Smash Brothers - winning formula no one uses?

Jesus this is still open?

So…what was this thread about again?

I was saying this a week ago to my homeboy. Now he’s starting to play it. I don’t really like Brawl as much as Melee but everyone is playing. And you get paid more than other fighters for playing it. This shit is a fucking steal.

Get That Deniro.

No fireball motion. Name a fighting game that doesnt have a charge motion/fireball motion/Or even the broken PR Hold a button motion.

I got no beef with brawl, I just suck at it…and it kinda pisses me off when I go to a mainstream tourney and they promise me there’ll be a fighting game…and it’s fucking brawl and ONLY Brawl. Meanwhile they run CoD4, Halo 3 and GoW at the same fucking time. Every goddamn time!! Sure I could learn brawl, but then I’d still be doing reluctantly and probably not have that much fun playing it…even if it would end up being easy money.

And as much as I hate to admit it, EVERYONE fucking plays this game. It’s like the game to have even if you don’t play SF, GG, CvS etc. I can go to any party and this game’ll be in the wii library, and there’ll be at least 3 or 4 random motherfuckers I don’t even know that’ll play hardcore. Compared to Guilty Gear that’s fucking insane.

As far as labeling it a fight game, personally I don’t see a problem with it…it’s a bit unconventional and those of us who’ve been playing the classics for so long may thumb our noses and scratch our butts at it…however it’s got something and it’s been doing it right since the N64 era. Accessibility, characters everyone likes, 4 player madness…and a competitive scene…it’s a very flexible game when you look at it that way. I just wouldn’t have replaced any of the classics with it, but some people have been lately…s’pissin me off.

street fighter copied smash

Everyone remember this and the shitstorm it caused? [media=youtube]hE_u7TbUxM8"[/media] I can’t help but be reminded of that video after reading this thread. I bet since the guy who made the video said Smash evolved the fighting genre has ended up feeding the amount of hate Smash gets.

I guess I have to repeat myself from earlier. People will get mad when “scrubs” or those who have never played fighting games say they are nothing but throwing fireballs, mindless button-mashing, waste of money, have bare bones features, or force you to learn combos no one cares about.

These people will counter by saying there is a ton of strategy in fighting games, comparable to RTSs or even chess. They will use points such as zoning, mixups, character matchups, system mechanics, and that the player + character will create unique playstyles. Normally these people have had played the game for a lengthy period of time, have played against human competition and generally know the game inside out, which would give them credibility over those who haven’t played fighting games for longer than 10 minutes at a time.

So why am I left wondering if the people writing negative comments about Smash saying it isn’t a fighting game, doesn’t compare to other fighters, etc if they’ve even played Smash for more than 10 minutes if at all? Are these the same people who will defend games like ST, MvC2, GG, Tekken from those who don’t know better but at the same time attack a game when they themselves don’t fully understand its mechanics, characters, and the strategy involved?

Monte’s post explains high-level Smash pretty well. http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=5136925&postcount=71

Let me just say this. If you’ve never played Smash for an extended period of time, been involved in its metagame or played against top players but will attack the game saying it has no depth, is for kids, is not a fighting game then you are no different than people like GoldenWoozie (the guy who made the above Youtube video.)

Note: I am aware of the level of idiocy on Smashboards but any game that is popular will no doubt attract its share of morons. Just look at the SF4 forum here as another example. So instead of citing that site, just read Monte’s post and understand that this game can have just as much depth to it as any traditional fighter.

No one said it couldnt. But calling a fighting game is stupid, And putting it up on the ranks of streetfighter is even worse.

This man speaks the truth.

Everyone knows smash is not nowhere near traditional Fighting games. Nintendo fanboys can cry out there tears for days,real OG players will never giver up their traditional FG, or even think twice about compare kiddy games like smash to OG fighters. Sorry.

plus smash junkies cant even be taken seriously. :rofl: pokemon master. Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit.

street fighter is fireball spamming garbage

play a real game with some mindgames yeah wavedashing son

Yea sure, I’ll play tekken.

pff DOA beats tekken any day of the week

got them titties

If the was a smash arcade machine next to a Sf machine,

older players will rock the SF machine :rock:

,little kids will be playing smash as the parents watch and hand them more tokkens.:rofl:

i’m sure some idiot somewhere has a totally sweet Wii => JAMMA setup

hmm, moonwalking with falcon and link is a reverse fireball motion actually. Thats gotta be one of the worst excuses to try and say smash isn’t a fighting game anyways.

Official move lists, Not some fuckin tactic. Its not an excuse, Its a fact. Thats like saying cvs2’s EO mode can be used at evo because smash uses the same shit.
kmasera:Lol you just lost all credibility.

Uhm… how does that make smash bros not a fighting game? >_>

in soviet russia, brothers smash you!

it’s pointless to argue whether smash is a fighting game or not when nobody’s going to change their opinion. it’s the perfect internet argument; it goes nowhere.

as for the actual thread topic…i’d try any smash-style game, and i think capcom or whatever making one wouldn’t be so bad. but they wouldn’t have to. everyone needs to be looser (heh. loose.) about what they accept as worthy of playing. and respek opinions.

or maybe fuck all that shit and be a troll.

In my opinion, smash bros fall’s under it’s own unique genre. It’s not a fighting game in the traditional sense but it still employs similar enough concepts that it’s rewarding in the competitve sense. Now brawl might have reversed this progression but Melee was a very valid competitve game, so I suppose in awnser to the thread maker I do believe more games should develop around Melee’s engine.

Smash is a “beat em up” which is what every other “fighter” is classified as. Nothing more nothing less really. Your goal is to beat the hell out of the other guy, and that’s what made SF2 so fun.