So...how come none of the King of Fighters games are at EVO/major tournaments, etc.?

When it comes down to it. It’s not graphics, I mean SNK has Garou. Not excelent, but decent.

Gameplay is well balanced. What can u say about MvC2.

The truth is that ther eisn’t enought support. Now if SNK Neo Geo USA Consumer (i know it’s a long name) would somehow sponsor the tournament then maybe.

BTW. it’s only one fighter per year. (the kof’s) any other kof without a year on it, is another game. Hence 94 rebout, Maximum Impact, and Neowave aren’t really considered continuities, just extensions. Capcom has done it in thepast when they released SF3, and Darkstalkers in the same year if I’m nota mistaken.

There are way more SNK fans out there, just not in the states… Since Evo takes place in the US either we’ll have to wait for KoF to become more popular, or somethign else.

Point is that EVo has never held exhibiton matches for any SNk games so they igonor the games has they done to A3. Plus what kind of fuck up logic is that because no one plays it hell even Justin WOng play 2k3 has the rest of the world is. The reason why firceslash tourney could have more than 20 people per tourney is that people didn’t know or they lacked money. Plus the mayority of amercians play KOF like if it where a ST game and the samething happen with #R. If they did a line up showing up any SNK game I bet a lot of people will show even if the mayority aren’t americans.

Honestly, I think KOF competitively is mostly played in Kaillera. :slight_smile:

KOF games do require positioning, depending on the matchup- for example, with shermie, I always want to keep myself out of sweep range.

As for 2k3, I do think it got a raw deal, Duo Lon is the best character by himself, but I saw him as more SS2 Ukyo then ST Akuma (as in, some chars can fight him evenly or at slight disadvantage, whereas ST Akuma owns everybody for free almost)

The other real problem is that 98 is the ST of KOF, no KOF has matched 98’s quality in 5-6 years- some would debate that 2k2 is better, but I disagree with them- which I guess makes it the Capcom equivalent of 3S.

Still, there is quality out there in the Kaillera playerbase, but most of those don’t wish to travel- KOF will always have a regional not a national following. Hell, when I was stationed at CA, I never saw anyone good at KOF on the Sunnyvale machines.

This goes to show you that only few play KOF 2k3 competitively. Duo Lon can own a whole team by himself. I don’t know why you people keep saying that EVO should have KOF 2k3, I would rather let them use KOF Neowave, or KOF 2k2… or for nostalgia’s sake KOF 98.

But I like Fatal Fury games more than KOF anyway.

Also, UNCAUZI HELD A PURE SNK TOURNAMENT at Evolution AND IT DIDN’T DO WELL. Where were the players that keeps saying that they would go to SNK tourneys?

^ The “players” were too busy crying on the forums to add KOF at evo, only to have noone show up for Uncauzi’s tournament. Bitches. And then ppl cry on the forums asking the Cannons to spend their time and money to actually run a kof tourney - even though there’s never actually been evidence of of a supposed scene (with players that travel, mind you…) get the fuck out of here with that shit. Seriously, all the ppl requesting KOF at evo should STFU, or go run tourneys of their own…At least SSBM (regardless of all the controversy about adding it;) would have at least brought a different competitive scene aside from Namco/Capcom; and theyre known to travel and at least have some kind of scene.

tsubame, I’m sorry to say, no KOF high level comp is played on Kaillera, and you’ve gotta be naive to think that most of the competitive ppl play on there, to put it nicely.

Kaneda: Just saw some Carol vids of AOF2 Geese, he’s definetely good at keeping the pressure on due to those meaty attacks, his slide is hella good too, hehe. And his throw seems very fast, or hard to tech at least? KOF has easy techs for the most part and yet Geese was getting so many throws in.

If they made his deadly rave unblockable like CPU Geese then I would quit playing this game. :stuck_out_tongue:

Kaillera = random super, macros, nasty lag, people coming into your game…basically crap.

BTW just for thos people that be sayins that people don’t do any tourney me and friend of mine have hold 2 tournies the funny thing is that the SNK games are the ones that are always full. Plus we are going out ther giving exhibiton matches so people can see that this games can be played at high levels.

Yup, He’s a dirty fuck, I told ya. XD His throw is just hard to tech, because you hardly expect it. It may also be because of how soon you leave your feet too…

I love how C Reppuken beats EVERYTHING.

And be glad Raising Storm is so stupid hard to get off. =p

So yep, too many whiners and fanboys, not enough rep/comp. Fair enough explanation, and the sad truth. ;_;

How many people from Puerto Rico would travel to Evo to play all 20 people who MIGHT show up to play an SNK game? Now honestly, I do think that if SRK officially made a KOF tourney it would have a larger turnout than my little tourney HOWEVER it’s still a gamble. A gamble that’s really not worth their time.

The SRK staff said they’d follow my progress with bringing out the competitive SNK peeps. So they are not turning a blind eye. Since then however I’ve had little success organizing anything SNK wise especially on the EC. That being said, getting people on the EC to travel to play SNK games in Cali when they won’t travel to play an hour or two hours away? Lol.

Shit I can’t even get other people to help work on my competitive SNK website. I’ve decided that noone wants
to spend their time on SNK shit. Including me really…
I’m down to help out still but it’s just a side thing now.
SNK peeps spoke loudly when only like 40 percent of the signups
showed at the Revolution tourney. I had more people at the OD (30 peeps) tourney than the Revolution @ Evolution.

No my man kof was made in 1991 like street fighter was only it was called fatal fury but the subtitle was king of fighters. SO that was the first kof tournament ever. Then they made 2 which was also considered a kof tournament. Then in 1994 they stop having fatal fury for kof tournaments and pulled a every charcter they made from they company thing. (at the time) Then people just started to get the game the only reason it wasn’t fun to americans was that it was just too much of non edting in the first one that what turned alot of people off. you had to use the same team cause you couldn’t edit no one. Now to me I think kof and the first kof which was fatal fury deserve credit. Fatal Fury was probally the first and only game to allow you to gang up with a 2player on the computer, plus it had a story to go with it MIni games that SF never had in it’s series. The only reason KOF is not as poplular as people want it to be, was that they only had it for the mvs or aes systems. NO ONE COULD AFFORD THAT AT ALL. So that’s why people who do play kof use kaillera and get them through piracy i’m not saying everyone but face it. They can’t afford the money, I mean it’s understandable for them. With the music pirates though they can’t play it without owning. Well they still brake the rule and get it like they do with music and your not going to change them doing that it’s just the way they man. Point though the only way kof is going to get better is if they put kof neo wave on a consle for xbox or Ps2 and make them BOTH online playable. Also they need to RELEASSE 2k2/2k3 pack with online play, Have it for xbox also. Either way it’s all on advertising alot and To have it for cheap consles instead of rich and exspensive ones like neo-geo that’s why snk’s company went out of bussiness in 01. They kept on making there games exspensive and not releasing them for mutiple consles. That’s all i got to say about this shit I’m out ya dig.

I followed KOF since way back in the days…and i still play them. Samething with Samurai showdown…both games are awesome, they just get overshadowed by SF and also the fact that pulling off moves in most SNK games are somewhat more a challenge than some of SF moves. if you don’t believe me look at SVC,CVS and SVC Chaos…look at he move lists it’s like you need four hands to pull off some of the moves. Plus there timing is exact…not like street fighter with a little leway.

eh it’s not the movements it’s all about…
Graphics, Gameplay, Availability, and Competition.

SF was the first fighter to really take off here. SNK although an alternative didn’t offer enough to pull people away from SF. Add the fact that the graphics are very pixelated looking and well lets face facts, Americans don’t give a shit about characters clothing generally. Add the lack of available good machines. (Those Red and white cabinets = shit) and no competition…what do you expect?

most of you haters are just retarded losers, you guys worry so much about whos low tier and whos not, what the fuck when did people start caring whos broken and not, shesh,

all of you assholes that complain about doulons infinite dont even know shit about the game cause you probably heard that hes got an infinite and didnt even want to play kof2003 for the first time cause of 1 character.

Care to tell me why you dont complain about all the bullshit in MvC2. :confused:

If you truly a good player then you can consistently play with any character for you are a good player, you losers worry too much about tiers. forget that shit already and play the fucking game. :xeye:

well USA people will always be fanboys and will never know what the fuck is going on with kof,

As for the rest of the world and me: We do undestand what makes a good game. most of you losers dont. you just worry about tiers. :tdown:

MEXICO owns usa SNK and CAPCOM fanboys for free, if ya want proof come get some PUTOS!!! :badboy:

and for crying outloud FUCKING forget about tiers and shit already its pointless and so is this thread, o and as usuall some moron who thinks hes better than me and just has to have the last word will reply to this quickly, well be my guess ill be the better man and walk away. :karate: you just keep worrying about Tiers and rankings. :lame:

…huh?

OK, if Fatal Fury turned into KOF why were FF3 and MOTW released after KOF was being made? That’s rhetorical, cause FF is different from KOF. KOF is SNK’s dream match game, Fatal Fury+AOF+whoever else they want to put in, that’s how its always been.

oh god, shut the fuck up already. If I was a mod I’d ban your ass just for being a retard.

Liquid Twilight:Action, not talk, is the key. Good luck with your efforts though.

Kaneda, Geese should have Mai’s D throw, that fucker… :stuck_out_tongue:

Funniest thing in NyC there’s mad fobs that play KOF do they ever organize anything?

OMFG i am so scared of you, dude you know your a fanboy and all you do is worry about TIERS and Framedata and SHIT rather that be playing people for fun and practicing to get better, you know this is true thats why that comment got to you, :clap:

WELL like i said they dont organize stuff cause ALL of the people that live in USA and play KOF or SNK games are fanboys simple as that :encore:

PS: your not a mod, although am thinking that you hope you were one. :devil: and your just mad cuase i said the thruth.

BRING IT CABRON!

hmm where is kof played more then france, uk, usa, or japan,

never really knew that mexico play kof wow thats cool

i myself dont really know much about evolution so i cant have a say here at all :frowning: