constructing railroads for their Chinese overlords.

Afterwards, the Sino-Canuck alliance will set their eyes on Europe (especially France after quelling a bloody uprising in Quebec) and parachute vast legions of Grizzly Pandas over London, Paris and Berlin (because other countries aren’t really important) and quickly gain control after executing the Queen of England and the Conservative Govenment. They set rabid English football hooligans loose on the French and Germans with a promise of a bottle of Stella Artois for every one killed, which quickly turns to genocide and sees not only France and Germany, but also Belgium and Holland wiped off the map because, “they sounded a bit krautish/froggish innit”. Luxembourg survived somehow.

The rest of Europe (except Italy, which was nuked to prevent them trying to switch sides every 2 weeks in the case of a world war) quickly made peace deals with the Chinadian Empire, all except the Scottish government, who were already in league with the Chinese from long before these events after they had assassinated Mel Gibson and restored Scottish pride, that and the Chinese sure love our whisky, so in a throwback to the Victorian era the Scots took their place as merchants of the empire and were always sought after for drunken parties and other such debauchery.

THEN JR WAS IN THE SHOWER ALL ALONG, WTF?!

What rights did Obama remove?

Who knows? I don’t think anyone read the bill. This is the second time they dropped some 2,000 page bill at people’s feet and gave them a couple days to vote for or against. Hell, this time, I don’t even think they had THAT. Just what Obama called “an outline”. The first draft gave the government to right to view and yank funds from your bank accounts to pay for treatment without consent…I think that’s a little invasive. Might still be in there, with some new stuff.

He picked up where bush left off.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:s.00773:

All in the name of “security”. Sounds familiar.

That is rather fishy, but a still in the works bill does not equate to something Obama has done, and it wasn’t on his agenda.

turn the fox news off and walk slowly away from the television…

ps GOP are losing their minds right now. Who needs Springer when you got HCR debate?

The only problems I see are the right-wing Super-Con Republicans like Palin, Beck and Limbaugh spouting ridiculous rumors and constant scare tactics to brainwash their listeners into brainless subjects of anger.

And fuck everyone @ FOX News.

On the other side, things aren’t going so well for the Big-O right now. I’m starting to wonder if the job was too big for him?

Guys, it’s going to be ok.

In 2012, our Lord and Saviour, Mitt Romney, will come to deliver us to a new era of peace and prosperity. Thank you, Mitt.

i like how they threw in a complete government takeover of higher education in the bill at the last minute too

and how they took out all the expensive things to get the cbo score better and plan to put it back in later

change i can believe in IMO

sucks for us successful people i guess, just gives me less motivation to work. i will probably end up firing a couple of my employees and just living cheap until taxes come down. i’m already on a 50/50 split with the government and now they want more, pretty ridiculous.

maybe go back to hustling, shout out to everyone who has ever hustled in their life

you act like someone on the left never says anything racist or offensive to a party member of the other side

both sides have racist idiots in them

You act like someone that takes anything Gorath says as something worth responding to. That simply wastes bandwidth and encourages him to post more.

wat gorath is the man

face it government in general is bad, disband the government, stockpile guns, and lets do this

ruby ridge never forget

I don’t know. Sometimes he posts shit that pretty right on.

http://www.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=228411&p=8570765&viewfull=1#post8570765