Smartest People in Comics

Haha, IMAGINAUTS - Mark Waid, you crazy.

Classless, and completely unnecessary. Absolutely no reason to bring my mother’s lack of genius into this. I’m reporting you to sano.

Regardless, the reason (true or not) Peter Parker’s not a genius is irrelevant when we’re just talking about whether or not he’s a genius. Doesn’t really matter why he’s a big dummy, just that he is. Because then we can start talking about all the poor intercity kids that are denied a proper education system as children and how they maybe possibly could have grown up to be the king of Wakanda or some crazy shit.

But as it is, you either slingin’ crack rocks or you got a wicked jumpshot - ain’t no other way out the ghetto.

EDIT: This is awesome because I posted this before I saw Shengy accusing maxx of trying to sneakily draft Spidey under the table for the blacks. So that’s why there’s so much talk about “The Man” holding him down. This is collusion!

Is that even the correct usage of the word collusion? I don’t even care! COLLUSION!!!

Lol all I’m doing is repping who I can this is discussion is teh awesome! So you’re not watching Boondocks Carpet Lint? THANK YOU FOR NOT SNITCHING! :looney:

I hope the irony is not lost on you that you are making fun of what you view to be my poor grasp of irony, in spite of the fact that my statement, in itself, was ironic. Maybe you would have gotten it if you weren’t too busy taking everything way too seriously, including yourself.

It’s just recently that Reed patented his inventions. Before Reed was stockpiling his inventions. Warren Ellis even made it into an issue by parodying the fantastic four in his Planetary comics. The Four there didn’t share the inventions they made to the world.

His Iron man armor didn’t affect the world. Reed has inventions that could even be great(but he used to just keep it to himself), even if you read the various sources… It was very recent when he gave some of his inventions to the world.

I can give you that one, Spiderman is dumb businesswise. Tony Stark is smart in both fields. Reed is also dumb at making money.

If you want to talk about holding black people down, I’ve got one name for you: Reed Richards. What, you thought crack invented itself? It was the seventies. There was a diesel negro running around in tights, a 12 inch afro, and a tiara. Lets not forget he was strong enough to tear a liquor store in half for a case of O.E., and when shot, have his skin go all Kal-El on the bullets. What was he after? His arrogant moniker made it clear: Power, Man! The government couldn’t leave him running around unchecked. Reed Richards was more than up for the task. In exchange for large, undisclosed sums of money, Reed Richards would create population control measures cor the government. Reed Richards invented crack, A.I.D.S. (But oddly enough, not H.I.V., the virus that causes A.I.D.S.) and Linkin Park.

as i go through this thread alot of spidey hate :lol: all i care about that bp is one of the top guys in marvel.

you cant be serious right? But then again he had a villian named cottonmouth (look up black heroes thread for info) i’ll need to update it soon.

Joins the spidey is smart but not a genius side, If he was a genius Beast would ask for his opinion in ES right? i he mean was consulting with the greatest minds and evil minds in the world

I’m not sure if you’ve read the recent Mighty Avengers… but Tony Stark invented satellites that can control the weather. The program is only at phase 2 and hasn’t been brought to the United Nations for approval… but if sucessful, could stop starvation on a global scale.

Definitely something that would affect the world.

That’s not true. How do you think they made all that money? Patents and merchandising. The Baxter Building, the Four Freedoms Plaza - the good people of New York didn’t just give those to the FF for free.

That’s Planetary. We’re talking Fantastic Four. Otherwise, I should be able to say that Superman is the leader of a child pornography ring because I’ve read Top Ten.

That isn’t true, either. The Iron Man changed the world’s perception of a superhero. It wasn’t just about gaining powers via random radiation - (SMART) people could use technology to build things that would help them fight megalomaniacal supervillains and giant Chinese alien dragons named Fin Fang Foom.

The Iron Man armor tech is the most sophisticated weapon ever developed by mankind. You don’t think developing new and improved, hi-tech weapons can change the world? Even if we aren’t talking just about the armor, Stark Industries was built on weapon making. Landmines, bombs, rifles, all sorts of dangerous stuff.

Iron Man tech has even been used to affect other fields other than warfare. For example, the repulsor ray technology was used as a way to launch space shuttles.

And Clinty already mentioned how powerful people are always trying to steal Iron Man blueprints and stuff. I’ve never seen anyone try to steal Spidey’s web-shooters to launch a deadly plan of mass destruction.

Then there’s groups like SHIELD and the people who run the Vault - their agents and guards rely on Stark technology. The worldwide peacekeeping organization needs Stark tech. I’m pretty sure there have also been comics where Nick Fury mentions that Reed built something in the Helicarrier, too.

And while we’re at it, even Hank Pym’s used his Pym Particles to create a miniaturized, hi-security supervillain prison with miniaturized supervillains living under armed watch in there. The best Spider-Man can do is wrap up a normal mugger in some webs (which dissolve in an hour) and tie him to a lamp post until the cops get there.

Now how can you say that Tony Stark’s work doesn’t affect the world?

What are these alleged sources - wikipedia? People like SHIELD use Reed’s inventions. Just reading Mark Waid’s run, I think it’s pretty clear that you can infer that people in the Marvel Universe use things Reed invents. Sure, there’s lots of stuff he keeps to himself. But that’s only because he makes so much stuff in the first place, and he’s so smart that most of his inventions are afterthoughts anyway.

Spider-Man has his Spider-Signal - useful for striking fear into the hearts and souls of criminals, who are known to be a cowardly and superstitious lot. That’s about it.

From reading Fantastic Four comics, I’ve realized that Reed is not dumb at making money. They are not in want of money. Even when they pretty much lost it all, Reed still came up with a way to recover their fortune in spades. Reed is also a genius in terms of how to market his family to the public.

Spider-Man, however, did make some amazing advertisements where he used those tasty Hostess fruit pies to defeat the Green Goblin - I’ll give you that one for free.

Since I did this for level 7 (omniscient), and level 6 (super-genius), I figure I’d go one more round and do Level 5 (genius):
Here’s the people who achieved a level 5 intellect (Genius) in the MARvel Encyclopedias volumes 1-6:

Black Panther, Red Skull, Temugin, Doctor Octopus, Lizard, Beast, Prof X, Magneto, Forge, Sasquatch, brainchild, vivisector, Apocalypse, Arcade, Onslaught, Mojo, Stryfe, Carrion, Dormammu, Graviton, dr. jonas harrow, Lightmaster, Mister Hyde, Morbius, Ollie Osnick, professor power, red skull II, alistair smythe, spencer smythe, spot, mendel stromm, stegron, tinkerer, dr. carolyn trainer, dr. seward trainer, lord dark wind, Starr Saxon, doctor sun, deacon frost, Ahab, crucible, Diablo, Futurist, Hyperstorm, Janus the nega-man, Ricardo Jones, mad thinker, Maximus, Messiah, over-mind, professor jack, Radion the atomic man, Sentry, Wizard, Wrecker (kort), zarko the tomorrow man,

lol at this list of geniuses. i always thought of doc oct smarter than the lizard. didnt know morbius was a genius…just wikied him. only knew his character through the cartoon. somehow i thought wit the phsyce’s of both prof.x and magneto it would automatically up onslaught to super genius status. lol@ half this list getting their ass kicked by spider-man…some on the daily.

WAIT! wtf? how is carrion a genius…fucker was a decaying clone who…well bit the dust. actually which carrion are they referring to?

lol…why do i get the feeling their are no black super geniuses?

Spider-man may have beat a lot of the guys on the list… but it doesn’t make him smarter. The smarter guy doesn’t ALWAYS win. Otherwise all the level 7 guys would be unbeatable… which we know they aren’t.

These guys are geniuses. Spider-Man is only gifted in intelligence, but in combination with his powers, it helps him to overcome a lot of people that are smarter than him.

he also knows when he needs help like when he started to take on Carnage he knew he couldnt beat Carnage by him self. Theres a lot of characters in comics that are just to arrgont to ask for help.

Last time I checked Black Panther was African-American and he’s pretty smart. Mr Terrific in DC Comics is the “third smartest person in the world” which isn’t too shabby. He also happens to be African-American.

Where there’s no smoke, there’s no fire.

Reed Richards didn’t invent Linkin Park - they are beyond science, and Reed doesn’t understand the principles of dark magic.

Haha, the encyclopedia lists the Sentry as a genius. Worst character ever. He’s been back like…for two years now, post-Jenkins? Two years, all these appearances in various issues where Marvel tries to cram him down our throats, and still no one has any idea what his powers are and what he can do. Marvel just arbitrarily says he’s got the power of “a thousand exploding suns” - whatever the fuck that means - and that just gives them an excuse to use him as some giant walking/flying plot device. Lazyass storytelling - that’s the Marvel way.

black panthers only listed as a genius, i was more referring to marvel…always keeping the black man down. lol.

And he’s got an ugly costume too :bgrin:

haha i noticed him too…i was like wtf makes him a genius? just cuz he’s old? i didn’t know exploding suns had intelligence. Well super genius got owned by fucking mastermind. that should be like a requirement to drop u a couple of levels in the intelligence department.

Well to be fair Marvel does give people of African decent a lot of firsts.

The first Captain America was African American - See The Truth.

The first Spider-Man, looong ago was African and had organic webshooters too. See JMS’ run and the African Spider-Man even had his own story in Spider-Man Fairy Tales issue # 2.

The first Mutant ever, Apocalypse is Egyptian, also of African decent.

So there is that…

Retcons 50 years later don’t count.

I prefered it the first time I saw it on Buffy: The Vampire Slayer.