Sirlin.net: "The Anti-Progress Attitude"

Ignores pages full of valid arguments, focuses on THIS post, proceeds to troll. Ban please.

Man there’s an easy cheap shot in there. Must… resist!

Redrapper was missing the point of the article. I’m not going to sit there and respond in detail to everything he said when he didn’t get the core argument that Sirlin was trying to make.

I don’t see anything wrong with condescending to idiots, of which there are many in this thread.

Hdr is one of the highest selling xbl/psn games ever to call it a failure is laughable

:rofl:

It’s competitive in it’s current state and fulfills nostalgia purposes.

In regards to the tournament / competitive scene it is

Because this was never a discussion to begin with and you are very selective in what to respond to or not because you can’t come up with a good counter-argument. I already said what I needed to say you just want to keep this going for your own ego.

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BAM!

you said some good shit, dude. I don’t think there should be any arguments after this. it is too strong!

David Sirlin is a major douche cunt. I have always hated this prick and he is a major scrub when it comes to 3S.
I wouldn’t take his 3S hate into too much account, because he is a sore bitch scrub at 3S who never could win or understand the game.

There is a lot of idiots in here, mostly the ones who seem to be against 3S. All of a sudden, 3S is popular again and the sf3 haters can not stand that so they try to bring the game down.

Joe Condor, Pootnannies, and the these types of players/members KNOW 3S. I can tell, because I know it. Fuck, I play every day and have played sf3 since New Generation at the arcades.

yes, 3s has a SLIGHT imbalance to it. It is only slight though.

I play with Necro, and I have reached a point with him that I can fight players evenly that are just as good as me who pick Chun, Ken, Yun, Mak, Dud, Yang, Urien, etc.

These idiots that bitch about the game being unbalanced are the same idiots
who-
A- Don’t play 3S at all or barely have
B- Have problems with its popularity and want it to die
C- Just completely suck at the game/Don’t "get it"
D- Very same players who pick HIGHER TIER characters to try to get easy win BUT lose to better players like myself with a “low tier” character

I have seen all this a million times before. The same lame arguments… someone supposedly “note-worthy” in the fighting game community that disses on it…the same scrubs and haters that troll 3S hard just because…well they are trolls and haters

So yeah, keep on thinking 3S is all about Yun/Ken/Chun and no one else can win, because you are sadly mistaken. Fuck EVO and its sorry players. I played GGPO for last year against some insanely incredible players that DON’T use those three, BUT they DO rape those three all the time.

you new generations are sad, you need it all handed to you without doing any work to achieve it, then bitch because its either because the other person had a “god tier” character, the person doesn’t have a life and plays 3s all the time, their controller/etc is broke and so on. If not that, then rage quitting is next option.

STFU and actually learn the game with who you WANT to play with, or just STFU PERIOD.

Still waiting for someone to explain to me why he choose the re-release of Third Strike and the people who wanted it as an example for his antiprogress and antibalancing tirade.

No game is balanced. Starcraft is the most bullshit excuse for “balance” to ever occur. Terran is the best race in that game. Marine Medic push into science vessels vs Zerg. The only way you lose is if your opponent severely fucks up your push timing and somehow manages to fuck up your science vessels. Which at anything other than high level play is extremely difficult to do. Terran vs Protoss becomes an absolute joke if the Protoss doesn’t get an advantage before the 2nd or 3rd factory is up.

I play Terran, it’s really simple. 3S is balanced outside of Sean and Twelve. If it wasn’t guys like Pierrot wouldnt absolutely shit on Chuns and Yuns. same for PinoAB7’s/Sugiyamas etc etc etc those “low tiers” just have a different way to go about things but they still can get the job done. David Sirlin is a dumbass too. He pretends like ST is a pinnacle of fighting games when in reality its even worse balanced than 3rd Strike and by a Huge margin.

I think I’ve explained it to you at least twice. Because he read the 1up game review and the discussion of why they didn’t change it caught his interest. Having had his attention drawn to the subject, he decided to put a post about up in his blog. Without the 3S release or the Haunts review, there wouldn’t have been any occasion (or convenient example) for the discussion.

damn! i was hoping my last post would be right before this thread got closed! i was sure that “fuck you faggot” was gonna get it done, so i posted hoping it would be the last post, and an epic conclusion to this ridiculous thread. oh well, i’ll try again in a few minutes.

I am excited for kof13 though. It looks good! Haven’t played a kof since like 2002/2003.

Some of you seem to believe that Sirlin and I share the exact same viewpoint on this. If you’ll look at what I’ve posted in this thread, almost all of it has been clarifying Sirlin’s point to those who have misread it. I’ve barely argued *for *Sirlin at all, and I’ve acknowledged some healthy counterpoints to his stance. So why are you expecting me to respond to all criticisms of Sirlin’s article? I’m not Sirlin. Believe it or not, I started the thread because I was interested in reading some reasons why Sirlin might not be entirely correct.

As for you wanting this thread to be closed, I don’t get it. Is someone forcing you to keep coming back to the thread? You need a mod for it to be closed so you don’t have to deal with it anymore?

So are ST and 3S really, especially outside Japan. I know there’s still a group that plays it hardcore and competitively, but its a small, essentially closed group. They have about as much current impact on the general scene as HDR does.

Probably because 3SO was newsworthy?

glad to hear it man, it’s an awesome game, AND ( i can’t resist) the console version is getting a great RE-BALANCE! Progress! lolololol at this thread

Don’t diss Sirlin and then imitate his article in the same post:rofl:…

Sirlin needs to elaborate more on his point(the title of article) and less on the third strike community… it really needs a part two imo… it’s unfinished…

I love Super Turbo and all, but based on a tier list, isn’t ST/HDR in the same damn boat… that was a perfectly opportune moment…

I don’t give a damn who he is throwing under the bus, but his article just lost focus…

This actually isn’t what he said at all, but this IS a great example of a strawman argument.