So fornicating disapointing capcom has become

[d3v]

I’m not sure if anyone has considered this, but any of the other Dolls whose skills lend themselves to fighting games would have presented a MAJOR balancing problem.

Consider Satsuki (a katana wielder) or Santamu (a spear user). Both would have moves where their weapon would, like Seth or Dhalsim’s limbs, cover more ground that usual. This presents a problem… with Seth and Dhalsim, you can trade hits with their limbs and it makes sense that you would do so. However, where would Satsuki or Santamu’s hurtboxes be during those moves? Would we treat those moves like “projectiles”, where the tip of the weapon is the hitbox, but the rest of it is within the hurtbox? Could you sensibly trade hits with them?

This issue is rather unnoticeable for Vega and Rolento because their weapons don’t add that much more reach. But a spear or a sword would allow for practically every punch to cover approximately 40% or more of the screen distance.

Also, every time Capcom has introduced new characters (in the sense that they’ve at least never been playable in the Street Fighter series), at least one of them has tied into the overall story. Viper and Abel; Juri; and now Decapre. Noembelu also ties into other characters’ stories beyond just being a Doll, but I believe she is actually catatonic as per T. Hawk’s ending. Decapre not only ties into the story as a Doll, but as Cammy’s clone (or with Cammy being her clone), she ties into Cammy’s story, Bison’s story, Juri’s story (possibly), and Chun Li’s story (possibly) solidly.

There’s also the fact that there’s no existing movement data for any weapon based moves.

[Magegg]

You saying they could not replace Kuma with a furry Canadian guy for Street Fighter V? I woulnd’t see a problem with that, just do it.

Wolverine for SFV?

Mmmhhh. Why not? They did a good job with characters like Xaioyu, Lili, Christie, Lei… I’d like their movesets to return for further Street Fighter games.

Consider Satsuki (a katana wielder)

Katanas should never, EVER be featured in any Street Fighter game.

[BisonWarp]

Don’t matter. You guys are still going to buy USF4 like everybody else. Capcom wins. They’ve learned they don’t have to give a shit, because people are still going to put money in their pockets.

Capcom: The Japanese Activision

[TRUEB7UE]

@ the end of the thread title, how about a comma and a sentence saying: capcom felatios nowadays.

What is your native language? Your riddlespeak confounds me.

[Wasted]

I’m not sure if anyone has considered this, but any of the other Dolls whose skills lend themselves to fighting games would have presented a MAJOR balancing problem.

Consider Satsuki (a katana wielder) or Santamu (a spear user). Both would have moves where their weapon would, like Seth or Dhalsim’s limbs, cover more ground that usual. This presents a problem… with Seth and Dhalsim, you can trade hits with their limbs and it makes sense that you would do so. However, where would Satsuki or Santamu’s hurtboxes be during those moves? Would we treat those moves like “projectiles”, where the tip of the weapon is the hitbox, but the rest of it is within the hurtbox? Could you sensibly trade hits with them?

This issue is rather unnoticeable for Vega and Rolento because their weapons don’t add that much more reach. But a spear or a sword would allow for practically every punch to cover approximately 40% or more of the screen distance.

Also, every time Capcom has introduced new characters (in the sense that they’ve at least never been playable in the Street Fighter series), at least one of them has tied into the overall story. Viper and Abel; Juri; and now Decapre. Noembelu also ties into other characters’ stories beyond just being a Doll, but I believe she is actually catatonic as per T. Hawk’s ending. Decapre not only ties into the story as a Doll, but as Cammy’s clone (or with Cammy being her clone), she ties into Cammy’s story, Bison’s story, Juri’s story (possibly), and Chun Li’s story (possibly) solidly.

There’s also the fact that there’s no existing movement data for any weapon based moves.

SFXT Yoshimitsu - recycle some of those animations for a sword wielder and voila you have Satsuki.

For someone like Santamu or Jianyu (staff), count the weapon as part of the character model, place the hit/hurtboxes appropriately, and voila. There are plenty of stances that could have been borrowed from other characters as well, for key frames and such. Fuck, mash all of the Chinese cast together, stick a simple weapon in their hands. It’s that easy, in concept.

[TRUEB7UE]

Edit: please delete this post

[jebop]

Why did you guys mark my post as WTF? I’m serious.

Necro was a innovative and brilliant idea. Blanka and Dhalsim in one.

Almost as innovative as Apple’s iPhone 4 to iPhone 4S.

[YorKeY]

I was gonna make a thread titled " would Infiltration be the best player in the world once again if he mained DeCapre." changed my mind hehe’ felt like trolling. lol

[Essenthy]

pretty sure they cant use Namco characters/models/moveset from SfxT because of legal issues ,despit the fact that capcom did most ( if not all ?) the work on SfxT

[Hawkingbird]

Katanas should never, EVER be featured in any Street Fighter game.

SFxT Yoshimitsu says fuck that.

[jebop]

Let’s face it, on paper, Decapre sounds amazing, but in reality she’s just a carbon copy.
Let’s assess these other brilliant characters.

Ryu = Japanese Fighter
Ken = Ryu with a Kara throw & managed to get laid
Akuma = Emo Ryu
Oni = Emo Ryu on Steroids
Dan = Gay Ryu
Gouken = Emo Ryu’s Old Brother
Sakura = Ryu Wearing Panties
Sagat = Ryu trying to be different
Evil Ryu = Ryu with a fucking problem

[Magegg]

Necro was a innovative and brilliant idea. Blanka and Dhalsim in one.

Necro moveset has practically nothing to do with Dhalsim or Blanka.

pretty sure they cant use Namco characters/models/moveset from SfxT because of legal issues ,despit the fact that capcom did most ( if not all ?) the work on SfxT

Of course they can! Capcom invented the moveset. It’s not like they’re going to reuse the models, since SFV will have a different engine and graphics, of course, only the gamestyle and give the new characters that work just like the ones the Tekken characters had…

Katanas should never, EVER be featured in any Street Fighter game.

SFxT Yoshimitsu says fuck that.

And Hibiki on Capcom vs SNK 2? LOL, man, those were crossover games. Doesn’t count.

I think you would be smarter than that and mention this:

[petran79]

And Hibiki on Capcom vs SNK 2? LOL, man, those were crossover games. Doesn’t count.

thats not a katana, but a shinken

[Will_Diesel]

Sodom literally had the swords he used in his Final Fight debut in Street Fighter Alpha 3.

Please dispense with the silly notion that SF can’t have weapon based characters.

[Magegg]

thats not a katana, but a shinken

Freaking nerd, LOL.

[jebop]

Can’t tell if trolling or, just never mind…

[thiagoeis]

Looking at her as a character (story, design, etc…), I really got pissed. They had since last year’s EVO to do concepts and a decent character model. I wanted Alex back too, but… They also copy/paste the SFxT characters, I didn’t expected great things at the 5th character reveal.
Now, as a fighting game character Decapre is different from Cammy. While watching the match between Ryan and Combofiend, I was slowly changing my mind about the character. She is different from Cammy, as every shoto is different from another.

This recycling situation happened to SF since the second version of the game. One with the 4 bosses, another with Turbo settings and the list goes on until Super Turbo. As a regular player, I don’t like it. As a competitive player I think it’s good because it keeps the competition alive.

[Magegg]

Now, as a fighting game character Decapre is different from Cammy. While watching the match between Ryan and Combofiend, I was slowly changing my mind about the character. She is different from Cammy, as every shoto is different from another.

Yeah, now I have to agree with that, she’s quite different. My only problem with her is that her normals are the same as Cammy’s, if they changed that, she could be completely respectable.

[jebop]

Now, as a fighting game character Decapre is different from Cammy. While watching the match between Ryan and Combofiend, I was slowly changing my mind about the character. She is different from Cammy, as every shoto is different from another.

Yeah, now I have to agree with that, she’s quite different. My only problem with her is that her normals are the same as Cammy’s, if they changed that, she could be completely respectable.

They’re not the same ffs. One leads into a target combo!

[thiagoeis]

Yeah, now I have to agree with that, she’s quite different. My only problem with her is that her normals are the same as Cammy’s, if they changed that, she could be completely respectable.

Yup. They were pretty lazy to not change her normals.