SJC Help!

[System_1]

I kind of think it is essential because the only other option I would have of landing the ultra would be out of a focus crumple. There are a lot of good SF4 players out there and with me being not very good, I need all the help I can get.

[xMarauderx]

Are there any PS3 controller users out there pulling off SJCs (mainly into U2) consistently?

[USf]

^Glad to see you’re improving.

Sorry I wasn’t on tonight. I had a long session with a friend that left me winded mentally. I’ll be on tomorrow (or today rather since it’s 1:30 am). I did the SJC cancel in a real match a few times myself but I’m still not consistent. I can’t count the number of times I would have won if i did it a little slower and gotten the ultra instead of DP+K.

Yeah man no worries. We’ll play some games soon, I might make it tonight for like 30 minutes tops, but tomorrow I should definitely be on at night.

[toddler316]

Anyone else find this video really really helpful for getting the motions and timing down through shortcuts to start out with?

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Around the 8:40ish mark.

[crapface]

I’ve gotten pretty good results now with lpmphp SJC U2. It’s all about when you hit the KKK. I try to time it just as the HP is coming out. The QCuFx2 really isn’t the problem. It’s when you push the KKK. I can get it pretty consistently now from both sides. At least in training mode. I still have a long way to go to get any good with Ibuki…

[ibrahimo]

I’ve gotten pretty good results now with lpmphp SJC U2. It’s all about when you hit the KKK. I try to time it just as the HP is coming out. The QCuFx2 really isn’t the problem. It’s when you push the KKK. I can get it pretty consistently now from both sides. At least in training mode. I still have a long way to go to get any good with Ibuki…

When do you start the motion QCuFx2? After or before you press hp?

[MingoDynasty]

Are there any PS3 controller users out there pulling off SJCs (mainly into U2) consistently?

If by “consistently” you mean at least 50% then yeah me lol. But then again I haven’t really practiced it that much.

[crapface]

When do you start the motion QCuFx2? After or before you press hp?

Before or during. I’m not really sure. But I don’t really do it that fast so I’m definitely NOT starting the motions after I press HP. You don’t have to do the motion that fast. I think I start the QCF when I press mp. Like I said, it’s all about when you press KKK.

[amigdala]

Here’s my 2 cents on the SJC into ultra.
You have to understand what’s going on in the move to fully be able to consistently pull it off. I get it now and all I have to do is work on timing.

Here’s what I’m currently practicing. I’m starting small with a simple s.LK>s.MK xU2

• First, learn how to SJC the s.MK in the first two hits of the combo.
  Press s.LK then IMMEDIATELY input :qcf::uf: (which is the 1st half of the ultra) then press s.MK
  with the same timing you would use to do the target combo. Ibuki should jump cancel as soon as
  the s.MK lands. What’s happening is while you are doing the target combo, your qcfuf motion is
  accepted and cancels the s.MK as it lands putting Ibuki into her super jump animation. What we
  want to do next is cancel the super jump animation and go straight into the ultra.

• Once you can consistently do s.LK> :qcf::uf:> s.MK (SJC a target combo) add a
  second :qcf::uf: + KKK before Ibuki leaves the ground to super jump with the same
  timing you would use to cancel the s.MK into something else. It’s like canceling a HP into
  an SRK except the HP is the super jump and the SRK is the second half of the ultra.
  Keep in mind that you need to keep your two qcfuf motions close together as you would
  with any super/ultra combo.

this works fine for me…thank you…

[shouri-dono]

oke peoples… what works for me with the target combo jump cancel dash is to use the negative edge on the final hk input. I have it working 8 out of 10 times so thats pretty nice.

lp, mp, down hk, press hk and hold, do the motion and release the hk… its simple but once you get the timing right its a breeze.

[MingoDynasty]

First you can only SJC out of some of her normals. When you far you can SJC out of sc.lk c.lp c.mp c.hp f.lk. And when your close you can SCJ out of s.mk s.hk s.lp s.hp. And I think you can SJC out of all her grounded target combos.

When you are trying to SJC into Ultra or a special move, hit db and then buffer the inputs of the move during the attack animation then hit up forward to SJC and press the inputs of the special move.

So for example:

1. s.hp > :db::qcf::qcf::uf: during s.hp > :lk::mk::hk:

2. :lp: > :mp: > :d::hk: > :hk: > :db::qcf::uf: during :hk: > :k:

Check out J wongs video and he’ll explain it http://www.gametrailers.com/video/ex...r-street/62755

This can’t possibly be right, unless that :db: input is absolutely necessary, because I must have tried this like at least 1000 times and the U2 only seems to connect randomly. I turned on input display in training mode and it’s definitely saying I’m inputting exactly :qcf::qcf::uf: :lk::mk::hk:

I dunno about anybody else, but I’ve had better success simply inputting :d::u::qcf::qcf: :lk::mk::hk: very very fast.

[OhDearAudrey]

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Trying to do SJC dash, what am i doing wrong?

[MingoDynasty]

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[OhDearAudrey]

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[MyBlasterRunsHot]

omg I’m finally doing it, first off if you need help with doing it check out Justin Wongs Ibuki walkthrough and look at the speed of cancel. Before you begin even trying the cancel practice learning the speed of the high jump, I would suggest that you try ibuki’s standing hard punk and cancel into a normal high jump after the first impact. keep doing that and get familiar with the speeds, then try to buffer an double q.circle input while you’re super jumping. It may be tough at first but learn the speeds and it will come to you.

[System_1]

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Trying to do SJC dash, what am i doing wrong?

From the looks of it,you’re mashing roundhouse when you’re executing target combo 6.
It also looks like you’re trying to super jump cancel too early and your motions seem to be a little off.

[j0ns]

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Trying to do SJC dash, what am i doing wrong?

You’re not Super jumping, you’re doing TC and then buffering Kasumi. You need to Super jump cancel the HK frames into a Kasumi. After you see the second HK of the Target Combo hit, do :qcf::uf::hk:. Just make sure you buffer it slightly after the second HK hits.

[Spinning_Beat]

IMO the easiest SJC into U2 is C.MP.

I did it in a real match a few times online last night. It can be used to punish a poorly used Pinwheel from Juri too. Since C.MP -> neckbreaker is how I punish blocked pinwheels.

[System_1]

I figured it out guys.

You need to do the target combo and WAIT until you input s.HP before you even do the motions for the ultra. as soon as the hp is about to hit, do the QCF’s +kicks (ending with up-forward of course) as fast as you can. Just press HP, then do the ultra motions and hit kicks at the right time.

i’m getting it every time now that i am waiting. when you do it too soon you’ll just buffer a kazegiri.

Thanks!
This really helped, doing it a 100% now.

[MingoDynasty]

Has anybody tried doing like a 540ish for the SJC xx U2? Like gief’s ultra or something. I’m a pad player and I find it awkward to have to let go of the pad for a split second the same way stick players go into neutral and then do a tiger knee uf. Something like :qcf::uf::u::ub::l::db::qcf::uf: :lk::mk::hk: