"so GAMME is not happening! Now what?" tourney discussion thread

Lol. Although I don’t agree with what has happened to this tournament u should never wish ill will on anyone. That’s as low as a scumbag can get. Everyone is pissed but never ever say shit like that to someone who is sick. Like they say, what goes around comes around. If u get sick like that remember where it came from

This is meant for gamelawya not u bisonoplis because I do fear the wrath of the psycocrusher.

thats what this whole thread was for. It was to discuss a Plan B in case GAMME fell through. Dark Geese was in the middle of something, but then the thread got derailed by mudslinging w/o getting a clear, concise answer to any of the THREE main questions.

Yeah. The mudslingings really derailed this thread and the fact that Daigo has said he hasn’t gotten a ticket and has no plans on going to GAMME doesn’t bode well since if Daigo doesn’t have a ticket yet it’s doubtful that any of the other top Japanese players have gotten tickets either. Manny really needs to tell us what is going on otherwise we’re all going to just move on from this.

My contact for the most part to Daigo was Issei Suzuki, and I had no other emails from him telling me that Daigo could not make it. I have not purchased the flights, I said that already I was waiting to book them all together because we work with tour operators and its cheaper that way. Here are the last emails I got from Issei:

-----Original message-----
From: Manny Camacho <manny.camacho@gpxgaming.net>
To: ??? Issei Suzuki <issei0311@gmail.com>
Sent: Wed, April 20, 2010 01:06 GMT+00:00
Subject: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Player Profiles

Issei,

sorry I was not able to meet with you in Japan, the Event I was working with ended up not getting Gackt so I stayed in the US on my tour. let me know when the last of the players in verified and I can buy their tickets and get their pictures and images promoted. Thanks I appreciate all your help.

Manny

-----Original message-----
From: ??? Issei Suzuki <issei0311@gmail.com>
To: Manny Camacho <manny.camacho@gpxgaming.net>
Sent: Wed, March 18, 2010 15:13 GMT+00:00
Subject: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Player Profile

Hi Manny
New update about the last player.
Iyo wasn’t available either so Daigo recommended Bon chan,a sagat player whom daigo thinks the best right now.

iPhone???

On 2010/3/18, at 7:42, “Manny Camacho”<manny.camacho@gpxgaming.net> wrote:
Ok perfect I’ll let you know our meeting with Avex and Sony keeps getting pushed back. And Iyo would be great Itabashi would still be fantastic.

Connected by MOTOBLUR? on T-Mobile

-----Original message-----
From: ??? Issei Suzuki <issei0311@gmail.com>
To: Manny Camacho <manny.camacho@gpxgaming.net>
Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 19:11:07 GMT+00:00
Subject: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Player Profiles
Okay
Lets meet up when you come
By the way i’m not sure about the iron Man rule.
Also Itabashi might not make it what about Iyo?

iPhone???

On 2010/03/17, at 9:12, “Manny Camacho” <manny.camacho@gpxgaming.net> wrote:
Issei ?San,

I will be in Japan around the 20-21st of Janauary to work on items for the show I will be coming by Gods Garden at some point, perhaps we can arrange a meet with you and many of the players if they like. Please let me know if this is possible, I am working on a Gackt Contract for another event I work with so I will be there for a few days.

Arigatou!

Regards,

Manny Camacho

From: ??? [mailto:issei0311@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 12:02 AM
To: Manny Camacho
Subject: [SPAM] Re: Player Profiles

Hi Manny,

Happy New Year! Wish you the best this year.
Im very sorry to start with bad news but Daigo told me that Nemo cannot make it due to his schedule.
Let me know if you want anyone else. I will check.
Also, I heard from my friends that Japanese players cannot enter other tournaments except SF4. Is that true?

2009?12?16?2:04 ??? <issei0311@gmail.com>:
Hi Manny,

I’m doing good.

So far, I got the legal names(Last,First) of

Momochi - Momochi Yusuke
Mago - Im Hyeonhyeong
Nuki - Onuki Shinya

Also, fortunately I will be able to go so please count me too. and Gosho cannot come(he is not playing).

Nemo, I’m still waiting for the reply from Daigo about him.

About the Youtube video, I will go back to Japan this Dec 27th so after that I’ll get a clip from Nuki, Mago, and Daigo. Momochi lives far away from Tokyo so I will figure out some other way to get a video from him.
Everyone including me, is excited to join your event !

Issei

2009?12?13?17:06 Manny Camacho <manny.camacho@gpxgaming.net>:

Evening Issei,

How are you, hope all is well,

I would like to get videos of each player or all together, saying hello to the players and the fans down here in Orlando. I would like to get this ready to post all over our sites. Please feel free to post it to youtube.com and then give me the link so I can post it on all of our social networks and websites.

Also, any word on Nemo? I also still need everyones legal names for me to purchase flights together I get a group discount if all done at once:

Issei Suzuki (I know you may not make it)
Daigo Umehara
Mago
Momochi
Gosho
Nuki
Nemo???

Thank you

:::End string of messages:::

if he is not planning on coming, like Seth has stated, then that is a shame, but that was not why we started this event, it was a perk and the 5v5 was a suggestion given to me that I said in October we could do.

I will still be in MWC and after that I am going to reschedule this convention and move it into more of an anime genre.

I won’t post all the emails from the MLG side of this issue because it involved MLG and that is inappropriate to post because I do not want to cause anyone harm or put myself at risk.

I had said multiple times I wanted to see if after I posted why things were or happened the way they happened to see if a lot of the folks that backed out of the event wanted to return. I have a lot of people saying if you just say this they will come back.

I don’t do things that way, I am looking at what makes sense at this point.

there is too much against us at this moment and the damage has been done which has affected a lot of the attendance on the gaming side which was the focus of the event.

So I am just going to spare you the wait and cancel the event. I am sorry it came to this. there are people here who have nothing to do with this and only created an SRK account probably at the request of someone else to add to the fire. It is unfortunate that this board has done this. I have seen threads go with issues for months before someone posted, issues with people like Dancing Fighter G where they had events listed and the troubles and issues he went through and no one invaded his thread and made a post on the top of it and list it on someone elses thread. yet somehow it was justified to be done on our event. I wonder why that is.

EDIT: I never used my sickness as an excuse, Big Eric is someone that can tell you, Sanford Kelly can tell you…I kept that to myself for the most part…I pulled John Gallagher aside in winterbrawl so did IloveyouJoe…they knew…yet I never made an excuse, I kept working…only reason you guys know now is because you wondered where I was this past weekend…none of my guys are all over this forum, I am and there was no need for them to be all over this forum, as of Friday I had posted I will be getting the information needed between me and MLG. you guys blew this out of proportion - you guys is a loose term.

I won’t be posting here anymore about this topic. Or about this issue. I appreciate the many of you that came to our aid and spoke up, it was unfortunate I was unavailable this weekend handling my health conditions. It was unfortunate I had people working at other events in other communities that were not aware of this particular explosion of events and we are then caught on the reactionary and it is unfortunate people jump at the chance to tear something down. for those of you that build your own events, it can happen to you, how quickly will things turn on you when you make an honest mistake.

for those of you that support us, we build a ton of events every year, this event was going to be great and we will be rebuilding it for the future, we will see you all at another event.

thank you - if any of you had issues with the travel that you planned and need help getting out of it I am more than happy to write or speak to anyone to help you resolve those issues.

Anyone that has questions or issues with refunds feel free to contact me directly or our accounting department they will get you squared away. manny.camacho@gpxgaming.net or accounting@gpxgaming.net

mwc

ryu: I have worked over 20 events a year (not with gpx) and have never been paid, hell most of them we do not even get food XD So kudos to the organizers you have or heard of. (even one of the biggest conventions ACEN: anime central, make you pay 20 bucks to get access to a food room)

((But… I do have to say 1 thing. All of your saying I dont care if he has cancer, fuck him and I hope he dies or anything like that I really hope that karma kicks you in the face one day. ))

Sorry I had to edit, while typing manny responded
Sorry guys for all the trouble and I really hope that something else can go on in Florida that weekend so that everyone is not a total loss. Sorry…

man this thread is fucking hilarious

all this manny dude is doing is deflecting and trying to draw people in to his pity potty

lmao this is great

Seriously.

I spent almost $500 on plane tickets, and now it’s going down the drain. My tickets are non-refundable. All my money has been going towards the hotel and trip and because of that I have been on a strict budget the past couple months. I even canceled going to France for the Cannes World Cup tournament because I was excited about GAMME and all the promises that were made.

If GAMME has thousands of dollars that would have went towards prize money, I think it would be nice to use that money to pay people back to cancel the trip (have people show their itineraries as proof). Otherwise this is a huge slap in the face to everyone that was planning to go out and support GAMME.

No this is SAD!

I take it this is Officially cancelled than. This whole thing reminds me of the Titanic.

The Engineer (Manny) hyping up the Worlds Biggest Unsinkable ship ( GAMME, best event ever)
THousands show up to enjoy the ride ( The Community)
All the Hype built up of it’s massive construction brings Big names to the Boat ( 5v5 Jap vs USA)
Guess what… Folks didn’t know that the Boat was built with poor rivets and steel ( GAMME false Hype, lies)
BIG Iceberg came and the Titanic hit it (MANNY was found to have told a few white lies that split the community and tore GAMME apart)
Titanic Sinks
GAMME OVER as many stated

…all I can hear ppl say now it… Cool story Bro…Cool Story… hanging head low…

S-KILL!!!

Just wanted to make sure this post didn’t get lost in the mire of posts.

i like this one.

says MR.English is my second language…
Keep it real dawg i feel u (pause)

lol

Lets go over the list of “oopsies, I lied hehe jk ^_^” this Manny guy has accumulated.

  1. No Japanese players coming
  2. Complaining of being homesick while traveling, when he’s actually stuffing ones down stripper panties on the road
  3. Falsely accusing MLG of bully tactics
  4. Promising 10,000’s of dollars of bonus pot/sponsorship money

AND THE LIST GOES ON

This is singlehandedly the best troll of the year. I have never seen anyone name drop as much as you. It’s fucking ridiculous.

With your track record of lies, who’s to say you even have cancer? Why even bring it up? Oh right to provide an excuse. I guess we’ll all find out if you really do have cancer if we see GAMME 2011 in the near future. Sorry if you are really diagnosed, but if you’re lying for sympathy you need to get beat the fuck down.

You’re right, most events don’t pay staff. But Manny has promised to pay a lot of people who did work for him (not necessarily during his events) who’ve never seen a dime. That’s not cool.

And I never said “fuck him, I hope he dies.” I’m not that kind of person. I only questioned the legitimacy of the statement itself. Some people will give any excuse to get out of trouble, i.e. the MLG mess.

And so the issue comes to a close. Manny gets to back out under the pretense that support for his event crumbled due to people like me pissing in his punchbowl, and he gets to continue to hide the fact that he never had the money to pay the hotel. I look forward to a repeat of this mess in a few months when he tries again. I hope people aren’t fooled again by his sweet-talking.

Oh, and that bit about him working on a Gackt event made me LOL. I suppose I’ll see him on stage with Basshunter, Ayumi Hamasaki, and Linkin Park at Manny’s next event. ROFL

Let’s not forget:

  • Spending $18,000 on a web site that couldn’t have cost more than $200 to produce
  • Having anonymous sponsors who apparently don’t like recognition to finance all these pot bonuses, etc.
  • Artfully dodging any simple inquiry made about the event
    and many more!

And the worst part is this fucking disgusting crybaby act, talking about people love to tear things down. Yeah, that’s why dozens of tournaments and events, which you can see in this very forum, go off without a hitch. That’s why people get so many volunteers to bring systems, TVs, sticks, etc. to make those things happen. Because everybody’s a hater. Hey, Manny, nobody wanted to tear your event down, you fucking clown. They just wanted some answers, and you refused to give them. Talking about how busy you are, but you have time to tell page long sob stories or to talk somebody else down to make yourself feel better? Basically going out of your way to prove everything your naysayers said right. You fucking pussy. Dicks: either grow one or eat one.

The Smash Bros Got This

Hungrybox is setting up a venue to move the smash tournament to, I don’t see why the SRK community couldn’t tag along too, just might need some TO volunteers

Ive been trying to say this for a while. The only issue is if we get a bigger venue then we may need just a bit more money to get it started, but that money could be paid back via venue fee when the tourney goes down.

Jebailey, Zombie Shoes, are you guys reading this?

Jebailey, Zombie Shoes, are you guys reading this?

If someone could get me details on the Smash forum on where they plan on hosting something I will try to talk to them. Since SF4 came out last year I have been one of the biggest tournament hosts in Orlando. I was planning to help out at GAMME where I could but looks like I can’t do anything about it.

SO in the wake of such events if I can find a venue(Lots of Orlando/Tampa and Miami well known names want to help in a big way) I can try my best to put together some sort of at least a SUPER tournament for those with no other options but to come to Orlando on that weekend. Someone please PM smash info or a way I can get in contact with those guys if possible. Thank you.

I can’t offer all the things that Gamme was supposed to offer, but what I can offer is a smoothly run tournament itself and I know we all could help each other and prove why the community as a whole is one of the best in the world.

I actually got Lasik eye surgery just today and I should be asleep with my eyes closed, but even my passion for the game hasn’t stopped me from wanting to make something out of a negative situation.
Alex Jebailey

Alright, so not to beat a dead horse, but ** it looks as if Manny is officially cancelling at least the fighting portion of the whole thing**. And he might move the anime portion to some other time in the future.

I just wish he would be more concrete about these things instead of talking for pages about nothing. Manny, I’m sorry to hear your plight, and I wish you the best, but you really talk too much about stuff that doesn’t really matter.